Bargnani at 50 or Roy at 80?

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Andrea Bargnani at 50 million 33 52.38%
Brandon Roy at 80 million 30 47.62%
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats up guys

Just hearing that Brandon Roy was going to sign a 5-year 80 million dollar contract I was just curious to know which one of these two guys you would rather have for the money they will make.

Would you rather have

Andrea Bargnani at 50 million
or Brandon Roy at 80 million

Some think Roy is and will always be the better player, and some believe that Andrea just took a little extra time to develop and will be the better player when all is said and done. What do you think?

I would go for Bargnani because he is such a unique find and skillset, and also with the $6 million you save every year you can add a very good player to your team, for example Bargnani and Jack cost less than Roy himself.

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Roy hands down. Most teams that win have that ball handler capable of dominating the game, carrying their team on his back and Roy is that player. As much as I like Bargnani..he is a complimentary player whereas Roy can be the Lebron, Kobe or Wade of his team. I'm not saying you dont' need to put good pieces around Roy or that all championship teams have had a player like him, but I think he'll win more games for you and take you farther into the playoffs than Bargnani ever will.
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Easy choice. Roy is in a different class. Quality comes expensive.
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Wow. People who voted for Bargnani need to quit watching basketball.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That's tough man. I think Roy at $16M/yr is going to look extremely bad when the new CBA comes out...Roy isn't a D-Wade or LBJ but hey, if Portland didn't pay it someone else would have. The inking of Roy is the safer move. You know what you're getting from him. People can't honestly say they know for certain that Bargnani is going to be a star. He had a nice second half but that's not enough time to make a call on him. If Colangelo is right he looks like a genius, if he's wrong he looks like a dumb ass. I've learned not to bet against him though.

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Wow. People who voted for Bargnani need to quit watching basketball.
WOW, we need to stop watching basketball because we have an opinion, that makes sense

he might be better than andrea. but, not 6 million dollars better and to the guy who said he's the lebron, kobe or wade of a team is exttremely wrong.

Plus, Big Man with andrea's soft touch and shooting range that are actually good are WAY HARDER to find and get then an all-star SG.

Demar Derozan will probably be an all-star shooting guard before his rookie contract is over and he's not going to go and ask for 16mill/year as an extension of 5 years.

hm.. big man like andrea as far as i know there is maybe 3 or 4 Bargs, Nowitzki, maybe Okur, Bill Laimbeer(retired), am i missing someone? there have been very few like these in the HISTORY of the NBA.


SG's that are all stars Dwayne Wade, Rip Hamilton, Brandon Roy, Kobe, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson, Allen Iverson, T-Mac, and so many more. without going outside of like the last 4 years.

If you can find a big man like andrea you're really lucky, to find a shooting guard like brandon roy you just wait and there is bound for one to land right on your doorstep.
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Ask me after this season. I'd like to say Andrea but let's see him start for a full season and see if he improves even more. If he does then i'd say him, more bang for the buck and it's more difficult to find someone of his size & skills.
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Right now, only someone that hasnt seen Roy play enough would choose Bargs over him. He is special.
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haha Roy did just want a better contract than Bargs

I voted Bargs because right now, Roy may have hit his ceiling and Bargs can still grow.
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i picked Bargs at 50.
Is Roy an amazing young talent? sure he is, but is he worth a Max contract so early in his career? i dont think so, and i dont think he's worth 16+ a season either.
When D12 was locked up to that max contract last season, it was a no brainer. he's the best Center in the game. Roy isnt close to being the best at his position, I dont even think he's top 10.
If you look at his career so far, his numbers are nice... 20/5/5.
but is that worth a Max extension? is that worth 16 million+?
Portland is now paving the way for money issues in the future and all of these young prospects they have now may need to find a new home in a few years because they just wont have the cash to keep them.
dont get me wrong, i love the kid's game but i think the better (and safer) signing is Bargs for 50.
19/6 (since Jan 1st), while playing the most difficult position on the court, less minutes than Roy, with less plays run for him, and (most importantly) not being the focal point in offense is very impressive.
in the long run, the Bargs signing is so much better than mxing out Roy.
i just dont think he's worth the max right now.
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Right now at SG, its Kobe, Wade and him. He is not that far from the first two. Probably one of the most underrated stars in the league.
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Right now at SG, its Kobe, Wade and him. He is not that far from the first two. Probably one of the most underrated stars in the league.


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Oh really, who do you consider better than him? Like I said you people havent watched Portland play enough.
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An even better question should be, would you rather have Hedo at our 3 spot plus Andrea Bargnani for a combined 20Mil/yr or have Roy @ 16Mil/yr.
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Oh really, who do you consider better than him? Like I said you people havent watched Portland play enough.
Kevin Martin, Joe Johnson and Paul Pierce(he plays SF right now but he;s play SG for most of his career) are all on Roy's level. Then you have up and comers like Gay and Mayo who could be there this year. Finally you have a guy like T-Mac, who is claiming he's going to be back to his scoring title form this season. With Ron Artest gone and Yao out, T-Mac is going to dominate the ball. All he needs to do is stay healthy.

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An even better question should be, would you rather have Hedo at our 3 spot plus Andrea Bargnani for a combined 20Mil/yr or have Roy @ 16Mil/yr.
Why go there? Why not just ask would you rather have the Raptors roster or the Blazers roster if you want to take it into that territory?
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I love Brandon Roy and thought he should have been the first pick in that class in which AB was first, LeMarcus Aldridge was second then Adam Morrison, then Tyrus Thomas and Sheldon Williams, then Roy. I don't think he is worth a max deal at this point, but as has been stated, the Blazers are setting themselves up to be in cap trouble for many years. I picked Bargs because i agree that talented big men are much harder to find than a SG. Bargs hedo and DD together cost less than BR at this point.. i like our lineup..
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I love Brandon Roy and thought he should have been the first pick in that class in which AB was first, LeMarcus Aldridge was second then Adam Morrison, then Tyrus Thomas and Sheldon Williams, then Roy. I don't think he is worth a max deal at this point, but as has been stated, the Blazers are setting themselves up to be in cap trouble for many years. I picked Bargs because i agree that talented big men are much harder to find than a SG. Bargs hedo and DD together cost less than BR at this point.. i like our lineup..
No they don't. Bargnani and Turkoglu both got $50M deals. Throw in another $10M for DeRozan.
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haha Roy did just want a better contract than Bargs

I voted Bargs because right now, Roy may have hit his ceiling .
What exactly do you base that on??

Oh and people comparing Rip and Tmac to Roy are way off. Roy is already a very special player and is just getting better.
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Oh really, who do you consider better than him? Like I said you people havent watched Portland play enough.
i watched them play too much last season... they were actually one of my favorite teams to watch.
I know i'll get flak for this, but i think Roy is overatted. he'll be invisable for a period of time, and then explode for 2 or 3 straight buckets.... then go back to being invisable, only to pop up for another few buckets. i guess thats due to the fact that their are alot of weapons on the team, but still.
in some cases, he'd try too hard to take over the game, because he probably feels as if he has to. and this would usually hurt the team rather than help.

its funny that people were dumping on Granger being overrated (in another thread), yet Granger puts up better numbers statistically both in offense and defense, AND he plays less minutes, AND shoots a better %.
i'm sure someone's arguement will say stats dont mean shit.... whatever... thats pretty hard to ignore.

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i picked Bargs at 50.
Is Roy an amazing young talent? sure he is, but is he worth a Max contract so early in his career? i dont think so, and i dont think he's worth 16+ a season either.
When D12 was locked up to that max contract last season, it was a no brainer. he's the best Center in the game. Roy isnt close to being the best at his position, I dont even think he's top 10.
If you look at his career so far, his numbers are nice... 20/5/5.
but is that worth a Max extension? is that worth 16 million+?
Portland is now paving the way for money issues in the future and all of these young prospects they have now may need to find a new home in a few years because they just wont have the cash to keep them.
dont get me wrong, i love the kid's game but i think the better (and safer) signing is Bargs for 50.
19/6 (since Jan 1st), while playing the most difficult position on the court, less minutes than Roy, with less plays run for him, and (most importantly) not being the focal point in offense is very impressive.
in the long run, the Bargs signing is so much better than mxing out Roy.
i just dont think he's worth the max right now.
You may watch the raptors.. and some portland highlights but you have no idea how good Roy is. NOT TOP 10 SG?! LMFAO only 2 are better than him in the world, the man leads a team with mediocre talent around him to 50+ wins, in the western conference. He wants the max contract.. what ya gonna do say no?!?! Any 2010 team would bend over for this guy, and to be honest hes more of a max contract guy than bosh. There numbers add out to about the same, but when it comes down to it he leads your team deep into games, unlike Bosh whos probally hit 1 game winning shot in his whole career.
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