BC Talks about his 2012 Draft Screwup - Page 2
Old 11-15-2012, 02:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I disagree, I'd rather stay away from guys that rate poorly mentally. History is not kind to these players and even this draft, look at royce white (assuming that's the guy he's referring to) - it doesn't look great.

I wanted drummond, but I thought he'll be a long term project, I don't think anybody thought he'll be this good in his first season and he was definitely redundant with JV. It may very well turn out to be a major mistake, but I can't blame a GM for making it - it's like drafting oden before durant.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Passing on Drummond, I will always maintain was the right call.
Given the lack of TRUE C's in the league and Drummond's size I'd be curious to hear why.....

The only thing that would have kept me from drafting Drummond would have been if he committed a double-homicide the night before the draft.

The kid wasn't some obscure giant like Podkolzine or Ramos. This was a guy who played in the NCAA for a big-time college program.


Also.... I found BC's quote about "not having the right mental make-up" particularly amusing given his man-crush on Bargs.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I think he's talking about Drummond and Lamb. I agree with BC to an extent in that drafting talent over maturity annually can net you a core that shows flashes but never puts it together (early 2000s Clippers, present Kings). Drummond seems like a good kid, though. And the potential of him and Val wreaking havoc in the paint would have been too enticing for me to pass up.

That said, I'm digging Ross. Anybody else notice how quick he is running shooters off the line and reacting to their first step? Quick feet, quick hands. He has tools be an elite defender, with a jumper. That's good value at 8, even if he doesn't develop much of a slashing game.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If only we got Barnes Our SF problems would be solved also! We would have every position settled easily and getting prepared for the future.
I doubt that. If SF position was covered, someone would find another loophole.

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I think he's talking about Drummond and Lamb. I agree with BC to an extent in that drafting talent over maturity annually can net you a core that shows flashes but never puts it together (early 2000s Clippers, present Kings). Drummond seems like a good kid, though. And the potential of him and Val wreaking havoc in the paint would have been too enticing for me to pass up.

That said, I'm digging Ross. Anybody else notice how quick he is running shooters off the line and reacting to their first step? Quick feet, quick hands. He has tools be an elite defender, with a jumper. That's good value at 8, even if he doesn't develop much of a slashing game.
Wasn't Lamb taken before it was Raps' turn?

EDIT: My bad. Lamb was 12th pick. Sorry

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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He is not talking about Lamb, it's 100% about Drummond.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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He is not talking about Lamb, it's 100% about Drummond.
He's talking about two players, no? Maybe not.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Funny how some people hate on BC for this... I like that he put together a great group of guys. Look at teams like Sacremento... that is something he is trying to avoid.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
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He's talking about two players, no? Maybe not.
yep pretty sure it's 2 players.

he gives 2 reasons for 1 player and 1 reason for the other?
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:20 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Talk about a draft screwup:

Takes a player No.1, and claims he is the Franchise Center for the Future to compliment our current All-Star Power-Forward.

A few years later, things don't work out, All-Star Power Forward is fed up and leaves team, and the GM claims he is former No. 1 pick is a natural power forward.

Six years later, things still don't work out, and now the former no. 1 pick is practicing the small forward position at practice:

"@WolstatSun: Raptors tried Bargnani at the three today and could try it in a game due to Fields, Anderson injuries but know he can't guard true threes"

As much you try and disguise him, a dud is a dud!
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:21 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Talk about a draft screwup:

Takes a player No.1, and claims he is the Franchise Center for the Future to compliment our current All-Star Power-Forward.

A few years later, things don't work out, All-Star Power Forward is fed up and leaves team, and the GM claims he is former No. 1 pick is a natural power forward.

Six years later, things still don't work out, and now the former no. 1 pick is practicing the small forward position at practice:

"@WolstatSun: Raptors tried Bargnani at the three today and could try it in a game due to Fields, Anderson injuries but know he can't guard true threes"

As much you try and disguise him, a dud is a dud!
That's actually a good idea imo.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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lol. the three? sigh >.>
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Talk about a draft screwup:

Takes a player No.1, and claims he is the Franchise Center for the Future to compliment our current All-Star Power-Forward.

A few years later, things don't work out, All-Star Power Forward is fed up and leaves team, and the GM claims he is former No. 1 pick is a natural power forward.

Six years later, things still don't work out, and now the former no. 1 pick is practicing the small forward position at practice:

"@WolstatSun: Raptors tried Bargnani at the three today and could try it in a game due to Fields, Anderson injuries but know he can't guard true threes"

As much you try and disguise him, a dud is a dud!
Good lord.... trying him at the 3?

I cringed.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:25 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I dont think that the 2nd player would be lamb because he clearly said it himeslf, he does not want to draft Lamb and you can see why he dropped. Many ppl had us going for Drummond as BPA, and Ross was a late lottery team. Now you be the GM we already have a ton of bigmen on this team. Bargnani, JV, Gray, Davis and Amir why add another one and create more of a logjam though everyone would say that Drummond and JV would be the new twin towers if they fully develop. Despite him being the BPA and making 1 bigmen available, it just didnt make sense to draft another bigmen in 3 consecutive years. Many people say that Ross is a much better developed player than DD imo, and with DDs play this year he may switch over to SF. With the minimal minutes that Ross has gotten so far he's not that bad of a pick imo. Barnes is also a work in progress as well and is starting out slow in GS


However I would have like to draft Drummond, and possibly trade Davis + someone for a SF would be ideal
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:32 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Bargnani at the 3 is laughable. I think Casey is just doing everything in his power to avoid playing Ross for some reason. You already have 3 SFs, and Bargnani doesnt even look quick enough to guard nor get by good 4's, against 3s he'd look even worse. Derrick Favors ate his lunch.
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terrence ross, try him at 3 for a game atleast.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:34 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Bargnani at the 3 is laughable. I think Casey is just doing everything in his power to avoid playing Ross for some reason. You already have 3 SFs, and Bargnani doesnt even look quick enough to guard nor get by good 4's, against 3s he'd look even worse. Derrick Favors ate his lunch.
No one thought it was laughable when it was JO at C, Bosh at PF and Bargnani at SF, and we all know how that failed epicly.

May never know the reason that Ross and Davis havent received much playing time could be because a trade is about to brew up
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm guessing he's talking about the same prospect (Drummond) for both, and that the reason he didn't "fit" is his mental make-up. It would make no sense if we passed on a top 5 talent solely because of roster fit, because Ross doesn't fill this team's needs either
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:04 PM   #38 (permalink)
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because Ross doesn't fill this team's needs either
Sure he does, a lot more than Drummond that's for sure. At this point it's about developing him. But what he brings to the table (Shooting, Defense) is exactly what we needed.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:07 PM   #39 (permalink)
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drummond could've been an excellent trade piece.. or could have allowed us some more flexibility in deciding who from the front court we should trade. When it comes to the draft you should always pick the player.
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also interesting that he would say this publicly.



colangelo was easily the most revealing of the 4 gms here.
I feel like Bryan had a few drinks before taking this interview.
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