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Old 10-23-2013, 09:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The improvement this dude has made since Triano left has been steady, consistent, and fulfilling of his promise in a step by step fashion. If anybody is going to continue to assess his play based on the week handles and slow footedness and poor defense has their head stuck up their ass after binging on a meal from 2009. Just take a really good shit and you'll feel much better. Make sure you let out all the gas as well.

And no i'm not saying he's the next coming of Kobe. Don't send those nasty farts this way. There are plenty of teams that would love to find a way to get this guy. Doc wanted him this summer. Zach Lowe noted the interest league-wide in his last piece. He is still young, continues to get better, and has always played hard and looked to compete. If he gets a taste of winning in this league, watch out. It could make the Rudy acquisition look worthwhile, and then make Rudy look expendable soon enough.
Yes, this taste of winning you speak of will cure all ails!

sounds like a load of hot air coming from you know what. Breathe it in.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes, this taste of winning you speak of will cure all ails!

sounds like a load of hot air coming from you know what. Breathe it in.
Where did i suggest there was a need for a cure? We got that already by expunging you know who.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Carp is as critical of DD as I was of Bargs, except I actually bring up stats. I think we've all recognized DD has improved and is a hard worker, but he still has far to go defensively, his 3pt % needs to be at least 33 %. I am sure that I am not the only one who has worries when our wings have the ball in their hands or when they handle the ball. KL, Amir and JV are just so much better. They're efficient, play well pretty well defensively and if either of them got injured for an extended period of time there'd be little hope for a playoff run. RG and DD are part of the stealth tank. Another part of the stealth tank is that if Amir, KL or even JV go down the vehicle will commence. Now that being said, in the situation where any one of KL, DD, RG or even Amir (hopefully not him though) are dealt then hopefully it's for something reasonable and not just capspace or a 2nd rounder + a fringe starter. KL I think could be dealt as this summer, he will get paid. I've heard that the free agent class of 2014 has little to offer PG wise and SG wise. In that situation KL will get his $$$. RG is his own thing cuz of the PO. I hope no matter what MU goes in2 asset accumulation mode getting picks and also acquiring decent role players who perform their role quite well and are not overpaid, like TH and the case can be made for Novak too.
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Stealth tank huh? Oh, so sneaky. And yet your radar caught it without a problem, almost as if that radar was creating evidence of a solid object that did not exist at all.
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Yes, this taste of winning you speak of will cure all ails!

sounds like a load of hot air coming from you know what. Breathe it in.
Says the dude who had a constant hard-on for bargs...
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He definitely looks more competent and confident as a scorer. Trading him now would be silly, he's gonna have a breakout year.

Nonetheless, he better add another dimension to his game soon...
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Stealth tank huh? Oh, so sneaky. And yet your radar caught it without a problem, almost as if that radar was creating evidence of a solid object that did not exist at all.
It's an idea that's been going around by me and others in the Raptor fan community. And there are plenty of fans with the same thoughts but just haven't called it that.
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Says the dude who had a constant hard-on for bargs...
had? pfffft.
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He definitely looks more competent and confident as a scorer. Trading him now would be silly, he's gonna have a breakout year.

Nonetheless, he better add another dimension to his game soon...
I remember you loathing DD completely and bashing him whenever you got the chance, ala carp. sudden change huh?
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I remember you loathing DD completely and bashing him whenever you got the chance, ala carp. sudden change huh?
I've given him credit while bashing him, unlike some that just acknowledge his positives with unabashed love. Why start calling others out now as if you're all-knowing?
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I remember you loathing DD completely and bashing him whenever you got the chance, ala carp. sudden change huh?
I just said he better add another dimension to his game, and complimented his scoring. Almost Corey Maggette, not there yet tho.
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I've given him credit while bashing him, unlike some that just acknowledge his positives with unabashed love. Why start calling others out now as if you're all-knowing?
meh I call people out all the time and nitpick too.
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I just said he better add another dimension to his game, and complimented his scoring. Almost Corey Maggette, not there yet tho.
I could see him becoming like Magette... which isn't a great thing given expectations for this guy.
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I remember you loathing DD completely and bashing him whenever you got the chance, ala carp. sudden change huh?
Insert eyeroll.

Everyone recognizes what DD brings to the table in the aspect to scoring - (like getting to the line, some mid-range game there and some work in the post as well). And even the biggest DD supporter recognizes that he needs to really improve his 3 pt shot (I'd be quite happy with 33% at least). The issue is what he does outside of scoring (ballhandling, d, shot creation, some decision making (like contested long 2s), one can argue rebounding as well). And that is where the critique truly comes in. And going into his 5th season being a starter for 3 straight years and a quasi starter (ie not 30 minutes+) in his 1st season, the critique is warranted. And if the team is going to make a truly significant leap (for example - losing in a really tight series with say NYK or Brookyln as the 5th/6th seed (instead of getting destroyed by the Heat as the 8th seed) then DD has to make significant progress in multiple assets of the game that is basketball.
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Insert eyeroll.

Everyone recognizes what DD brings to the table in the aspect to scoring - (like getting to the line, some mid-range game there and some work in the post as well). And even the biggest DD supporter recognizes that he needs to really improve his 3 pt shot (I'd be quite happy with 33% at least). The issue is what he does outside of scoring (ballhandling, d, shot creation, some decision making (like contested long 2s), one can argue rebounding as well). And that is where the critique truly comes in. And going into his 5th season being a starter for 3 straight years and a quasi starter (ie not 30 minutes+) in his 1st season, the critique is warranted. And if the team is going to make a truly significant leap (for example - losing in a really tight series with say NYK or Brookyln as the 5th/6th seed (instead of getting destroyed by the Heat as the 8th seed) then DD has to make significant progress in multiple assets of the game that is basketball.
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I could see him becoming like Magette... which isn't a great thing given expectations for this guy.
I mean Maggette averaged over 20 a few times in his career, and got to 5 rebounds a couple of times as well.
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Insert eyeroll.

Everyone recognizes what DD brings to the table in the aspect to scoring - (like getting to the line, some mid-range game there and some work in the post as well). And even the biggest DD supporter recognizes that he needs to really improve his 3 pt shot (I'd be quite happy with 33% at least). The issue is what he does outside of scoring (ballhandling, d, shot creation, some decision making (like contested long 2s), one can argue rebounding as well). And that is where the critique truly comes in. And going into his 5th season being a starter for 3 straight years and a quasi starter (ie not 30 minutes+) in his 1st season, the critique is warranted. And if the team is going to make a truly significant leap (for example - losing in a really tight series with say NYK or Brookyln as the 5th/6th seed (instead of getting destroyed by the Heat as the 8th seed) then DD has to make significant progress in multiple assets of the game that is basketball.

his ball handling isn't nearly as bad as you all make it out to be. defence isn't great, but he's not a liability anymore. Plus his whole career minus casey's first season the whole team's defensive scheme was toilet (triano anyone?). as for decision making, you're telling me he hasn't improved? he averages one of the highest fta per game in the league doesn't he? plus a lot of the mid range shots have to do with the team's offensive scheme. it's a team sport.

also, you guys bash him and all, but honest to god name me 10 sg better than him in the league. go ahead
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his ball handling isn't nearly as bad as you all make it out to be. defence isn't great, but he's not a liability anymore. Plus his whole career minus casey's first season the whole team's defensive scheme was toilet (triano anyone?). as for decision making, you're telling me he hasn't improved? he averages one of the highest fta per game in the league doesn't he? plus a lot of the mid range shots have to do with the team's offensive scheme. it's a team sport.

also, you guys bash him and all, but honest to god name me 10 sg better than him in the league. go ahead
It's not that great either. That's very arguable. Out of the starting 5 I'd say he is the liability on the defensive end. You're missing my point. He has improved his decision making yes and he has made these improvements but if the Raps aren't a privileged team oodling with talent for him to make this uber gradual improvements. If the Raps are to be make a significant jump he has to be more than a scorer. FTAs are his main strength - no one has denied this so I don't know why you're bringing that up. Do you think getting to line is the only thing that has to do with decision making? Yes, it is a good decision for him to use HIS GREATEST STRENGTH on the court (4.3/5.2 per game). If he didn't use his greatest strength on the court that'd be a problem. It would be like if Amir decided not to do anything on help d. Also, you pull the trump card on DD of the horrid coaching of JT and DC (currently). Well, can that not be applied to TR as well?

You and I have already had the run around on DD in the past (many months ago) and we've come to an accord/understanding of what he can do, that he has made improvements even though they may not be massive, and what he still has to improve.

Have you ever seen his stats on bref?

Bash him? I'm providing a critique. I'm not saying he's a s**t player or anything like that. But maybe I should just think everything's fine with DD and that he has no glaring holes in his game which require a lot of work.

Honest to god - but you're not religious...
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:47 AM   #40 (permalink)
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anybody else notice the advertising this season its mainly focusing on demar, all of them end with demar being the focus of the team

looks like rudy is on the way out,

demar has better handles this year its noticeable, and his shot looks better to, Im not sure how its all going to play itself out in the season but it looks promising coming from the guy who always wanted demar traded since the first season

those were the two main things that made me angry about him, if your going to be strictly a offensive player you have to have the full range of shooting and also the handles to get into the lane and create havoc otherwise whats the point of having the guy if he cant do that we would be better off with a 3 and d guy for 1/4 the price
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