BC's Best and Worst Moves in Toronto
Old 11-11-2008, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Agree or disagree with Robert Seagal from the Bleacher Report?

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The following is a run-down of Bryan Colangelo's best/worst moves as the Raptors GM. Due to Jamario Moon being an obvious Sam Mitchell suggestion, I'm going to credit that to Sam.

Best Moves

1.Trading Rafael Araujo for Kris Humphries
2. Signing Anthony Parker
3. Carlos Delfino for Two Second Round Picks
4. Hopla effect
5. Trading Charlie Villanueva for TJ Ford
6. Trading Matt Bonner and Eric Williams for Rasho Nesterovic
7. TJ Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, Maceo Baston, and 17th overall pick for Jermaine O’Neal

The Mistakes

1. Keeping Sam Mitchell
2. Failing to trade Calderon to Address Wing position
3. Jorge Garbajosa Mess
4. Jason Kapono signing for the Full MLE
5. Reactionary Management
6. Bargnani with the First Overall Pick in the 2006 NBA Draft
7. A Colossal Scouting Blunder
Click the link below of a summary of all the mistakes & best moves.

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Old 11-11-2008, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, hold on, so he says dealing TJ et al was a good move, but then says keeping Calderon is a bad move? Don't get it.

The Jorge thing I don't think is on him and keeping Sam Mitchell? Really, that's a bad move. I'm also cautious with number 6 on that list.

I agree with 4 and 7 though.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Failing to trade Calderon to Address Wing position
I'm assuming that is for last year. That makes no sense this year. And with Me-J playing so well in Indiana, the move may have made sense.

Hind sight management is indeed 20/20.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmm... what's a collossal scouting blunder? Is that a single event or an assessment of our scouting organization?
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I'm inclined to think it's our scouting organization
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Click the link below of a summary of all the mistakes & best moves.

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*Not trading Calderon was a mistake?
*Garbo-not his fault he had that major injury
*Bargnani (1st pck) wasn't a great choice but at the time he was going to go top 3-4 and i don't call it a mistake

The only mistake i actually agree with is Kapono signed for too much (MLE)

-According to him trading T.J was a good deal and BC should have also dealt Jose for a wing player??So our PG would be Soloman/Ukic?
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Hmm... what's a collossal scouting blunder? Is that a single event or an assessment of our scouting organization?
Probably in reguards to Bargnani!
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think he's referring to jawai?
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Ok, hold on, so he says dealing TJ et al was a good move, but then says keeping Calderon is a bad move? Don't get it.The Jorge thing I don't think is on him and keeping Sam Mitchell? Really, that's a bad move. I'm also cautious with number 6 on that list.

I agree with 4 and 7 though.
I didn't get that either. Why would he trade both PG's. It pretty much shows that his guys is stupid.
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If the Raps traded Calderon for a wing player we would have kept TJ Ford, I think that's what he means.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't think taking Bargs #1 at all was a bad pick. It's still early in his career give him time he's going to be great
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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there's no question that picking Bargnani the right move to do. The real question is, knowing everything we know now, would Bryan still do it?
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Best move, Bringng in AP, Garbo in the first year.

Worst move-resigning Sam
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Trading Jose for whome?

Jose was making shits and giggles...traded him for which player who was good and made like 1.5 mill?

c'mon guys, get your heads out your asses.

we had to keep one, and we kept Jose.

bad deals was JK, a bit over-paid, but not too much really...wasnt enough to handicap us at all.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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His best move was getting himself into an ideal situation to come into as a GM with low expectations and potential high reward.

His worst move will be staying in Toronto too long.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Bad moves, where to start ...

Catching the Euro wave by using the 1st pick on Bargnani in a soft year,

Villenuava for Ford.

Why is Kris Humphries on still this team?

Why is Joey'practice'Graham on any NBA roster?

Mauricio Gehrardini

Jamario Moon

Failure to setup a propper scouting department

Head coach

signing any player from Maccabi Telaviv

doing nothing to aquire Josh Childress

Pandering the board of MLSE and thoroughly trying to whiten the team.


The construct of this current roster is a direct result of his short-sighted dealings.

Good moves ... white Torontonians are talking about a winter sport other than hockey
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Not big on the Euro Invasion eh mash?
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Failure to setup a propper scouting department

...... thoroughly trying to whiten the team.
So, if I'm reading you correctly.... your first move as GM would be to set up a scouting office in Sri Lanka? Is that it?
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Best moves:

-CV- T.J Ford trade
-Haffa-Hump trade
-Delfino trade
-AP signing
-Extending CB4
-T.J-JO trade
-Calderon signing
-Bringing in Garbo (first season)
-Rasho



Wost moves:

-AB pick was questionable
-Over paying JK
-Not keeping Delfino
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So, if I'm reading you correctly.... your first move as GM would be to set up a scouting office in Sri Lanka? Is that it?
No, you are not.

If the "whiten" comment is burning your ass ... I dont cater to EMO

The Raps lack skilled athletic players on the wing, and it is a weekness that has been and will be exploited all season.

nameme any euro player that can match any 3rd tier african american wing player.

Sri Lanka, wow, Why not Boptswana?
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