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Old 05-24-2009, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bargnani's Future Tied To What Happens With Bosh

With both Andrea Bargnani and Chris Bosh having only one year remaining on their contracts (assuming the latter opts out), it’s still up in the air on whether they’ll both, neither or one, be here after the summer of 2010. Bryan Colangelo is able to re-sign both to long-term contracts this summer, but the ball is indeed in the players’ court.

In the case of Bargnani, there’s no reason for him not to re-sign this summer to a new long-term contract. If you’re Colangelo do you want to give him guaranteed money for two or three years after only 50 games of consistency?

After a rookie campaign where he showed flashes of Dirk Nowitzki like play, his play tailed off as a sophomore. It wasn’t until he was assigned to be a starter after New Year’s that he really took off. He once again showed those flashes except this time he was one more thing: better.

He was better at attacking the basket. He was better at drawing fouls. He was better defensively.

He was better.

As stated in a previous article, that stretch of games after New Year’s may just have saved his career as a Raptor and in the process, made him boatloads of money.

The key was that it wasn’t just two or three weeks of solid play, it was four months of good-great play.

But, it may have never been if a certain big summer acquisition didn’t get hurt.

O’Neal may have done more for this team than originally thought, even though his play on the court wasn’t all that great in a Raptors uniform. His work with Bargnani, specifically how to play defense as a big man, went a long way in helping Bargnani progress as a player and if it wasn’t for O’Neal getting hurt than Bargnani probably would’ve never been forced into the starting center role.

One man’s loss is another man’s gain.

You can say that he was lucky O’Neal got injured, but the man still performed remarkably well for someone who most fans had written off as one of the worst number one picks in NBA history.

Don’t get me wrong, questions still remain about him, like if he’s better suited playing center or power forward. But, you can only start one power forward a game and that’s not going to be him as long as Bosh is here.
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We've all been focused on what Bosh is doing and how Colangelo will handle that situation but what about Bargnani?
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We've all been focused on what Bosh is doing and how Colangelo will handle that situation but what about Bargnani?
Here is the problem:

1) Chris Bosh is more important to sign in the minds of most

2) In the minds of many Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani do not equal a championship

So how can you sign one without knowing whether you are keeping the other?

If you have Bosh maybe you don't want Bargnani.

If you don't have Bosh boy do you ever need Bargnani.

So have to play one step at a time.

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Old 05-25-2009, 12:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well there's a good chance he'll be our new #1 option next year, so I guess he won't be flying under the radar then. He needs to move to PF and build a more post-up based game like Dirk. Actually with his size he might do pretty well doing that.
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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flying under the radar. i was watching some espn top 10 plays of the year, Bargnani was on there twice!!!, once at no.8 and once at no4. both of which eratic dunks over defenders ala lebron.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The flying under the radar comment has to do with the point of the article, his potential new contract(extension). It wasn't directed at his game at all. Everyone is focused on Bosh but Colangelo needs to get something worked out with Andrea by October 31st and this is an important topic that few are paying much attention to.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I very much like the frontcourt of Bosh Barganani Marion. Add depth and solid perimeter defenders, and there are some possibilities there.
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lets start the trade Bargs discussion
b/c he's not worth the MAX
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Bosh + Bargnani = pretenders
Bosh + Bargnani + legitimate wing players = contenders
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flying under the radar. i was watching some espn top 10 plays of the year, Bargnani was on there twice!!!, once at no.8 and once at no4. both of which eratic dunks over defenders ala lebron.
I just watched the top ten NBA pl;ays on ESPN.

He was on there at 8..... watching Carter torch toronto....again.

Stop bullshitting.
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lets start the trade Bargs discussion
b/c he's not worth the MAX
Neither is Bosh.
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i think he's so called "flying under the radar" because if i'm not mistaken he's on his rookie contract which means his next contract would be a restricted FA contract anyways so the team isn't really worried about him leaving, while that concern exists with Bosh so there's more so look at in that way and with Bosh on the team Bargs is only a secondary player and his contract won't be too much compared to Bosh and the worry about money is less of a factor, and if Bosh doesn't resign then we got plenty of money to throw at bargs, so in that case there really isn't too much to worry about a Bargs contract
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don't they complement each other? they're capable of putting up 20+ppg; known as the Raps' Killer B's anyone? Bosh may have a weak 3-pointers (but has mid-rangers) but he's better in the low than Bargs. Bargs is weaker on the low but has range than Bosh. how can that not work? it worked for the Spurs (Duncan+Robinson), how can it not work for us?
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Because comparing Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani to Tim Duncan and David Robinson is like comparing soy burgers to beef burgers.
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don't they complement each other? they're capable of putting up 20+ppg; known as the Raps' Killer B's anyone? Bosh may have a weak 3-pointers (but has mid-rangers) but he's better in the low than Bargs. Bargs is weaker on the low but has range than Bosh. how can that not work? it worked for the Spurs (Duncan+Robinson), how can it not work for us?
your comparing bosh/bargs to Duncan/Robinson???
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don't they complement each other? they're capable of putting up 20+ppg; known as the Raps' Killer B's anyone? Bosh may have a weak 3-pointers (but has mid-rangers) but he's better in the low than Bargs. Bargs is weaker on the low but has range than Bosh. how can that not work? it worked for the Spurs (Duncan+Robinson), how can it not work for us?
I was going to say its like comparing silcon to the real thing but whatever floats your breasts---I mean boat.
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don't they complement each other? they're capable of putting up 20+ppg; known as the Raps' Killer B's anyone? Bosh may have a weak 3-pointers (but has mid-rangers) but he's better in the low than Bargs. Bargs is weaker on the low but has range than Bosh. how can that not work? it worked for the Spurs (Duncan+Robinson), how can it not work for us?
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the day Bargnani draws a double team is when we know he's arrived.
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I've said I like Bosh Bargs and Marion in the frontcourt, and my reasoning has to do with defense primarily. Marion completes that frontcourt on both ends.
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comparing bosh/bargs to duncan/robinson is the best joke i've read today
you're comparing 2 bigs that play zero defense to 2 other bigs that are possibly 1 of the best defensive duos ever
you're comparing 2 bigs that are basically jump shooters at like the mid to long distance to 2 guys that are dominant low post players
and its basically just a disgrace to the latter 2 because 1 of them is possibly the greatest PF of all time and the other is 1 of the top centers of all time and a top 50 greatest players of all time
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duncan + robinson IS one the best defensive duos of all time (not possibly)
but keep in mind that our Bs can become (and I'm serious) the best offensive duo of all time. If they can improve their defense, they could be a nightmare matchup, much more so than howard/lewis is - and we're seeing the potential for damage such a frontcourt has.
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