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Old 06-09-2012, 01:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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to me rivers is third in the depth chart when it comes to perimeter scorers

1.beal
2.barnes
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4. mkg
5.waiters

obviously what seperates mkg is his worth ethic, ahtletic ability and to play defense like scottie pippen, but when it comes to scoring i got beal,barnes, and rivers ahead
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:55 AM   #22 (permalink)
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to me rivers is third in the depth chart when it comes to perimeter scorers

1.beal
2.barnes
3.rivers
4. mkg
5.waiters

obviously what seperates mkg is his worth ethic, ahtletic ability and to play defense like scottie pippen, but when it comes to scoring i got beal,barnes, and rivers ahead
MKG is probably going to be the better player though.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:42 AM   #24 (permalink)
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#8 just doesn't feel right. I would trade down OR trade for another pick, perhaps NOH's 10th overall?
Austin Rivers = Barbosa 2.0 ... which isn't bad at all (coming off the bench)

with respect to 'alpha male' status, the only way I see that happening is if he learns how to play the point and actually distribute the ball. Unfortunately, that department is a stretch.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:45 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I know it's old news but it angers me that we were just 1 loss away from having a shot at someone like Bradley Beal. He has a clean jump shot, attacks the rim, is aggressive on D and plays with a sort of 'edge' that Bargs and Derozan lack.
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:38 AM   #27 (permalink)
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In a few weeks? the draft is 19 days away!

So, like 2 days shy of a few weeks.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:39 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I like Rivers alot,he was the initial player i thought they should draft. He possess that all star mentality.

Contrary to popular belief on here, i think Austin could easily make the transition to playing Point Guard for the Raptors. Even if he isn't pass first all the time,he has the ability to create plays for teammates and score,while running the offense
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I like Rivers alot,he was the initial player i thought they should draft. He possess that all star mentality.

Contrary to popular belief on here, i think Austin could easily make the transition to playing Point Guard for the Raptors. Even if he isn't pass first all the time,he has the ability to create plays for teammates and score,while running the offense
Except for the part where he spent a whole season proving he couldn't.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:24 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Except for the part where he spent a whole season proving he couldn't.
Duke is very unique. Its the ultimate system for team baksetball,not for individual talents like the NBA is geared towards.

Guys like Duhon,Reddick had fantastic careers as PG's at Duke but it couldn't translate at the pro level. I think with Rivers it'll be opposite,so although he struggled in the team game at the college level he'll have success in the team game at the pro level because of his superb individual talent.

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Except for the part where he spent a whole season proving he couldn't.
People fall in love trying to convert scorers to PG.... very few can make that transition
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Duke is very unique. Its the ultimate system for team baksetball,not for individual talents like the NBA is geared towards.

Guys like Duhon,Reddick had fantastic careers as PG's at Duke but it couldn't translate at the pro level. I think with Rivers it'll be opposite,so although he struggled in the team game at the college level he'll have success in the team at the pro level because of his superb individual talent.
your logic defies reason. Because guys who had success failed, others that failed will have success?

It's not a probability that any draftee will be a stud, and Rivers has demonstrated many limitations that we as fans end up being frustrated with current NBA players for.
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your logic defies reason. Because guys who had success failed, others that failed will have success?

It's not a probability that any draftee will be a stud, and Rivers has demonstrated many limitations that we as fans end up being frustrated with current NBA players for.
I understand what you're saying and most will agree with you. Rivers has some maturing to do,phsyically and possibly even competitively. He's raw at the moment too in my opinion. I just think he has a lot of potential,high risk but high reward. I think his failures at the collegiate level were more about being in the wrong system,if he we're with UNC or UK for example I think we would've seen more of what he's capable of. Overall,he wasn't a number 1 prospect heading into College for no reason,they young man has talent.

You're right though..like I don't think Kemba Walker and Steph Curry are PG's but they play that position. I like them better as undersized shooting guards. I just think Rivers needs the ball in his hands and with more experience I think he'll become trustworthy

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One NBA assistant coach said he was surprised Austin Rivers didn’t work out at the NBA's predraft combine here Thursday. The East scout expects Rivers to be selected in the Nos. 10-20 range, but an NBA source told Yahoo! Sports that Rivers has a promise late in the draft lottery. The Portland Trail Blazers, Toronto Raptors, Houston Rockets, Cleveland Cavaliers, Phoenix Suns, Washington Wizards and New Orleans Hornets plan to work out Rivers.
Celtics coach Doc Rivers helping son Austin through NBA draft process - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:02 AM   #37 (permalink)
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i read that article earlier today, what i found interesting is taht doc river is sayign his son has grown up in a nba life style, and his game is more designed for the nba than college
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Duke is very unique. Its the ultimate system for team baksetball,not for individual talents like the NBA is geared towards.

Guys like Duhon,Reddick had fantastic careers as PG's at Duke but it couldn't translate at the pro level. I think with Rivers it'll be opposite,so although he struggled in the team game at the college level he'll have success in the team at the pro level because of his superb individual talent.
except that for most of the time he was on the court at Duke reddick didn't play PG
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:37 AM   #39 (permalink)
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To me, Rivers reminds me of Mayo. People thought about converting him to a PG all the time but it just doesn't work. Rivers has a lot less ball handling capabilities and court vision than JB.
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To me, Rivers reminds me of Mayo. People thought about converting him to a PG all the time but it just doesn't work. Rivers has a lot less ball handling capabilities and court vision than JB.
I don't think either have court vision but both have ballhandling.... I just think you're totally right about trying to convert scorers to PG.... I think it is understated how much playing the PG position at the highschool and collegiate level goes towards building the foundation for NBA-calibre PG skills.

I'd rather take a chance on guys that played the position like Wroten or Lillard, as opposed to Rivers that was more of a scoring guard at Duke, who have size and the ability to score but didn't look as out of place running an offense as Rivers did. Both Wroten and Lillard have limitations, but both have demonstrated PG skills.

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