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Acie 04-25-2011 01:11 PM

Armstong: The kid gloves are finally off
 
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I found Bryan Colangelo's comments about him at a press conference last Monday to be quite revealing when he spoke about his rebounding and defence. Was I surprised by it? At this stage, no. Bottom line, when a player that you've bent over backward to try to nurture and bring along and develop and show support and patience with continues to frustrate/perplex you and puts your own livelihood on the line, you tend to say enough is enough. If Bargnani returns to the Raptors next season, he not only owes the organization, the fans, his teammates and himself a lot more, he owes Colangelo and Jay Triano greater commitment to everything being asked/demanded of him. He's been treated very fairly and at times they've enabled him too much. He has let them down. The "kid gloves" are rightfully off now and obviously should have been off way sooner. It's now or never. As a man, you look in the mirror and question yourself and what you stand for at this stage. Congrats to him on having a career year in points per game but how does it feel to be on a 60-loss team? Time to respond to the challenge. He CAN do it. Will he? Your guess is as good as mine.
LINK - TSN.ca

ha123 04-25-2011 01:16 PM

Jack went OFF. He is absolutley right.

Gurk 04-25-2011 01:21 PM

Didn't really expect Jack to write all that but it's true. I think we should give Bargs up until the Trade deadline, if he doesn't play any better then we shuld look to move him

carp 04-25-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ha123 (Post 532997)
Jack went OFF. He is absolutley right.

I agree, he can do it.

Dark Knight 04-25-2011 01:29 PM

I read every word of that in Jack's voice. :dancing:

Don Vito 04-25-2011 01:31 PM

Jack always finds everything 'quite revealing' , lol

powerfulpanda 04-25-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 532999)
I agree, he can do it.

but WILL he?

DonMughal 04-25-2011 01:42 PM

Put him on the trading block son. :chuck:

carp 04-25-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 533004)
but WILL he?

who knows... but if people in the know still feel he can, I'd suggest they think he might.....

Don Vito 04-25-2011 01:57 PM

I have a feeling Bargnani will be here to start the season, and if he is still in idiot mode he will get traded before the deadline.

DDUnreal 04-25-2011 01:58 PM

I bet he becomes more motivated if he is traded

jeffb 04-25-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 533001)
I read every word of that in Jack's voice. :dancing:

Well then, clear your throat. ;)

RAPMAN 04-25-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DDUnreal (Post 533015)
I bet he becomes more motivated if he is traded

A leopard can't change his spots. Bargnani will always chuck up his shots, and be a defensive liability. Did Vince Carter all of sudden get the killer attitude and become the elite player that would dominate the NBA. Did TJ Ford become less of a ball hog, pass and make his teammates better and become a starting point guard in the NBA.

EggsToTheBBQ 04-25-2011 02:26 PM

We'll be able to tell if Bargs is coming around at the beginning of training camp.

If I'm BC, and I see Bargs walk through the door in training camp and he's not in the best shape of his life, I get on the phone right then and start working out a trade.

It's now or never.

carp 04-25-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN (Post 533022)
A leopard can't change his spots. Bargnani will always chuck up his shots, and be a defensive liability. Did Vince Carter all of sudden get the killer attitude and become the elite player that would dominate the NBA. Did TJ Ford become less of a ball hog, pass and make his teammates better and become a starting point guard in the NBA.

Did Darko become a serviceable center in the league? Can Demarcus Cousins become a professional basketball player? Can Amir reduce his tendency to foul?

These guys aren't leopards.

powerfulpanda 04-25-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 533024)
Did Darko become a serviceable center in the league? Can Demarcus Cousins become a professional basketball player? Can Amir reduce his tendency to foul?

These guys aren't leopards.

i understand ur point but those guys never had an issue with effort whereas playing with no heart is the common denominator with barg and vince

jeffb 04-25-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EggsToTheBBQ (Post 533023)
We'll be able to tell if Bargs is coming around at the beginning of training camp.

If I'm BC, and I see Bargs walk through the door in training camp and he's not in the best shape of his life, I get on the phone right then and start working out a trade.

It's now or never.

Mehhhh, he's ok as far as being in shape goes. But it's his overall motivation and the fact that he's lacking something between the ears.

ha123 04-25-2011 02:32 PM

I see Bargs getting traded at deadline if this continues. But no way is he getting traded this offseason.

powerfulpanda 04-25-2011 02:33 PM

i think even if bargnani starts off next season re-energized and playing as expected, we shouldn't get happy too soon. its not anything we haven't seen before. he always starts off well and trails off.....or has good spurts here and there

'trane 04-25-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 533027)
i understand ur point but those guys never had an issue with effort whereas playing with no heart is the common denominator with barg and vince

if you think vince played with no heart in his first 4-5 years in the league, we weren't watching the same guy.


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