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Old 01-26-2013, 04:00 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I keep reading how Toronto "fucked up the Lowry situation". I is frustrating to read because it leads me to believe you are mostly sheep...you read a comment, and you follow it blindly without ANY thought.

Toronto had a starting PG. Calderon. They shit in his mouth when they traded for a new guy and announced he had the keys to the bus before even stepping on the court. I'm sorry, how exactly was Lowry fucked over in this scenario?? He wasn't. And what happened next? Toronto under performed while Lowry alienated himself from the team by not following the teams offensive or defensive concepts.

Then Lowry got hurt. Badly. And missed a lot of time. So the other guy started and the team won. Lowry came back rusty and played from the bench, as ANY player coming off injury not named lebron or kobe do. and Guess what happened then??? He got hurt again, badly.

So now he's coming off an attitude adjustment, a tricep, then a pretty bad ankle sprain. Calderon has the team winning more, and Lowry is starting to slowly get his injuries on track and he's playing off the bench, again, like he should be as a guy that is clearly hurt.

Yet you monkeys are all running around making this into some drama, when really, it's just how shit goes. NOT TO MENTION Calderon is still openly on the block and says nothing. WTF do you people want?

The only thing that fucked up Lowry's position is his early attitude, and two very big bouts of shitty luck.

So please, pretty please with sugar on top, STOP the non-sense.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:04 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I just dont see it is all. Nobody hates Lowry, even us guys that like Calderon like him, I felt like shit when he got hurt....but sorry, you don't tear an ankle and then saunter back to the starting role on a bum wheel, while the team is playing well.

If things go as planned, he will have the spot he want soon enough.
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I just dont see it is all. Nobody hates Lowry, even us guys that like Calderon like him, I felt like shit when he got hurt....but sorry, you don't tear an ankle and then saunter back to the starting role on a bum wheel, while the team is playing well.

If things go as planned, he will have the spot he want soon enough.
and i'm fine with that. problem is guys who like jose want lowry gone and shit on him like he's a player of anderson's level but slightly better. that's where the wrong is. a healthy lowry is >>>>>>>>>> than Calderon right now, and 4 years from now
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oh i dont know about that. I think he can be, but he has a lot to learn.
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a healthy lowry is >>>>>>>>>> than Calderon right now, and 4 years from now
Easily, don't care what some try to say. To me it's not even close.
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oh i dont know about that. I think he can be, but he has a lot to learn.
let's say jose is better offensively.. (I don't even believe this but let's say he is cause this is the facet most debatable)

the difference in defensive ability, especially in such a crucial position like pg, between lowry and jose, is big enough to say that lowry is greater as a player than jose. and that's not even considering his rebounding ability, and saying jose is better offensively when he's much much much slower than lowry.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:23 PM   #87 (permalink)
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funny, the raptor players say Calderon in the glue on defensive rotations and is basically the floor captain....I guess you guys see stuff they don't, thats cool.

physically Calderon isnt lowry, but upstairs, Lowry aint calderon.

whatever though, JC will be gone soon enough, Lowry will start.
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let's say jose is better offensively.. (I don't even believe this but let's say he is cause this is the facet most debatable)

the difference in defensive ability, especially in such a crucial position like pg, between lowry and jose, is big enough to say that lowry is greater as a player than jose. and that's not even considering his rebounding ability, and saying jose is better offensively when he's much much much slower than lowry.
Scorer: Lowry >>>Calderon
Defense: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Rebounder: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Aggression: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Toughness: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Passing: Lowry<Calderon
Quickness: Lowry>>>>>Calderon
FTA: Lowry>>>>Calderon
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:28 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Scorer: Lowry >>>Calderon
Defense: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Rebounder: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Aggression: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Toughness: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Passing: Lowry<Calderon
Quickness: Lowry>>>>>Calderon
FTA: Lowry>>>>Calderon
Lool I like Lowery more than Calderon but this is biased as hell.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:32 PM   #90 (permalink)
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oh Blaze....pay no mind to that nonsense. Its more for comic relief than anything.
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oh Blaze....pay no mind to that nonsense. Its more for comic relief than anything.
Haa, look who's talking.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:40 PM   #92 (permalink)
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really?

because to be honest, it isnt even a secret that Calderon's mates have praised what he means to them on the floor, if these COMPLETELY MADE up idea's of yours were so true, why do none of these guys say that about Lowry.

They talk about his attitude, and his competitive nature.

Dude, please, you got nothing.
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really?

because to be honest, it isnt even a secret that Calderon's mates have praised what he means to them on the floor, if these COMPLETELY MADE up idea's of yours were so true, why do none of these guys say that about Lowry.

They talk about his attitude, and his competitive nature.

Dude, please, you got nothing.
Whatever you say jackle. Lowry is by far the more talented player, you want to disagree go ahead, not surprising really. But this isn't worth arguing about because neither of us will change our minds on these two. And Anderson praised him a week ago in an interview but i'm guessing you'll shrug that off by saying he doesn't count because he's a bench scrub. Whatever!
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nope saw it and agreed with him.

you dont understand what Im saying so whatever its good.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:57 PM   #95 (permalink)
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F#%k this! If they don't move Jose & or Bargs. This team has absolutely lost it's direction.

Again I do not want a guy here who has Plantar fasciitis period.
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Easily, don't care what some try to say. To me it's not even close.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:02 PM   #97 (permalink)
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nope saw it and agreed with him.

you dont understand what Im saying so whatever its good.
Judge, it's a lost case, really. I just want the team to win, but people here think it's Lowry vs. Jose crap.
Lowry might be the better 1 on 1 player, but all the Lowry-sheep here can't see that our offence isn't going anywhere when Lowry is running the floor.
This is why DC won't start him.
At the beginning of the season Lowry made some easy layups and was attacking the rim, but now those shots just won't fall, and passing isn't really his forte to say it nicely.
And yes, you are right. The management fucked it up by saying he is our PG of the future, while Jose, is still here. I don't see how it makes Jose a shitty person like some say.
He had a chip on his shoulder and he surprised us all by leading the team to 14-13 while Lowry led us to 2-13 as a starter.
If people here think Lowry is our savior they are just being delusional.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:08 PM   #98 (permalink)
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The team's problems are at the SF position, lack of all star talent, and the inexperience of our front court.

Moving either Jose or Lowry won't make much of a difference, unless they bring back solutions to the team's real problems.

I agee that one (or both) will eventually move on, but the decision should be made on contract considerations, this is a salary capped league after all.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:09 PM   #99 (permalink)
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I must say, well played Calderon. This guy knows how to play the game AND the business. He knows he's gonna get traded and Lowry will get the starting job. He played lousy as a back up...knowing that even if he plays bad...they'll blame the starters. Then, he gets the time to shine (Lowry's injury)...that's when he played great. Put him off the bench and he won't play like he is playing now...making Lowry look bad. Again, well played Calderon.
I respect the members of the forum, but this comment is just stupid.
You are blaming Jose for playing hard?! What did you expect? The management brought a PG via trade, and without hesitation they announced that he is the PG of the future, so of course Jose has something to prove. Again, I respect you as a member and a fan, but this comment of yours just made you look ridiculous.
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