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Old 08-23-2008, 06:52 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Gasol is the disappearing man in clutch moments, backs down physically when challenged and i question his toughness at all times.
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:14 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I have not posted that much on this site...I think twice so far. Anywase, I am watching the final match. Regardless...regardless...this will only be GOOD for Bosh, and Only good for Jose. I know that both of these super stars will take away from this (overall) experience the most beneficial attributes, and will, use this experience to up their game even further to assist the Raptors in becoming the Team that was anicipated for 2008/2009. I...as a Toronto fan, for all sports, feel that I deserve a very good result as a Raptor fan. I appreciate all educated posted, I truly do, and I appreciate OUR super star's effort in making their home country's flag fly high.

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Old 08-24-2008, 04:16 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Yes... I agree...'Thank You Spain'...and Thank You Chris Bosh, Jose Calderon....

Hehe, I like that 'no one, no one, has tested them like Spain tonight'
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:39 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Really good final game. America on top again but Spain definately made a case that it isnt as far ahead as it seems. Either Spain is way better offensively then previous games, held something back in previous or something else, but the USA's D just wasnt there, they could still score, but the bigs on Spain played great and Narvarro was excellent.

USA back on top where they belong tho
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:11 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Jesus Christ.

Why do you think they had a horrid shooting percentage??????

You guys will give NO credit to the Americans ever.

I HATE the US, but I ain't dumb. They are Elite in a tourney full of good teams. ELITE.

I watched almost all that game, it was NEVER close.
I think the final pretty much proved my point - it was a 4 pt game with 2 minutes left, and USA had to make some clutch shots down the stretch (which to their credit they made). They couldn't defend the 3 in the final, luckily for them they manage to make a lot of their own.

And I'm not saying that Calderon would have made a difference, but who knows - the reality is that without their best point guard, Spain kept it close right to the end. It's a lot closer than it looks in the blowouts - elimination games are tough.
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:33 PM   #86 (permalink)
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OK, so it's time for me to make amends, right? Right?

First off, congratualtions to the Americans, both on winning the gold and on proving me wrong, though they might not have been aware of the latter accomplishment. For the record, I shouldn't have started this thread to begin with, since my personal history shows I am really bad in published predictions. Nevertheless, the credit is due where it's due - I was wrong and Americans didn't lose once during these Olympics.

Having said that, and not to make it sound too much like an excuse - add Jose and subtract Kobe and USA loses this final game, I am sure of that. Rubio was hurt early on, Lopez sucked donkey balls and Spain, in essense, was reduced to having Navarro and Fernandez play point for long stretches. And Kobe... wow... his play after that timeout, and especially the 4-point play that fouled out Fernandez, were absolutely essential in preserving the lead. The final score is meaningless because of all the FTs at the end - it was a very close game throughout and Kobe broke it open in the end. That, and they made some threes - go figure, but so did the Spaniards, with both teams shooting like shit earlier in the tourney.

So, once again, congratulations to both teams for an excellent Finals game. Much respect earned there, kudos to their competitiveness and their guts, and I expect to see both of these squads in a re-match in 4 years in London.

As a P.S. - a question to our Spanish friends - why is it that many of the Spaniards (like Rubio or Fernandez, for instance) chose to have their first names (not last names) on the back of their jerseys?

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Old 08-24-2008, 03:55 PM   #87 (permalink)
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As a P.S. - a question to our Spanish friends - why is it that many of the Spaniards (like Rubio or Fernandez, for instance) chose to have their first names (not last names) on the back of their jerseys?
I have no idea, but Ricky and Rudy are more familiar. Their true names are Ricardo and Rodolfo, so I supose its more like using a nickname instead of their last names.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:33 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Game was never in doubt, and you all know it.
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:22 PM   #89 (permalink)
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The game was never in doubt while Bosh was in there. But really it came down to the US hitting their threes, and they did. But if anyone asked me before it started if the game would never be in doubt if that was the case, then I would say if Spain played well it would very much be in doubt, or certainly not a sure thing.

Spain was a few bad turnovers away from making the US panic much more than they did. With Calderon in there who knows? You give Spain a small lead instead of a 2 point deficit going into the crunch, and some of those US threes might have been tight.

But I hand it to the US for playing the right way throughout the whole summer and being ready for what was a pretty good challenge and a very nice game from both sides.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:13 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Game was never in doubt, and you all know it.
Sure it was. I doubted the outcome since before the tourney started, then again right before the game - and I still believe Spain had a chance. Didn't the game itself teach you anything?
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:26 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Game was never in doubt, and you all know it.
It used to be "US team is going to win for 20 or more" ... damn, the tale has changed heeheh
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:47 AM   #92 (permalink)
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What they win by??

10 or something.

Yes, it taught me that in the Gold medal game, where the opposition would be playing the hardest they have ever played, ever. The US would still go wire to wire and never lose. Not only that, they'd win by 10, and not 20, but hey, every team has an off day.

Why won't people admit they were superior, and honestly, that wasn't even the best team available to be in Beijing.
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The final score means zip. When you start marching to the freethrow line like that due to the need to stop the clock and whatever else, you're not getting a sense of how close it was with the score. This game was consistently in single digits, right up to that final parade of charity shots.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:27 PM   #94 (permalink)
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meh.

if I had money I would have gladly betted it ALL.

maybe thats just me, but I can see the facts when they are in front of me.
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Game was never in doubt, and you all know it.
I take it you didn't actually watch it then ...
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:16 PM   #96 (permalink)
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it was an easy game. The US didn't play thier best.
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Old 08-25-2008, 03:48 PM   #97 (permalink)
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it was an easy game. The US didn't play thier best.
They shot 60.0% from the floor and 46.4% from three. Not their best? I doubt that very much. In fact, if you look at the entire tournament, they shot much better in the final game than in any previous contests - and it was barely enough.
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:04 PM   #98 (permalink)
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shot well.

defended like crap

didnt' create in transition, especially off forced turnovers.

no worries.

its over.

on to the season for me
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:31 AM   #99 (permalink)
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They had by far the worst defensive game i have seen them play since the Olympic qualifying to friendlies in vegas, i mean literally it was so bad it was shameful, yet they still won and never trailed for more then the entire 2nd half of the game. Spain played very, very well, and players you dont expect to step up huge like Narvarro had big games. But seriously, it was by far the worst defensive game in years for them and they still won and at clutch time took a small lead into an over 10 point lead.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:27 AM   #100 (permalink)
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shot well.

defended like crap

didnt' create in transition, especially off forced turnovers.
So if the other teams play bad is because US team play fine, but it doen't work the other way, whatever.
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