Andrea the All-Star
Old 01-09-2012, 07:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In grade 8 I remember getting a Andrea Bargnani jersey for my birthday and wearing it on the first day of school. People thought I was absurd for wanting this guys jersey. Ever since the Raptors drafted him first overall in 2005, people have been bashing him. Having Andrea compared to Dirk Nowitizki was one of the only things that kept Raptors fans from losing their minds. He was horrible on the defensive end and for a guy who was a 7 footer, he hardly got any rebounds.

In his rookie season he averaged 11.6 points a game and 3.6 rebounds a game.

Through eight games this year, Andrea is averaging 22.8 points a game and 6.4 rebounds a game.
A thing to note about Bargs is that every year in the NBA, he has slowly but surely improved his game.

New Raptors coach, defensive specialist, Dwayne Casey has challenged him to at least pick up two rebounds a quarter. With the new coaching system in place, it will help him significantly improve his game on a daily basis.

Now the question that has been floating around the Toronto media is whether Andrea should make the All-Star team or not. Personally, I think he should only make it IF he continues to play at this high level on a CONSISTENT basis.

What separates a great player from an all-star caliber player is consistency. Eight games is too early to tell if he can keep his performance up. Through this short NBA season a lot of things can happen, injuries, fatigue etc. Every off season or trade deadline tons of people always want Bargnani traded. The thing is that I can guarantee he will never be traded as long as Bryan Colangelo is GM. General Mangers don’t like giving up on players they have drafted themselves, especially a first overall pick. It looks bad for them and shouts, “I messed up.”

He’s almost just a un-athletic version of Kevin Durant who arguable has a better mid range shot. Similar to Andrea, coming into the NBA Durant needed to upgrade his defense to take his play to another level.

If you actually compare their stat lines this season, they are eerily similar. Now of course I would prefer Durant over Bargnani any day of the week but it’s just some food for thought.
The number on Andrea comparison is obviously Dirk Nowitizki. Both 7 footers who are jump shot specialists. Both use the pump fake as an art and get the defender to go for the shot block all the time.

Good luck trying to block a 7 footer shooting a jump shot. More times than not it won’t happen.
If he ever panned out to be the player Dirk is now, Raptors fans have a lot to look forward to.
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He is moving in the right direction but a long way to go
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Agreed for sure, it's still early in his career.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He'll be an AS this year.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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He will make the allstar team this year.

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does he make it as a PF or centre?
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Does he make it as a PF or centre?
PF?
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No way he makes it, at forward you have amare, carmelo, lebron and pierce and howard and chandler at c. Wade, rose, deron and rondo will be guards. That leaves 2 spots, and coaches will choose from winning teams. Bosh, kg, granger, jj, horford,igoudala, noah ... too many good names. We'd have to be around .500 for andrea to have a shot.
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No way he makes it, at forward you have amare, carmelo, lebron and pierce and howard and chandler at c. Wade, rose, deron and rondo will be guards. That leaves 2 spots, and coaches will choose from winning teams. Bosh, kg, granger, jj, horford,igoudala, noah ... too many good names. We'd have to be around .500 for andrea to have a shot.
next season andrea will be an all star, and we'll be 4th seed by the all star break.. quote it

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No way he makes it, at forward you have amare, carmelo, lebron and pierce and howard and chandler at c. Wade, rose, deron and rondo will be guards. That leaves 2 spots, and coaches will choose from winning teams. Bosh, kg, granger, jj, horford,igoudala, noah ... too many good names. We'd have to be around .500 for andrea to have a shot.
Regardless of the Raptors position in the standings, if Bargnani continues to play th way he is, he will be rewarded as a reserve in the All Star game.

Pierce? Granger? Igoudala?

Come on..
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Regardless of the Raptors position in the standings, if Bargnani continues to play th way he is, he will be rewarded as a reserve in the All Star game.

Pierce? Granger? Igoudala?

Come on..
Popularity contest..
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Big ups to you on wearing a Bargs jersey 5 years back! +1
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Forwards for East will be

LeBron, Melo, Amare, Bosh, and ????
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LeBron, Melo, Amare, Bosh, and ????
pretty much, I say Bargs takes Bosh place, man if that ever happend, TDOT would go crazy!
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Love how he's playing, but if he continues at this level, he deserves to be on the AS team
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Regardless of the Raptors position in the standings, if Bargnani continues to play th way he is, he will be rewarded as a reserve in the All Star game.

Pierce? Granger? Igoudala?

Come on..
And he mentioned Noah and Chandler, and neither will make the All-Star team. Bargnani has a much better shot than either of those guys, and if he continues his high-level of play the coaches will choose him for the game.

But given the shortened season, it may be best for Bargnani to take the time off and rest.
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Nope, reserves are chosen by coaches
Traditionally, coaches prefer players from winning teams ... that's why you had players like ben wallace getting picked
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I've never taken mine off....
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Nope, reserves are chosen by coaches
Traditionally, coaches prefer players from winning teams ... that's why you had players like ben wallace getting picked
i would also think coaches more biased towards reputations. and i doubt they really give it too much thought. probably just look at the list of names and pick which ever pops in their mind first
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