Armstrong: Johnson, Weems, Bayless
Old 03-01-2011, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1. JAMES JOHNSON - I like this pickup for the Raptors. He's well worth a late first round pick - you won't find a guy in this draft class with his upside at that late 20's draft slot. At 6'9" and at the three spot, he can be a guy that can help improve the defence and rebounding issues of this franchise. He's got a good feel for the game and can make plays for teammates. Needs to shoot it better and be a guy who can do things at a consistent level each game but he was well worth the flyer that they took on him. I really liked him at Wake Forest as a good mid-first round prospect and this is your classic 'under the radar' pickup that 'could' pay dividends in the future. Only time will tell but the logic of this move makes complete sense to me.
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4. SONNY WEEMS - With the addition of James Johnson to the teamand starting lineup this is a significant blow to Weems. How he handles the situation is something that will be watched by not only the Raptors but the other 29 teams that can make a run at the free agent this off season. Professionalism and productivity have to be the focus here in spite of the fact that I'm sure there is frustration and disappointment with being out of the starting lineup, which is understandable. Push through that and be a good player. It's about the long term benefit to the career.

5. JERRYD BAYLESS - In my opinion, this will be a huge summer for him. He's on his third team and still hasn't busted through to the point of playing consistent minutes each game. Two-to-one assist to turnover ratio is OK, but he needs to get a lot better at running a team and make a lot more high percentage decisions. He has to become a lights-out shooter (30 per cent on three-point shooting isn't good enough) and get his distance shooting into the 40 per cent range, which will open up his whole game and make him a much better screen and roll guy. Lastly, his defence can improve. He's still more of an off guard trying to transition to the point guard spot but significant strides need to happen between now and next October for him to make another step. He's a very hard worker and is tough minded. I think he'll pay the price and I think he can develop into a good player. The coming months are big.
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Dead on with Johnson, Weems is as good as gone, Bayless better improve over the summer for sure, especially on his decision making and shot.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I like the James Johnson pick-up. He can play the George Lynch role for the Raptors. However, if the Raps don't get Irving, there are alot of small fowards (Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, and Harrison Barnes) that will be available at the Raptor's pick. With no great center at the top of draft board, Raptor will be desperate to get Irving.
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Weems is definitely gone.. seeing him start this season was depressing.
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IMO Johnson brings so much more to the table than Weems, and especially the starting lineup. He doesn't require the ball, defends, is significantly taller as a SF (6'9 vs 6'6), and hustles. Weems' game is completely suited to being part of a 'bench mob'.
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IMO Johnson brings so much more to the table than Weems, and especially the starting lineup. He doesn't require the ball, defends, is significantly taller as a SF (6'9 vs 6'6), and hustles. Weems' game is completely suited to being part of a 'bench mob'.
Agreed if we can sign Weems for the minimum I'll take him coming off the bench
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Agreed if we can sign Weems for the minimum I'll take him coming off the bench
doubt we can sign him for the minimum maybe 2-3 mill max
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I like the James Johnson pick-up. He can play the George Lynch role for the Raptors. However, if the Raps don't get Irving, there are alot of small fowards (Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, and Harrison Barnes) that will be available at the Raptor's pick. With no great center at the top of draft board, Raptor will be desperate to get Irving.
Both Kanter and Valanciunas are projected in the top 10, and depending on the draft board, close to the top of the draft. I think either would be a worthwhile pick at C if Irving is unavailable and there isn't a 'can't miss' prospect available.
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I like the James Johnson pick-up. He can play the George Lynch role for the Raptors. However, if the Raps don't get Irving, there are alot of small fowards (Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, and Harrison Barnes) that will be available at the Raptor's pick. With no great center at the top of draft board, Raptor will be desperate to get Irving.
P. Jones is more of a PF, no?
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Both Kanter and Valanciunas are projected in the top 10, and depending on the draft board, close to the top of the draft. I think either would be a worthwhile pick at C if Irving is unavailable and there isn't a 'can't miss' prospect available.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Raps take a Euro player, especially when you have Gherardhini telling BC: "take the Euro, take the Euro." With all BC's mistakes in free agency and trades, he has drafted very well with the 9th and 13th pick (both American players) the last two drafts.
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This is Jerryd's 2nd season basically. Even though he set a Summer League scoring record as a rookie with 30ppg, his first year was packed with DNP's and scrub shifts at the end of games. Why is that you may ask? It's because Rudy would get depressed if his Spanish buddy Sergio Rodriguez wasn't on the court with him. That and Roy was pushing his name into MVP status, which required bookoo minutes.

In his second year, we signed Andre Miller, so coach Nate benched Jerryd once again. Then Rudy had to go get some back surgery early in the season, which allowed Jerryd to step up for some more quality minutes. Then Roy missed some time, and we had Jerryd as our starting 2, and he played terrific.

Playoffs? Jerryd was the only Blazer playing his ass off in last year's playoffs for us. He put up a 12, 4 n 4

Young, strong, fast and smart, he's what you call a ringer
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This is Jerryd's 2nd season basically. Even though he set a Summer League scoring record as a rookie with 30ppg, his first year was packed with DNP's and scrub shifts at the end of games. Why is that you may ask? It's because Rudy would get depressed if his Spanish buddy Sergio Rodriguez wasn't on the court with him. That and Roy was pushing his name into MVP status, which required bookoo minutes.

In his second year, we signed Andre Miller, so coach Nate benched Jerryd once again. Then Rudy had to go get some back surgery early in the season, which allowed Jerryd to step up for some more quality minutes. Then Roy missed some time, and we had Jerryd as our starting 2, and he played terrific.

Playoffs? Jerryd was the only Blazer playing his ass off in last year's playoffs for us. He put up a 12, 4 n 4

Young, strong, fast and smart, he's what you call a ringer
I was reading quickly and I thought you wrote the N word LOL
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Raps take a Euro player, especially when you have Gherardhini telling BC: "take the Euro, take the Euro." With all BC's mistakes in free agency and trades, he has drafted very well with the 9th and 13th pick (both American players) the last two drafts.
Have you ever heard Gherardhini speak? I think you strongly undervalue his intelligence and basketball knowledge. And Colangelo's 'american draft history' is much more extensive than DD and Davis.

As far as Perry Jones is concerned, (I think Jeff mentioned PF), is there any concern this guy is another Anthony Randolph?
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Have you ever heard Gherardhini speak? I think you strongly undervalue his intelligence and basketball knowledge. And Colangelo's 'american draft history' is much more extensive than DD and Davis.

As far as Perry Jones is concerned, (I think Jeff mentioned PF), is there any concern this guy is another Anthony Randolph?
So how does a fellow employee Masai Ujiri below the Raptor's Hierarchy (Director of Global Scouting) get a General Manager job before you? He was the guy that was suppose give us the inside track on foreign talent. Has he made any significant contributions to the Raptors? I know there was some foreign talent like Serge Ibaka, Beaubois, Batum, Ilyasova who would have looked good in a Raptor's uniform.
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So how does a fellow employee Masai Ujiri below the Raptor's Hierarchy (Director of Global Scouting) get a General Manager job before you? He was the guy that was suppose give us the inside track on foreign talent. Has he made any significant contributions to the Raptors? I know there was some foreign talent like Serge Ibaka, Beaubois, Batum, Ilyasova who would have looked good in a Raptor's uniform.
Perhaps Gherardini doesn't have the fire and drive to be an NBA GM, but would rather be an assistant/head of European scouting, which is his comfort zone?
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Perhaps Gherardini doesn't have the fire and drive to be an NBA GM, but would rather be an assistant/head of European scouting, which is his comfort zone?
I don't think so. In 2003, Gherardini was interviewed for the Charlotte GM job. With all the success he has had as general manager for Benetton Treviso, the same success has not translated with the Raptors.
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I don't think so. In 2003, Gherardini was interviewed for the Charlotte GM job. With all the success he has had as general manager for Benetton Treviso, the same success has not translated with the Raptors.
Yes, and that was 8 years ago. I have no doubts that he would have taken a GM job back then. However, a lot could have happened since then. He may be comfortable where he is right now, working with trusted friend and ally Bryan Colangelo.
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Regarding Weems -- everyone seems to think he's going to be gone next season. I don't think that's necessarily true - if we can sign him for cheap, like 2-3 million off the bench, then I think that's a smart move. He's still young and has some upside.

However, the problem with Weems is not to overvalue what he brings. If he thinks he's worth 5-6 million then we're in trouble (though, honestly, in today's NBA market, that would be an almost impossible sell. GM's are a lot more careful to throw that kind of money around on players with questionable value. A few years ago he'd easily get $6+ million per year, just like Jarred Jeffries, Brandan Haywood, and Dan Gadzuric did).

Weems is a 10-15ppg scoring wing -- utterly replaceable. And he's best suited as a bench player. Fortunately, DeRozan's growth this year has solidified that DeRozan is the starter, and Weems is the backup. Adding James Johnson is also very smart -- we're not undersized at the SF every night anymore. Plus we still have Kleiza, who can be a solid SF backup for Johnson when he comes back from injury. Kleiza, like Weems, is a very solid player off the bench.

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So how does a fellow employee Masai Ujiri below the Raptor's Hierarchy (Director of Global Scouting) get a General Manager job before you? He was the guy that was suppose give us the inside track on foreign talent. Has he made any significant contributions to the Raptors? I know there was some foreign talent like Serge Ibaka, Beaubois, Batum, Ilyasova who would have looked good in a Raptor's uniform.
there is always lateblooming talent.... beaubois? where was he picked? Ibaka? Batum had a heart condition that they couldn't get medical clarification on... that's why he dropped... huge risk, you can name lots of talent that slips through, but it's pretty ignorant to assume that the draft is much more than an educated crapshoot
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there is always lateblooming talent.... beaubois? where was he picked? Ibaka? Batum had a heart condition that they couldn't get medical clarification on... that's why he dropped... huge risk, you can name lots of talent that slips through, but it's pretty ignorant to assume that the draft is much more than an educated crapshoot
All this guys weren't highly touted and were late first round and early second round picks. That why the Raps hired Gherardini, he had any eye for talent and was inside source to get hidden international talent.
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All this guys weren't highly touted and were late first round and early second round picks. That why the Raps hired Gherardini, he had any eye for talent and was inside source to get hidden international talent.
that's not the only reason he was hired.... and he also has other duties... meaning that he isn't just a scout
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