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Old 01-22-2011, 11:49 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I think Bargs' problems stem from a lack of conditioning. It's the same way I felt about Jose a couple of seasons ago.

Jose has worked on his fitness level since then, and this year he's shown a lot of improvement. Previously he was getting exposed on defense when he was gassed.

I think the solution to Bargs' rebounding and defensive woes is simply a better fitness level. Limiting his minutes is another solution, though his endurance won't improve over the course of the season if Jay takes that route.

This offseason I'd like to hear that Bargs has been on an exercise bike every day rather than working out with the Italian team.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:56 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Then he should be a SF because he sucks as a PF. lol
Actually the style he plays is more or less a shooting guard position. The problem with that would be the smaller guys would be too quick for him.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:57 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I don't think Bargnani's problems are at all related to fitness. I think it is simply a matter of him not knowing how to defend well. He has no sense of how to defend more than one person or spot at a time.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:01 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Either way the coaching staff needs to get the message across to Bargnani. Whatever the hell they're doing its not working because I still see a lack of effort.
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Either way the coaching staff needs to get the message across to Bargnani. Whatever the hell they're doing its not working because I still see a lack of effort.
Who was guarding ANderson last night. Try pinning some of the blame on that person, He went off for over 20 points.
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Either way the coaching staff needs to get the message across to Bargnani. Whatever the hell they're doing its not working because I still see a lack of effort.
I see the same thing. My observation is that it's not because he doesn't care, it's because he's gassed. This is a problem that can be addressed.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Who was guarding ANderson last night. Try pinning some of the blame on that person, He went off for over 20 points.
Most of Ryan Anderson's points were in garbage time, though. It was Dwight Howard that won the game.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:22 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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nah it's the coach. Dumb Triano and friends think it was "best" to develop Andrea's post game when in reality he was most effective in his rookie year where he camped out at the 3pt line. Post moves don't mean shit without toughness and Andrea will never have that. Carl Landry, Glen Davis, even Kobe Bryant could play the center position better (offensively that is). I'm not even gonna touch on defense because the coaching staff doesn't know what they're doing most nights.

I say let Amir and Ed Davis develop a sort of one-two interior defense tango and have Andrea come off the bench to play against 2nd unit centers.

Triano really pisses me off, he doesn't know how to use talent. (Hello Turk! seems you were right when you said they didn't use you properly)

and to the people who say it's because "Howard makes everyone look better", you guys are wrong because all Dwight does from an offensive stand point that really makes everyone look better is he commands a double-team. We had that in Bosh last year....just sayin'...
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:12 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Howard OWNEDDDDDDDD Bosh WAYYYYYYYYYYY WORSE in the playoffs than what happened yesterday. (and if you watched, it wasn't even Bargnani guarding Howard) Howard used to be really dumb and happy go lucky, always joking around, but he seems to be treating the game more serious now and it shows.

Biggest mistake by management was keeping Bosh, if he was traded 1-4 years ago, we'd have a much better team and Barg's would be surrounded by better players.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:19 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Howard OWNEDDDDDDDD Bosh WAYYYYYYYYYYY WORSE in the playoffs than what happened yesterday. (and if you watched, it wasn't even Bargnani guarding Howard) Howard used to be really dumb and happy go lucky, always joking around, but he seems to be treating the game more serious now and it shows.

Biggest mistake by management was keeping Bosh, if he was traded 1-4 years ago, we'd have a much better team and Barg's would be surrounded by better players.
Yes but Bargs would stuck as much as he does now.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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its fine if he is a sucky defender but he needs to rebound the damn ball. he has no effort in rebounding. coach should sit him 30 secs for every board he is short of 10. we stink anyways so sitting him and killing our offense for 1 play wouldn't mean anything.
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Old 01-22-2011, 06:29 PM   #53 (permalink)
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i repeat trade him now before trade deadline and bring back some niece piece + 1 first round + 1 expiring.

this will be better for our futur.
how many times do you thing the other youngs in the team can stand aside him and play then they know he will nine of ten times let everybody go trough him.
even if he produce 20pts per game, i rather have one big fellow with a 15pts/8rd than barg who don't care, who can say not a big deal, or some thing else like that.


trade Bargs ! trade Bargs !
i'm sure houston will be happy to have him so let's go BC !
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Y'all wish Bosh is still playing for the Raptors, eh?
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Y'all wish Bosh is still playing for the Raptors, eh?
not at all... dude was overhyped... just like TorRaptor said....
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:36 AM   #56 (permalink)
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We need Bargs to win.

It's a simple truth. The only game we've won without him has been a complete shocker for everyone against the Mavs (playing without Dirk).

Every other win we've had, he's played well. If we trade him, we're pretty much forfeiting the rest of the season (I know some people will call for this), which is not a good way to increase ticket sales and revenue.

He's our best player. That's a fact. He sucks compared to other centers, but none of the players in our starting line up are good. That's why we have a 13-31 record.
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