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jeffb 09-24-2009 02:55 PM

Atlantic Division roundtable predictions
 
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Dino Nation (James Borbath):
The Atlantic is not as strong as it seems clear New Jersey and Philly have
taken a step backwards. While both the Knicks and Boston are still pretty
much the same. Meaning that Boston will still be good and the Knicks will
be a question mark as always. Boston will always be a tough team to play
for the Raptors. The other 3 teams all are teams the Raptors should (if
they have any ideas of being a home playoff team) be 3-1 or 4-0. Philly
would have been tough had they re-signed Andre Miller. But given Eddie
Jordan and his system needs solid point guard play which they would have
had in Miller. Other things of note in the division for me, Wallace on the Celtics
should fit well and how will Devin Harris do with Courtney Lee instead of
V.C? Here is how I would rank the Atlantic at this early stage of the
game.

Boston
Toronto
Philly
New York
New Jersey

Only Boston and Toronto in the playoffs. That is how the Dino Blogger sees
it. Subject to change given we have not even seen a pre-season game yet.
im Alive!!

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RaptorBlog (Scott Carefoot)
Is this a trick question? The Celtics are still the team to beat in the Atlantic -- with or without K.G. The Nets and Knicks are almost certain to jockey for fourth and fifth place in the division, which means the Raptors will probably be battling for position with the Sixers. If Elton Brand can rebound to 90% of his former prime and if the Sixers' youth (Young and Speights) continue to blossom, then Philly should be able to at least match last season's 41-win total and the Raptors will probably require at least a 10-win improvement over last season in order to finish a distant second place in the Atlantic.
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The Alt Raps Blog (Scott)
I believe the Atlantic will be very similar to what it was last season: a runaway leader followed by a tight race. It's not a stretch to think, in the conference, the race for 5-8 will be tight and it wouldn't shock me to see those spots full of Atlantic teams. Obviously the Celtics will give everybody fits, but positionally I think the Nets could give the Raptors fits. Sure, Vince brought the pain with every visit, but he has never been a one man wrecking crew. Even in his absence, look for the Raptors to buckle.
AltRaps Blog

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RaptorTalk (Walter Dubowec)
The Atlantic Division will be anything but tough. On balance, the Atlanic is weaker than it was last season – which isn’t saying much. The good news is that Toronto is the only divisional team to improve in the off-season. I expect between 45 to 50 wins and a solid second place finish in the Atlantic.

While I expect Boston to win near 60 games and take the Atlantic crown once again, I don’t expect the aging Celtics to be any better than last season - even with the addition of Rasheed. Nonetheless, the Celtics will still give Toronto a lot of trouble head-to-head. But I expect the Raptors to be lot more competitive and potentially split the season series, even though a 1-3 record against Boston is likely.

The Knicks are still in turmoil and Donnie Walsh’s imprint on the team is a year or two away from making a difference in their on-court record. I expect another sub-500 year at the Mecca. The short term impact of Philly losing Andre Miller means they will hover around .500, while New Jersey is clearly rebuilding and will finish dead last.
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Claudius 09-24-2009 03:11 PM

I see New Jersey surprising a lot of people again.

Harris has learnt alot, add in Courtney Lee who's a solid player, plus Brooks Lopez and it's a team that, albeit is young, can actually challenge for a playoff spot.

jeffb 09-24-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 242777)
I see New Jersey surprising a lot of people again.

Harris has learnt alot, add in Courtney Lee who's a solid player, plus Brooks Lopez and it's a team that, albeit is young, can actually challenge for a playoff spot.

No depth whatsoever.

30-33 wins tops. They'll be this season what we were last season.

Stonezz 09-24-2009 03:20 PM

NJ ain't making it with only Lopez, Harris and Lee. Its a nice core but not enough.

Claudius 09-24-2009 03:37 PM

Where do I say they make the playoffs? I say challenge for it. That's all.

I think they'll be competitive. I like Alston backing up Harris, I like what Chris Douglas Roberts brings, I like Battie and Najera providing some depth and toughness off the bench and maybe Yi takes it up a notch.

If anything they're missing scoring power with the departure of VC but that void could be filled if Lopez takes a step forward in his development. Again, I see them challenging for a position. They could wind up 11th though.

Stonezz 09-24-2009 03:49 PM

CDR is wack. Ok you didn't say they will make playoffs but they won't challenge either.

Superjudge 09-24-2009 03:53 PM

round table???

good fucking lord help us.

B-RAD 09-24-2009 03:57 PM

boston will be dethrowned in the 2010-11 season i believe.

as for this season i agree with that. i also agree that the predictions and shit for this upcoming season has been beaten to death and then some.

halphbreedballer 09-24-2009 07:59 PM

yAH i GREE bOSTON ISN'T GOING TO BE THAT GOOD...

Ball Don't Lie 09-24-2009 08:15 PM

I think Boston has this year and next year left and then theyll have to look at some rebuilding options with the big 3 being 35+.

But for the next 2 years, their core 8 is arguably the best in the league, only ones you can put up against them is SAS and LAL. Its very tight anyway, when healthy.

Gurk 09-24-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 242870)
yAH i GREE bOSTON ISN'T GOING TO BE THAT GOOD...

Yo what's up with the caps bro?

Nites 09-24-2009 08:22 PM

I think now with KG and Sheed in the lineup the Celtics will most likely improve slightly from last season. Defensively, I think they will be the best in the league.

halphbreedballer 09-24-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurk (Post 242877)
Yo what's up with the caps bro?

jUS BORED i WISH THE SEASON WOULD START ALREADY....

halphbreedballer 09-24-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 007nites (Post 242879)
I think now with KG and Sheed in the lineup the Celtics will most likely improve slightly from last season. Defensively, I think they will be the best in the league.

sHEED ISN'T AS GOOD AS HE USED TO BE...bIG TIME!

nEITHER IS gARNETT..bIG TIME!

Claudius 09-24-2009 09:48 PM

Sheed and Garnett haven't shown they are regressing, so this talk about them getting worst is premature.

Philadelphia I think will struggle. Who's gonna run the point for that team? They have no captain running that offence. Thad Young is a nice piece but he's overshadowedon offence by Iggy. And Iggy and Brand don't seem to have any chemistry. They have nice pieces but that's it. Guys who can't play withone another.

halphbreedballer 09-25-2009 12:45 AM

What are talking about Garnett barely played last year & sheed wasn't even close to his career numbers...

Both are playing well below there career averages and are on the decline & there is nothing that can be changed about that fact!

& ur point about brand & iggy is off they barely played together last year!

Apollo 09-25-2009 01:08 AM

The Knicks are a dark horse no doubt. I feel they will be better than last year and here's why. They just re-signed Lee to a one year deal worth $7M, plus a $1M bonus should they make the playoffs. He's playing for the big contract that never materialized this season. Better believe he has a big chip on his shoulder. Next we have Nate Robinson who will be in the same boat. Then we have Gallinari, who will be 100% for the first time in his short NBA career. He's playing in a system that suits him very well, playing for a coach who loves him and playing with a chip on his shoulder. Before he got hurt some people were suggesting that he had more potential than Bargnani. Well, I don't think so BUT Gallinari is playing at a position that typically has a faster NBA transition phase than the center position does. Beyond that these guys have had a year to gell, the system is in place and everyone knows their role. The bad seeds are gone and everyone is clear, for the first time in almost a decade, just who is in charge. I feel they have the stuff to beat out Philly for 3rd. I feel Philly will feel the pain of having no Andre Miller around, a highly underrated guard who plays at a damn near elite level at times.

1.) Boston
2.) Toronto
3.) NYC
4.) Philly
5.) New Jersey

That's my two cents anyway. Apollo out. :)

LX 09-25-2009 06:37 AM

I think Sheed has definitely regressed over the last two seasons. Still - a lot will depend on whether he develops any chemistry with the team or not. He could be a boost to them, and he could be a hindrance to them. Overall, Doc is really going to have to show some coaching skills in terms of putting together a rotation that gets through the regular season in one piece. I see a lot of guys there that will be effected by tough stretches in the schedule, or injuries that bring more playing time.

Boston still has a definite edge - but it's not hard to see how they could slide a little.

bjjs 09-25-2009 07:29 AM

NJ has developed a gritty, nose-in-the-dirt culture the past decade or so, they've done a solid job picking up players that fit that mould.

Don't be surprised if they outwork the Raps and pick up atleast 1 or 2 victories against us.

Claudius 09-25-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 242915)
What are talking about Garnett barely played last year & sheed wasn't even close to his career numbers...

Both are playing well below there career averages and are on the decline & there is nothing that can be changed about that fact!

& ur point about brand & iggy is off they barely played together last year!

Sheed may have regressed offensively but defensively he's still solid and Garnett was injured last year, but when he did play, he proved he's still a threat both offensively and defensively. Add into the fact that you're looking at Sheed as a 6th -7th man with a reduced role and really a continuity of defensive pressure and I don't think you're losing much.

And when Iggy and Brand did play together (until December I believe) they had no chemistry.


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