Amir, Rasho and Antoine Wright
Old 02-10-2010, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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as all three of them become unrestricted free agents I wonder, if the Raptors want to keep them do they have to use their salary exceptions on them? or do they have bird rights or something.. on Amir and Wright.
I know not on Rasho because he is on a one year deal.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Colangelo wants to sign Amir long term. I think I read that on here not too long ago.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Johnson definitely seems like a keeper. I don't think he would command too much money - he kind of reminds me of a better Kris Humphries. Hopefully Colangelo gets him to sign a simliar deal.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Antoine.

and sorry, 4thquarter, i have no idea about the financial logistics re: those guys.
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We're gonna need Amir long-term, not only as our guy off the bench but as insurance if Bosh rolls out this summer. I doubt Rasho is back, we haven't found much use for him even though I'd like to see him a bit more, and there was talk of him going to Europe so I don't know how happy he is here anyways. If this is the real Antoine Wright and he's here to stay, I'd love to see him resigned.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i'm thinking amor will be looking in the $5 mil range. i don't know that he deserves it, but if he is a key piece in a playoff success he might be able to get it from someone. the only thing in our favour is that not many teams want to spend $. but a defensive big who is young and mobile will attract decent money.
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ok. my take was if they're unrestricted - according to 2010-2011 NBA free agency - ESPN - then they're both not on the back end of their rookie contract. So I'm guessing no bird rights.

Which would mean we'd have to sign Amir to MLE, right? I hope not, hope there's some bird rights on his contract...

hope the same about Wright actually. Even if he's just a role player back up, might be useful for trades as well
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I think we have bird rights on both Wright and Amir.
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Amr is worth keeping, he makes 3 mill now, I can see a similar amour of money over 4 years or so, anything above 4.5 is too high, don't forget we got Reggie this year and next
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i'm thinking amor will be looking in the $5 mil range. i don't know that he deserves it, but if he is a key piece in a playoff success he might be able to get it from someone. the only thing in our favour is that not many teams want to spend $. but a defensive big who is young and mobile will attract decent money.
$5 mil is too high especially with a falling cap, everyone's salary will go down except for star players or players playing above they're current contract
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Just say if Bosh resigns. Aren't the Raptors up against the Luxury tax and wouldn't it problably cost the Raptors the dollar for dollar if they want Amir and Wright?
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$5 mil is too high especially with a falling cap, everyone's salary will go down except for star players or players playing above they're current contract
nope not too high.

Raptors payrole is peanuts compared to contenders. Amir at 5 is probably a bargain in the long run if he keeps it up, more of bargain than Jack imo and I wouldn't be surprised he gets even better offers with 2010 being crazy and some teams probably desperate.
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I think we have bird rights on both Wright and Amir.
Ok, hope you're right. It depends on nr of years the contract was right?
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Just say if Bosh resigns. Aren't the Raptors up against the Luxury tax and wouldn't it problably cost the Raptors the dollar for dollar if they want Amir and Wright?
payroll is 63M if Bosh would pick up his option. not sure how much more a max is maybe a couple million? I think the lux tax cap is around 70M atm.
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payroll is 63M if Bosh would pick up his option. not sure how much more a max is maybe a couple million? I think the lux tax cap is around 70M atm.
Ya and that will problably fall judging by the owners now crying poor, attendance and stern whining. Looks like MLSE may have to make a very important financial decision and I can't wait to hear what it is
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Ok, hope you're right. It depends on nr of years the contract was right?
Isn't Wright still on his existing rookie contract? I thought he was.

As for Amir, Detroit gave him a 3 year extension I think. This is his last year.

I think what we could what'll happen is Calderon traded to free up some space and perhaps Banks being dealt for space as well. With that cap money, both Amir and Wright will be resigned with the Raps picking up a backup PG along the way.
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Ya and that will problably fall judging by the owners now crying poor, attendance and stern whining. Looks like MLSE may have to make a very important financial decision and I can't wait to hear what it is
I've read BC quotes on this forum that for the right guys and with succes looming (paraphrase) MLSE would go into the lux tax.

I agree the cap may be going down but I don't think the same counts for the lux tax necessarily. Teams that are now over will complain and if they can veto they will. Anyway there's speculation about a lot of things. But not so much about the notion that big payroll's equals better chance at winning it all and every GM and ownership knows it.
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Isn't Wright still on his existing rookie contract? I thought he was.
idk. All I know is espn qualified him as unrestricted FA so I kinda deducted that he wasn't. maybe I'm wrong but I thought all expiring rookie contracts were Restricted FA's.
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wouldnt you guys perfer Haywood??
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idk. All I know is espn qualified him as unrestricted FA so I kinda deducted that he wasn't. maybe I'm wrong but I thought all expiring rookie contracts were Restricted FA's.
Wright is an UFA.

New jersey never picked up his fourth year option.

In the summer of 2008 he signed a two year deal with Dallas.
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In order to outline the specifics of what we're dealing with, these are the clauses:

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Larry Bird exception
Perhaps the most well-known of the NBA's salary cap exceptions, it is so named because the Boston Celtics were the first team permitted to exceed the salary cap to re-sign one of their own players (in that case, Larry Bird). Free agents who qualify for this exception are called "qualifying veteran free agents" or "Bird Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception falls under the auspices of the Veteran Free Agent exception. In essence, the Larry Bird exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, at an amount up to the maximum salary. To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination thereof. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. Bird-exception contracts can be up to six years in length.
Thus, we should definitely have bird's rights on Amir and Wright. In 2007, Amir signed a 3 year deal. He has not been waived since then. His bird's rights were traded from Detroit to Milwaukee and then to the Raptors. As for Wright, he has not been waived, either. He has played more than 3 seasons without changing teams as a free agent. He was traded from New jersey to Dallas, as part of the Jason Kidd deal. He then chose to sign a two year extension with the Mavs, who had his "early bird rights" (which is another sub-category of bird's rights).
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