BC interview on trade and summer league
Old 07-15-2010, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Good Interview.
Demar and Sonny look great in the summer league.
We have a good young athletic core that get to the net and a couple of good shooters in Bargnani and belli.

We need a solid play maker to play ahead of jack (yup i think jose is gone).

and the Cap flexibility in the years to come to go after players is gonna be nice.

Give him an extension.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Stern should help BC trade Jose. After all his buddy from the 90s screwed over the franchise
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Good Interview.
Demar and Sonny look great in the summer league.
We have a good young athletic core that get to the net and a couple of good shooters in Bargnani and belli.

We need a solid play maker to play ahead of jack (yup i think jose is gone).

and the Cap flexibility in the years to come to go after players is gonna be nice.

Give him an extension.
is that what he said
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't think he'd boost about himself for an extension
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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-Looked at things post-Bosh
-Talked about getting some flexibility and talked about things that were working and things that weren't working
-Hedo for whatever reason didn't pan out and rather than force the issue this was a better opportunity to move the contract on and bring in a talented player that fits in with what they're trying to do
- With so many talented young athletic talented players who are really showing here (Summer League) what they're capable of with speed, athleticism and scoring ability...Leanrdro fits right in.
- Knows him well, drafted him
- Grew up with each other in Phoenix, English is better than when he first came into the league, passionate about basketball and capable of scoring in bunches.
- Had a rough year last year...set back by his mom's death and had a wrist injury that they chose not to treat with surgery at first, but ultimately had to have it
- He's 100% healthy now, at the end of the year and playoffs he showed again what he was capable of doing
- Change of scenery will be good for him, he's coming in with a young group of guys and has a chance to make an immediate impact on the team
- A shorter term deal, again it was about creating some flexibility in the forseeable future and they will be able to be a player in the FA market
- One of the nicest young men in the league. Cares about winning
- Sonny and DeMar have created a buzz at the SL with their play
- DeMar has shown better shot creation, creating space and getting his shot off using an array of moves
- Sonny is a great athlete, capable of defending really well, but also scoring in a variety of ways
- Great to see them playing so well and playing off of each other
- The entire camaraderie of the team is encouraging and refreshing to see
- Ed has so much more there than what we've seen because of being off so long and he's out of basketball shape. Probably why he fell so far in the draft.
- Physically he needs to get stronger, but his interior passing, nose for the ball, shot blocking and protecting the rim are things they've talked about needing and he's provided that. As he gets in better shape he's going to be great and he's gotten better every day
- Bobby Brown has been great and made an argument for the 3rd string PG position if an opening becomes availabe
- A little chemistry with the young guys. A nice fine and he's being evaluated and they'll see where it goes.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i think Barbosa will like it here. we've a strong presence of Brazilian culture here =)
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i think Barbosa will like it here. we've a strong presence of Brazilian culture here =)
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Raptors need to develop an identity...

Now that Bosh is gone and Colangelo is developing some financial flexibility, I think it is important for the Raptors to develop a team identity, rather than an identity that revolves around an individual (McGrady, Carter, Bosh...). With Bosh as the "centrepiece", Colangelo seemed to be trying to fit pieces around the individual, rather than finding individuals to fit a team identity. Now, without having to try to fit pieces around Bosh, it sounds like Colangelo would like to build a new team identity around length, athleticism and speed for an up-tempo game. This could be described as the "3R" approach:

- protect the Rim
- Rebound
- Run

DeRozan, Weems, Barbosa, Davis and Johnson seem to fit that profile. Bargnani is a good big man for this approach too, since he can stretch the floor but also take men off the dribble. The Raptors now need to find an ideal point guard to orchestrate, a couple of more talented wings, and perhaps another athletic big who can protect the rim and rebound to round out the squad. If he can use his financial flexibility to get a top-flight point guard and fill in those other positions, this team could be interesting and good for an extended period of time. Time will also tell if Triano is the right coach for this style, but he certainly is saying all the right things.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Raptors need to develop an identity...

Now that Bosh is gone and Colangelo is developing some financial flexibility, I think it is important for the Raptors to develop a team identity, rather than an identity that revolves around an individual (McGrady, Carter, Bosh...). With Bosh as the "centrepiece", Colangelo seemed to be trying to fit pieces around the individual, rather than finding individuals to fit a team identity. Now, without having to try to fit pieces around Bosh, it sounds like Colangelo would like to build a new team identity around length, athleticism and speed for an up-tempo game. This could be described as the "3R" approach:

- protect the Rim
- Rebound
- Run

DeRozan, Weems, Barbosa, Davis and Johnson seem to fit that profile. Bargnani is a good big man for this approach too, since he can stretch the floor but also take men off the dribble. The Raptors now need to find an ideal point guard to orchestrate, a couple of more talented wings, and perhaps another athletic big who can protect the rim and rebound to round out the squad. If he can use his financial flexibility to get a top-flight point guard and fill in those other positions, this team could be interesting and good for an extended period of time. Time will also tell if Triano is the right coach for this style, but he certainly is saying all the right things.
I feel like Ive seen this before
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not sure if this is appropriate here, but what about Baron Davis? He's sucked in LA (but who wouldn't with that sad sack group). He's sick in an uptempo system. Clippers have cap space do they not? I'm sure they'd love to unload Baron. Toss them Jose and Evans. It's a fair deal no?
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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-Looked at things post-Bosh
-Talked about getting some flexibility and talked about things that were working and things that weren't working
-Hedo for whatever reason didn't pan out and rather than force the issue this was a better opportunity to move the contract on and bring in a talented player that fits in with what they're trying to do
- With so many talented young athletic talented players who are really showing here (Summer League) what they're capable of with speed, athleticism and scoring ability...Leanrdro fits right in.
- Knows him well, drafted him
- Grew up with each other in Phoenix, English is better than when he first came into the league, passionate about basketball and capable of scoring in bunches.
- Had a rough year last year...set back by his mom's death and had a wrist injury that they chose not to treat with surgery at first, but ultimately had to have it
- He's 100% healthy now, at the end of the year and playoffs he showed again what he was capable of doing
- Change of scenery will be good for him, he's coming in with a young group of guys and has a chance to make an immediate impact on the team
- A shorter term deal, again it was about creating some flexibility in the forseeable future and they will be able to be a player in the FA market
- One of the nicest young men in the league. Cares about winning
- Sonny and DeMar have created a buzz at the SL with their play
- DeMar has shown better shot creation, creating space and getting his shot off using an array of moves
- Sonny is a great athlete, capable of defending really well, but also scoring in a variety of ways
- Great to see them playing so well and playing off of each other
- The entire camaraderie of the team is encouraging and refreshing to see
- Ed has so much more there than what we've seen because of being off so long and he's out of basketball shape. Probably why he fell so far in the draft.
- Physically he needs to get stronger, but his interior passing, nose for the ball, shot blocking and protecting the rim are things they've talked about needing and he's provided that. As he gets in better shape he's going to be great and he's gotten better every day
- Bobby Brown has been great and made an argument for the 3rd string PG position if an opening becomes availabe
- A little chemistry with the young guys. A nice fine and he's being evaluated and they'll see where it goes.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks Acie.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I feel like Ive seen this before
If you mean the Suns, then I would say "bingo". I actually think that is the direction that Colangelo would like to head, but has been unable to with Bosh's style of play and need to "build around" Bosh to keep him engaged and happy.

What was remarkable about the Suns was how well they did even when their star big (Amare) was injured. What they lacked when Marion left was a long and effective defender and rebounder. I think the Raptors hope to develop good interior defence and rebounding with Johnson and Davis.

It will be interesting to see how well the Suns do this year without Amare. They might do better than many thought if Lopez gives them great interior defence and rebounding.

Of course, the Suns have always had Nash to orchestrate things, but Dragic looks like a keeper and maybe capable of running that system rather well too.

It might be a pipe dream, but if Colangelo could find a way to get Rubio while keeping some of his key pieces in place, Raptors fans might have some exciting years ahead.

In any case, I think that with the 3 Amigos in Miami, now is the time for teams like the Raptors to focus on building a long-term identity and competitiveness and not worry too much about championships in the near future.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks Acie

Can't wait to see Barbs, DD and Weems on the run
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't care about running & gunning.

I just hope that these guys (and the rest of the team) play some damn D.

I don't want to see us giving up 110 PPG again.
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I don't care about running & gunning.

I just hope that these guys (and the rest of the team) play some damn D.

I don't want to see us giving up 110 PPG again.
Demar and Sonny will be good perimeter players and quick in one on one situations for the D.

Amir will be a good rebounder.


But everyone else is a liability. We need a better PG for sure and we need a center who rebounds to compensate for bargnani's lack of awareness of where the balls goes after a shot.

We need different players on the team to address our defense.
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I don't care about running & gunning.

I just hope that these guys (and the rest of the team) play some damn D.

I don't want to see us giving up 110 PPG again.
I agree. A fast-paced team will give up more points than many other teams because there are more offensive possessions. So it is not just about how many points are given up, but how efficiently (e.g. points per possession). But running teams are terrible if they can't play defense and rebound, partly because it is harder to run when you are inbounding after a made FG.

So to make this effective, they need to be good defensively, and particularly good at protecting the rim and rebounding. In this day and age, there are many players who can break down almost any defender one-on-one with the dribble, so help defense and pick-and-roll defense in the paint are key.
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