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Old 12-06-2012, 01:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The Raptors need Lowry or DeRozan or Casey to call out Bargnani for consistently under performing,not to create controversy but to motivate the "hub" to be exactly what he's expected to be. Kind of like how Kobe has repeatedly done with Gasol when Pau takes a step or two back
I actually agree with this
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:12 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I would have still picked Drummond over Ross. Drummond was obviously more of the risky pick, but his ceiling is a lot higher. If he becomes that double double machine with 2-3 blocks 2-3 years from now, watch us all regret it. It's harder to find quality big men these days.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:15 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I actually agree with this
He hasn't really been publically challenged and maybe he's bored right now,I don't think it hurts because it definitely won't divide the locker room and AB has shown to be emotionless,it can only be a positive outcome if anything.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I actually agree with this
Anything to get him going again, but Kobe's credibility and championships speaks for itself. Players would be more receptive to him. I still think Bargnani can come out from his shooting woes. When he's shooting the ball well, they just have to keep going back to him. At the same time, he needs to take it upon himself to continually shoot the ball when he's hot. Against Detroit he scored 17 points in the first quarter, we all know he can score. He started passing up some open shots in the second quarter. He still has value and hopefully we can get a quality wing player or Gasol if a trade presents itself.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:21 AM   #25 (permalink)
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the way we're playing it feels like an oncoming coaching change situation more-so than a roster shakeup.

an aside: something is going on with bargnani. and its not like the given up on lost season situations we've seen in the past when its getting to spring and the playoffs are out of sight. i think it was leo that mentioned bargnani's scoring in home games vs away games. that can't be a good sign of the psychology. now i recognize that'd it could be hard for anyone to play where they're ready to lynch you (and people are not without reason for their anger) but i get the read that there's more to it than that.

anyway... casey's lauded defence is awol. the offence is a mess. derozen seems like the only player that's advanced—ed had already shown sparks before with 20-10ish runs with minutes. the timeouts... the rotations... keeping Bargnani on the floor when he's playing horribly (and always seeming to go away from him when he's hot)... not exploiting jonas on pick an roll... the two poinguard lineup...

and its a lot easier to put it on casey that rip apart the whole team of admit you've put together a bunch of misfit (overpriced and questionable) pieces.

but its the seeming complete loss of defensive identity that really makes me wonder what the hell is happening. its not like we're playing as a good defensive team when you subtract bargnani.
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He hasn't really been publically challenged and maybe he's bored right now,I don't think it hurts because it definitely won't divide the locker room and AB has shown to be emotionless,it can only be a positive outcome if anything.
Casey challenged him early last year before the season started and he answered the bell, time to try something new. Maybe you need to motivate him every so often, don't know lol.

Maybe he's hurting psychologically after getting dumped by Nabilla Chihab. Ricky Romero got dumped by Miss America and had a dreadfull season
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Casey challenged him early last year before the season started and he answered the bell, time to try something new. Maybe you need to motivate him every so often, don't know lol.

Maybe he's hurting psychologically after getting dumped by Nabilla Chihab. Ricky Romero got dumped by Miss America and had a dreadfull season
7yrs of this, i don't give a flying fuck if she took a dump in his food. This is simply who he is.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:26 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Casey challenged him early last year before the season started and he answered the bell, time to try something new. Maybe you need to motivate him every so often, don't know lol.

Maybe he's hurting psychologically after getting dumped by Nabilla Chihab. Ricky Romero got dumped by Miss America and had a dreadfull season
This is probably it. I highly doubt Bargs has fallen off because his skills have diminished,it seems like he's either distracted or unmotivated. His struggles are definitely on the psychological side. At some point you have to move on if its about the girl,it shouldn't ruin the most important aspects of your life. Females have a way of altering a mans confidence at times.
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His girl left him
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:37 AM   #30 (permalink)
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7yrs of this, i don't give a flying fuck if she took a dump in his food. This is simply who he is.
That's hardly comparable to a breakup. Ever had your heart broken Jeff? Willing to share some passionate details to RF.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:39 AM   #31 (permalink)
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That's hardly comparable to a breakup. Ever had your heart broken Jeff? Willing to share some passionate details to RF.
Who hasn't? But as it's been said on here before, motherfucker needs to where his big boy pants and not shit in them. It's been several months since his breakup, take it out on your opponents and get your head out of your ass!
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:42 AM   #32 (permalink)
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This is probably it. I highly doubt Bargs has fallen off because his skills have diminished,it seems like he's either distracted or unmotivated. His struggles are definitely on the psychological side. At some point you have to move on if its about the girl,it shouldn't ruin the most important aspects of your life. Females have a way of altering a mans confidence at times.
They certainly can
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Pietrus outplayed DeRozan tonight.... that's a problem.
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who actually expected this team to make the playoffs in the offseason?
at best this team is 10th in the East.

blaming Bargs' problems on female issues is funny. The guy is a millionaire, I'm sure he'll get another broad soon. Coming off a breakup actually gives you more focus on the court.
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Bargnani is tanking so the Lakers can get him and Calderon, for Pau and a Bucks 2nd rounder. (3-way gobblety goo)
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:41 AM   #36 (permalink)
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There are obvious chemistry issues going on and Casey has lost the locker room. The team is just a mess overall.
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Pietrus outplayed DeRozan tonight.... that's a problem.
Yah, that was the reason we lost tonight. /smh

Don't try and take the blame away from Bargnani!

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Old 12-06-2012, 09:45 AM   #38 (permalink)
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We got really unlucky with the first pick in one of the worst draft classes in history.
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Yah, that was the reason we lost tonight. /smh

Don't try and take the blame away from Bargnani!
We didn't just lose because of Bargnani..... you're fooling yourself if you think that. This team is a lemon dude... they blow. It's not my fault you thought they'd be competing for a top seed. The offense sucks. The defense lacks unpredictability so it sucks too. Blame one guy all you want, we're still going to suck when he's gone. Book it!
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We didn't just lose because of Bargnani.....
Our "best scorer" goes 3-14, doesn't contribute on the boards and most of the night looked lost on D. He was the biggest reason we lost, period! The only reason??? no i suppose not, but easily the main reason.

He's pooping his big boy pants. lol
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