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Dr. J. Naismith 09-03-2008 10:31 AM

Arsenalist: "Raptors Contingency Plan"
 
Great read from RF member Arsenalist and his blog site.

It does make you think though. What does happen if the shit hits the fan this season? :confused2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Arsenalist
The nature of risk management is to be prepared for the unexpected and much like in the corporate world, the Raptors also need a “fallback plan” in case things don’t go the way they expect to. In other words, if the shit hits the fan we need to be ready. So although we’re all counting on Jermaine O’Neal to return to All-Star form and combine with Chris Bosh to become the most formidable frontcourt in the NBA, we need to have a plan in case they don’t. We’re counting on Jose Calderon to play 82 games at the same level as he did in January and February when TJ Ford was out. We’re counting on Jason Kapono to shoot more than 10 threes all spring and we’re counting on Anthony Parker to show up in the fourth quarter. We’re counting on Jamario Moon to make the 18-footer and we’re counting on Roko Ukic - a rookie - to spell Jose Calderon. We’re counting on Hassan Adams and Will Solomon to play meaningful minutes at the SF and we’re counting on Bargnani to have his best year ever. In short, a lot of things need to go right for this season to be successful.

There’s one thing that really concerns me in the case where things don’t work out: we don’t have any young talent on this team. Its one thing to say that we can ‘reset’ if the O’Neal experiment doesn’t work because of his salary coming off the cap in 2010 along with Bosh’s but its another to say what we’d do if we have to start over. If Bosh and O’Neal bolt we’d be left with the ‘nucleus’ of Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon to lead the Raptors past 2010. Calderon is obviously a damn good player but I don’t think anyone but the staunchest of Bargnani believers would be comfortable in seeing them as the two best Raptor players.

Our failure to take advantage of the draft over the last three years has left us devoid of any young talent (19-23) resulting in all our eggs being in the Bosh/O’Neal basket. It’s a tricky situation because drafting young talent and giving them significant playing time is a sign of rebuilding which isn’t all that attractive to someone like Chris Bosh. But at the same time you must draft and develop talent which will either take over or supplement whats already there. To this day the only two legitimate Raptors players we developed from rookies to having a significant role are Morris Peterson and Chris Bosh. Both of them have been great servants of the Raptors organization and have followed a good course in their development with the organization. When Damon left, we had T-Mac. When T-Mac left, we still had Vince. When Vince left, we still had Bosh. When Bosh leaves, we still have…….Bargnani? See what I’m talking about?

I’m not sure when Bryan Colangelo’s contract is up but if this experiment doesn’t work, I would not be surprised if he bolts during the summer leaving someone else to clean up his mess and spend the plethora of cash we’ll have at free agents who’d be skeptical to come here. At the end of the day he’s going to have to answer to his bosses and if their priority is to win NBA playoff series, his job will not be considered secure but if its to run a profitable organization, he’ll even get extended.

This summer was considered a “make or break” for Bryan Colangelo and he’s made a move which demands results this coming season. Its not far-fetched to say that if things blow up in his face he’ll be the one who’ll be looking for a job in a summer or two. Of course he’ll fire Sam Mitchell well before that since he’s setup to be collateral damage. The moves of this summer aren’t ones which are designed to produce results two or three years down the road but next and next year only. While we’re challenging for home-court next year we’ll also be keeping a close eye on Bargnani who by all accounts is setup to be Bosh’s successor in Toronto. If things go wrong and Bosh opts for the exit, all our hopes will be on Bargnani.

Given the talk coming out of the Raptors camp we can see that they’re very confident in the team that they have. A preview that was done a while back on Raptors Talk slotted the Raptors finishing at #5. This of course assumed a lot of things going our way including Orlando and Philadelphia stepping back despite adding Elton Brand. If you’re an optimist you can subscribe to this seeding rather easily but the question really isn’t where the Raptors finish, its what the Raptors do once they make the playoffs. You can question the Raptors depth all you want but this year’s Raptors talent is more concentrated and more likely to meet with success in the playoffs than the last two versions. Assuming everyone’s healthy, I can honestly say that we actually might have a legitimate chance against the likes of Washington, Orlando, Philadelphia and maybe even Detroit if we face them in the post-season. When was the last team a Raptors team could say that?

There’s definitely hope in the air but if that hope is crushed, there’s darkness to follow.

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Snooch 09-03-2008 10:37 AM

If shit hits the fan we have a huge expiring contract in JO to net a disgruntled player and mabey a late pick, Bosh still locked up, Jose, Bargs and a high draft pick. Looks pretty good to me either way.

Dr. J. Naismith 09-03-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SnoochieBoochie (Post 53395)
If shit hits the fan we have a huge expiring contract in JO to net a disgruntled player and mabey a late pick, Bosh still locked up, Jose, Bargs and a high draft pick. Looks pretty good to me either way.

Not till 2010 if I remember correctly. That's still a long way away. I definitely wouldn't want to suffer that long. Would you? :confused2:

jeffb 09-03-2008 10:46 AM

Make or break year for BC?I don't see that happening.But i do have concerns about this coming season, if all goes well health wise it should be a good season.But if Calderon,Bosh or O'neal go down with a significant injury we're in pretty big trouble in my opinion.The bench has very little depth past Kapono (or Moon depending on who starts) & Bargnani.And if one of them is thrust into the starting line up due to an injury there will be even less depth.

Snooch 09-03-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 53397)
Not till 2010 if I remember correctly. That's still a long way away. I definitely wouldn't want to suffer that long. Would you? :confused2:

No but this upcomming year is 08-09
Then 09-10 (thats when he is off the books, after season) So I was implying that he could, next summer or trade deadline, be used as trade bait, much like Rasho this past year.

Snooch 09-03-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 53398)
Make or break year for BC?I don't see that happening.But i do have concerns about this coming season, if all goes well health wise it should be a good season.But if Calderon,Bosh or O'neal go down with a significant injury we're in pretty big trouble in my opinion.The bench has very little depth past Kapono (or Moon depending on who starts) & Bargnani.And if one of them is thrust into the starting line up due to an injury there will be even less depth.

Same could be said of Boston, if KG or Pierce goes down......

rapsfan087 09-03-2008 10:51 AM

That happens to almost all the teams: if their key players don't play, team don't play well.

I don't think that teams use to have plan B for the fallbacks.

LX 09-03-2008 04:28 PM

Teams used to have multiple HOFers. That just doesn't happen anymore. Too many teams. And then when it does happen you get guys wanting it to be their team.

The best thing about Forderon was that it allowed for a certain amount of built-in contingency. That's what I loved about it the most, and why I wished it could have lasted another season or two.

Now we just have to think that the three bigs can spread out their efforts and the wear and tear that comes with a full season, and bring some wins when the team as a whole might be suffering at any given point.

Superjudge 09-03-2008 04:37 PM

Forderon provided contigency...in place to back up mediocrity.

I guess ya gotta swing for the fences in todays NBA huh.

I like the gamble, fuck the fall back, if ya suck you get a nice draft pick.

LX 09-03-2008 04:41 PM

Agreed SJ. I thought Forderon worked well for a developing team. And I'm more than happy to see them taking a pretty low-risk shot at becoming something of a finished product.

Gurk 09-03-2008 05:09 PM

If this JO works out in TO then the raps will be fine. And if all the other things Arsenalist said works out the raps will be a legit team

LX 09-03-2008 07:47 PM

Another reason for the difference in how stacked teams can get - the l.tax that Funkie has been talking about. That might have more to do with it than the dispersal of talent due to expansion.

Dino Blogger 09-04-2008 04:34 PM

Raptors are taking a gamble on the next 2 seasons and 2010 they have cash. I am cool with that. It is a classic Colangelo move and it thinks both short and long term. I have no problem with what Raptors did. I understand the risk as most people do.

People hated Babcock because he never could make deals and the ones he did sucked least Colangelo is taking a shot at it. The suggestion Colangelo is in any trouble with the Raptors is luaghable. He has got this team to the playoffs 2 straight years. that is a lot better than the folks on the hockey side of MLSE and there is no way his job is in play anytime soon

Superjudge 09-04-2008 04:43 PM

well ya.

I find it odd that the people that could post 1000 posts about who had to leave, calderon or ford, would now discuss if the team was better without both.

Jesus H. guys..... are you all on the weed?

Gurk 09-04-2008 06:47 PM

I think most of them are and I think you are one of those people.
Are you SJ?

westcoastRapsfan 09-04-2008 11:07 PM

i think it wierd that now people are saying its make or break for BC because without him the raps sucked since then we have been actually in the playoffs and continually growing, which will probably continue under him. But if hes gone were probably going to be ripped apart and left to dwell in the bottom like we did before which i desperatly dont want to see.

Superjudge 09-05-2008 12:30 PM

nope.

never touch the stuff.

Snooch 09-05-2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 53765)
nope.

never touch the stuff.

Someone else rolls for you?:stars:

Superjudge 09-05-2008 12:54 PM

nope

I just don't smoke weed.

no use for it.

;)

Snooch 09-05-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 53780)
nope

I just don't smoke weed.

no use for it.

;)

I think I beleive you, I have seen your woman, so why would you ever want to distort that reality.:haha:


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