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Old 08-04-2008, 02:27 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Spain will get pummeled by 20+ just like any other team USA will face.

the way I see it when it comes to talent and determination,

USA



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Argentina

the rest

IMHO no team has a chance against the USA this year, and for anyone that wishes to cheer for any other team, be prepared for disappointment and embarrassment.

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haha, i prety much agree with everything stated here. Except i put Greece in that mix with Spain and Argentina, but like the OG said, they are well below USA this year.

For all you true euro's. Remember how embarrassing it was when Greece won the Euro cup out of nowhere? I get the feeling the Americans are feeling that ten fold and prepared to not only win, but embarrass.

BTW i'd like to add that so far on and off the court the Americans have been a classy bunch, showing other teams respect, but still looking to prove a point, GO USA!!
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:50 AM   #22 (permalink)
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lol not sure if thats sarcasm or not. I dont think the rest of the world sucks at basketball, i just think USA is by far the most talanted and if they can get their S%# together, i dont see a team that can compete. Time will tell
it wasnt a joke. i think usa will take gold with big advantage.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:56 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Spain will get pummeled by 20+ just like any other team USA will face.

the way I see it when it comes to talent and determination,

USA



Spain
Argentina

the rest

IMHO no team has a chance against the USA this year, and for anyone that wishes to cheer for any other team, be prepared for disappointment and embarrassment.

Lebron- "they stole our bike, and now we're coming to get it back"
We will see.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The US is by far the best athletically in the Olympics they should easily win...but the great thing about Euro basketball is that, similarly to NCAA ball, a great shooting team can take down any powerhouse, if spain or argentina (without ginobili unlikely) catches fire...I.E.(Rudy, Jose, Navarro, Garbo) and they get solid frontcourt performances from the Gasol bro's Spain could definitely take US, international basketball isn't like the NBA, as soon as that three point arc is moved in, anyone can win on any given day
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:42 AM   #25 (permalink)
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One thing that you shouldn't forget is that even if the USA would be a 5 to 1 favorite to win against spain, argentine and co., they would still only have a 50% chance of winning 3 games in a row with these odds.

Sure, just like the Celtics, USA is dominating the "regular season" (i.e. friendlies), but the olympics are not played "best of 7" style. You need to win ALL elimination games, and even the Celtics lost three games against lowly Atlanta ... While the americans have by far the best chances to win, compared to any other team, I'm not sure they have better than 50% odds of winning against all other teams combined.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:01 AM   #26 (permalink)
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so what you are saying is that the best team on the day wins
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I think this team USA is the most closest team to the Dream Team. I can't see Americans loosing this gold medal but I still hope that Greece can emparass them again. And I really hope that in our first match USA wins by 20+ points. ;-)
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:11 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well, looks like we have a live thread that is not about grammar.

I understand all the reasoning of Team USA supporters. I truly believe that the best team of the best American players put together to win can win anything, I just don't believe that the current team is that team.

They lack bigs. Howard seems to be having problems with the coach. Bosh, despite getting praises from the coaching staff, looks to be out of game shape and Boozer is, well, Boozer, someone who needs to touch the ball often to be effective. In fact, scratch that - all three of them need to ball in the post at least every so often, otherwise who can blame them for losing their interest somewhat?!

By the time these star guards and forwards realize they can't win outside-in against top teams, it will be too late.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:37 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Another case in point - todays win vs. Australia. It's got to be a wake-up call for the coaching staff, not only because of the relatively narrow margin of victory, but also because of the shots distribution.

Anthony took 14 shots, Kobe - 10, Wade - 13 and LeBron - 11: that's 48 out of 64 shots taken by the entire squad! Compare these numbers to 7 shots taken by Bosh and Howard combined and look at the shooting percentages - you will see the big picture I am talking about.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Another case in point - todays win vs. Australia. It's got to be a wake-up call for the coaching staff, not only because of the relatively narrow margin of victory, but also because of the shots distribution.

Anthony took 14 shots, Kobe - 10, Wade - 13 and LeBron - 11: that's 48 out of 64 shots taken by the entire squad! Compare these numbers to 7 shots taken by Bosh and Howard combined and look at the shooting percentages - you will see the big picture I am talking about.
There in lies the problem with American Basketball, it is a guard driven game.

It makes for exciting basketball at times but it is not effective against solid team basketball.

Even the original dream team worked to inside mcuh more than the last couple of US teams.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:59 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hollinger essentially alluded to the same problem during his last interview for ESPN. He pointed out the fact that Russians dominated the glass against USA and mentioned that the Americans' success will largely depend on how well LBJ and Melo play PF.
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REally, if the team just plays fundamental basketball, use their bigs a bit more and dont just attack the defenses one on one there is no way any team in the world could beat them. Anthony and LBJ at the 4 or not, makes no difference. European game needs mobile big men and the US has the best.

LBJ is only 1 inch shorter than Malone and weighs the same.......
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LBJ is only 1 inch shorter than Malone and weighs the same.......
Yes, yes, they've repeated it over and over again. Does this make him a post player? Or, more importantly, a post defender?
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I think Lebron could hold his own against Garbo, Scola, etc...
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Yeah cause Sammy D will kill the Americans on the inside....


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Old 08-05-2008, 01:24 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think Lebron could hold his own against Garbo, Scola, etc...
Against Garbo, he could do, Garbo uses to play at the perimeter in the attack, but against Scola, that's a whole new animal. Scola uses to play on the paint and is very skilled. Lebron hasn't Scola's experience on the paint.
But the same happens in the other end, Scola couldn't defend Lebron at the perimeter.

If that match happens, it's going to be interesting.
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I would like nothing more than to see the Americans lose, but I don't think it's going to happen. In a close game in crunch time when it very much becomes a guard's game, I think they'll be too much to handle.

BTW Bosh's ability to guard smaller, quicker players on the perimeter never ceases to amaze me.
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Against Garbo, he could do, Garbo uses to play at the perimeter in the attack, but against Scola, that's a whole new animal. Scola uses to play on the paint and is very skilled. Lebron hasn't Scola's experience on the paint.
But the same happens in the other end, Scola couldn't defend Lebron at the perimeter.

If that match happens, it's going to be interesting.
I think if a player is a good defender-see James, L- then it doesnt matter where you are positioned. Nobody is pushing Lebron around that he would need to cover on defense and although someone like Scola is very skilled inside the paint if Lebron decided to could easily shut him down.

Size, athleticism, strength-all the tools to be an absolute lockdown defender.
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BTW Bosh's ability to guard smaller, quicker players on the perimeter never ceases to amaze me.

Its his ability to gaurd stronger players on the inside that has always been his achillies heel....
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