Arsenalist: "Jose Calderon’s game must change"
Old 09-10-2008, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts? Does he have to change much if anything this season? And if so, what?

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It’s tough man, it’s tough to not like Jose Calderon’s assist to turnover ratio and insane FG percentage and that’s probably why he comes in at #33 in Fan House’s Top 50 NBA players list. Calderon earned the credit and the contract last year by usurping TJ Ford as the man at the point in Toronto by showing Bryan Colangelo why he’s the floor general the Raptors needed. But you know what’s similar about Jamario Moon and Jose Calderon? If they have the exact same year again we’re in big trouble.

We’ve already discussed the areas where Moon needs to improve so that the wing hole can look smaller but Calderon is an entirely different matter. Last year he got a lot of his assists by kicking out to open 3-pt shooters and finding jump-shot ready Parker, Kapono or even Moon for open shots. His assists weren’t spectacular like TJ Ford’s but came more naturally and in the run-of-play. The drive-n-kick worked well for him last year and he often dominated the ball in the pick ‘n roll situation which fed him a lot of his assists.

Coming into next year the dynamics of his game will have to change. The pick ‘n roll will still be featured but you have to think O’Neal and Bosh’s post-up games will be front and center in the Raptors’ offense which means Calderon will be handling less of the ball and relying on the Bosh/O’Neal outlet to supply the trigger in the offense. The other adjustment teams will make this year is to not double off of Calderon’s man since he proved last season that he can hit the deep two or the three. Just like Bargnani failed to adjust in his second year to the personal space being taken away, Calderon will be given the option to put the ball on the floor rather than to launch uncontested jumpers. Life will get tougher for Jose, no doubt about that.

One of the criticisms against him has been that he’s a little too careful with the ball and doesn’t push it enough for the Raptors to get easy baskets. I tend to agree with this opinion. There has to be a happy medium between Jose Calderon pulling back in 4 on 2’s and TJ Ford forcing it in 1 on 4’s. Calderon has to make the defense fear him when he gets the ball early in the shot-clock after a defensive rebound. And this year we will be getting more defensive rebounds, with O’Neal and Bosh manning the boards you have to think we’re going to clear more rebounds and have more opportunities for early running via the 25-45 foot outlet pass. If Jose starts pulling back in these situations its going to cost us easy buckets and build inherent frustration in Bosh and O’Neal since a big man loves to see easy baskets off his rebounds. Again, nobody’s asking him to do the drugs TJ was doing but maybe a pill here and there wouldn’t hurt.

The Raptors were guilty of getting to poor starts last year and with a rookie backing him up you have to wonder just how much Sam Mitchell can afford to rest Jose Calderon in the first quarter. He’ll likely be playing 11 of the first 12 minutes and probably 9 in the second quarter for 20 in the half. Last year he averaged 30.3 minutes a game and seemed stretched late in the season. This year he’ll have to undoubtedly play more minutes and produce more, how will these new expectations affect him? Truth is that we don’t know, he appears to be in excellent shape and looks like he could play heavy minutes and still produce consistently. The challenge here isn’t Calderon’s though, it’s Sam Mitchell’s and how well he hides his weak backup PG situation. Simply increasing Calderon’s minutes and hoping he produces more is not exactly coaching and I hope Sam has figured that out.

Let’s talk some X’s and O’s and get back to the double-teaming of Bosh or O’Neal. Assuming we have the lineup of Calderon, Parker, O’Neal, Moon and Bosh on the floor and one of our big men gets doubled, who does the defense leave? I’d rank the defense’s options as:

1) Jamario Moon
2) Jose Calderon
3) Anthony Parker

There’s no doubt that the double will come from Jamario’s man in this case and he’ll either be forced to shoot or the defense will rotate to leave Calderon and then Parker open. It goes without saying that the spacing in these cases needs to be perfect. For example, imagine if next to Moon for whatever reason stood Bosh in the 15-19 foot area? The whole thing would be a damn disaster since the swing sequence would be altered and we’d have to reset. Anyway, now if we replace Jamario Moon with Jason Kapono in that lineup, the defense simply cannot afford to double! That is the offensive lineup that the Raptors hope to kill teams with. If for whatever reason that lineup fails to fire, impending doom looms.

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Old 09-10-2008, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think he needs to not pull back all the time, but he also needs to be able to not have to work so hard so often, which would make it easier for him to not always pull back. And running more offense through the bigs will take a lot of pressure off of him. The offense will not depend on him working his ass off and then not having anything left in the tank by the fourth quarter. Or going at a slow pace for two or three quarters so that he can play at a decent pace in the fourth. He should just be able to be even keel - the thing that suits him most.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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who the fuck is this guy.

no offence, I mean he wrote a lot, and it sounds nice, but he's wrong.

one of the biggest things about the internet and blogging is that decent writers can make shit shine, and people eat it up.

Using a balanced attack and hitting open guys as an excuse for Jose's success, as if it was somehow a fluke that helped pad stats is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that he[s there, and TJ is gone is a direct result of the fact that Jose was able to get these guys into that flow, and into that rythm, and the other guy wasn't. Toss in a better 1-2 punch on the blocks, and a more comfortable and ready to shoot Kapono/parker, and a free'd up and cutting Moonan dtrust, Calderon will look like Steve effin stockton.

Just cuz guys make themselves sound good on blogs, doesnt make them right boys.

Honestly.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Who's steve Stockten
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Agree with SJ, he speaks the truth....



And to add, isnt driving and kicking esentially what made John Stockton a HOF'r
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Who's steve Stockten
he is a cybernetic PG of perfection cloned from Stockton and nash.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I read up on the arsenalist.

Superfan, ran a different site before.

I respect that, but hardly the efficacy I require personally for any kind of attention greater than passing interest during the dog days of July-October
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Stockton did much more than drive and kick. He did whatever it took, including setting some nasty picks.

And Arsenalist isn't wrong so much as he's looking at how Jose played without the changes that have been made this season. He's absolutely right about Jose pulling back on breaks so much, but there was a pretty good reason for that which should no longer be the case. When there was too much dependence on what Jose brought to the offense, the team was lacking bigtime, and there were way too many possessions where prayers were tossed up late in the clock. No that can't happen again, but this team has been constructed precisely to avoid that happening again.

Then again Arsenalist thinks this team has been constructed to fail and allow Colangelo the excuse he apparently needs to fire Sam. So there's only so far he's going to go down another path - and as a result he lays everything at the feet of Jose's game.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it all sounds like a hypercomplex mesage board post to me.

Jose pulled the ball up for a reason, there wasn't anything there.

Keep in mind LX, the people that have criticized his "pulling up" have been the fans on message boards. Not the coaches, and not the Scouts around the league.

Jose plays very smart ball, the kind you win championships with. He also made some fucking brilliant, if not spectacular entry passes last year, to stiffs that couldnt catch a cold. And he made them look amazing. Nobody talks about those, they all wanna see Alley oops on the run and no looks after you leave your feet and have nothing. Looks good on the count down, doesn't do shit otherwise.

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LX, yeah Stockton did more but remember that Sloan was his coach, Joses got Smitch....

You actually think Smitch wants Jose to set a screen?
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Stockton and Sloan also ran the pick and roll to death. But that makes Sam a shitty coach right?

And SJ - Jose pulled up on the break, played at a super slow, clock-killing pace, and failed to play from end-line to end-line through a good part of a brutal schedule when TJ was not around. I'm not saying that he's not capable of better play - I'm just saying that he's not superman, and he definitely needed more to work with, which he now has.
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ok.
just don't say that he was sub-par when he didnt push things.

it's a bad way of describing safe play.

his assist to turnover ratio will likely hurt more and more as he gets better players to work with. Once the talent is there its natural to wanna atack and do some creative things that you might not want to otherwise....and thats when mistakes are made....see Steve Nash.
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Stockton and Sloan also ran the pick and roll to death. But that makes Sam a shitty coach right?
No what makes Sam a shitty coach is that he cannot come up with anything other than the pick and roll. Utahs offense was a bit more than just pick and roll with 3 other standing on the 3 point line. It was more of a hybrid offense with motion coming from the other 3 players. And defensively Utah had many, many more plays.
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Thruthfully, I thought the biggest chink in Jose's armour was being too unselfish at times and I think he found a much better balance as the season wore on.
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yep.

when he took over and loooked for that 17 foot shot, he was scary
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ok.
just don't say that he was sub-par when he didnt push things.

it's a bad way of describing safe play.

his assist to turnover ratio will likely hurt more and more as he gets better players to work with. Once the talent is there its natural to wanna atack and do some creative things that you might not want to otherwise....and thats when mistakes are made....see Steve Nash.
A slower more controlled offense improves defense, with which Raps had major deficiencies last season. He was also playing as a change of pace player with a second unit. TJ had the big guns, Jose had Joey and Delfino and Kaps.

With the help from JO you will see alot of push passes from Jose out of a defensive rebound to a now breaking Moon and Adams.
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I think Jose is much more competent in finishing at the rim than TJ was (although TJ gets there easier). So if the lanes open up, if could be very dangerous for opposing teams. And the other thing is, with so many scorers on our team (jo, cb4, kapono, bargnani, parker), you can afford to keep jose on the bench for 15 minutes a game easily. Because if you take care with the rotation, so that at any given time you have bosh, jo or Calderon on the floor, you don't need a mega point guard to keep the offense going. imo.
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I think that Jose has a chance to play something of a Chauncey Billups type game with this current lineup. He is going to be able to pick and choose his moments, and otherwise hold the ship steady. But I do think he will have to play a good deal of minutes to keep that ship staedy.
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