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Old 11-29-2012, 05:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I agree with this assertion too.

I'm as frustrated with this team as ever; we were expected to be better than this and even possibly challenge for the 8th seed. But there's a few ridiculous gaping holes in our roster that, in hindsight, were massive red flags.

1. We have no star players.
2. We have no "tough" players
3. We have a massive, gaping hole at the 3 position
4. We don't have many "give a shit" / "can't stand to lose" players
5. Two of our rotation players, including our starting center are rookies, and raw ones at that.

plus, we've had a brutal schedule to start the season.
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Aside form Valanciunas, who's 20 years old and coming from the different international game, and Lowry, who is coming back from a nagging injury, we don't have guys who really give a shit. We have guys who come in and do their job but don't kill themselves if they don't win.

Unfortunately, we are stocked with guys who are talented but not that versatile and aren't consistent -- DeRozan, Calderon, Johnson, etc. We don't have a single player (aside maybe from a 100% healthy Lowry) who's a talented 2-way player and doesn't have many weaknesses.

DeRozan can't create that much off the dribble, Jose doesn't penetrate except on the odd fast break, Amir Johnson can't score when he's not in the pick and roll, Andrea is good one game then terrible the next, etc.

We also can't underestimate the fact that we have the worst, most pathetic starters at the 3 position in the league. Dominic McGuire, Alan Anderson, and a gimpy Landry Fields do NOT get the job done in a league where most teams got deeper and more talented the last couple of years. We play most of the game 4 on 5, and it shows. Why do I get giddy when McGuire or Anderson score one bucket? What the fuck is wrong with Kleiza by the way?

The past few years we've been one of those shitty, mediocre teams that's all offense so we won games when we shot the lights out, and lost the rest. We made a change to balance the team a bit more with the coach and, in theory, a couple players we picked up and we looked like we'd make teams sweat with our first few games of the season, but it all went downhill from there. We've lost two games in OT and two games by 2 points or less. Clearly we have a number of problems; closing out games is just another one of them.
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Guys that give a shit: Valanciunas, Lowry, Calderon, Kleiza, Derozan (imo he hates to lose)

The rest of the team run hot and cold when it comes to giving a shit imo.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Guys that give a shit: Valanciunas, Lowry, Calderon, Kleiza, Derozan (imo he hates to lose)

The rest of the team run hot and cold when it comes to giving a shit imo.
Maybe they can start these 5 for a game and see how their concerns reflect in the court..JC(1),Lowry(2),DD(3),Kleiza(4),JV(5)
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Maybe they can start these 5 for a game and see how their concerns reflect in the court..JC(1),Lowry(2),DD(3),Kleiza(4),JV(5)
No!

Bad enough we have to see 2pg lineups at all but for that to be the starting lineup Casey would've truly lost his mind. We'd also be disadvantaged at PF. DD also looks much better at SG.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:13 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No!

Bad enough we have to see 2pg lineups at all but for that to be the starting lineup Casey would've truly lost his mind. We'd also be disadvantaged at PF. DD also looks much better at SG.
Lol,I agree...I despise the 2 pg for starters....but I think there's no harm in trying it for a bit during a game. Just to see what u get out of it.

Lol at the quick response tho
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Lol,I agree...I despise the 2 pg for starters....but I think there's no harm in trying it for a bit during a game. Just to see what u get out of it.

Lol at the quick response tho
thanks.

it's just, nothing is right with this team. the three scoring options never have a good game together. not feeding or playing the hot hand (not playing ED against SAS and not feeding Bargs the ball at the end of the game against Detroit). Defensive lapses, 2 pg lineups, McGuire being used as a dead man's marion to play alongside Bargs, insane inconsistent minutes for LKZ, amir shooting 3s. just so many problems.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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thanks.

it's just, nothing is right with this team. the three scoring options never have a good game together. not feeding or playing the hot hand (not playing ED against SAS and not feeding Bargs the ball at the end of the game against Detroit). Defensive lapses, 2 pg lineups, McGuire being used as a dead man's marion to play alongside Bargs, insane inconsistent minutes for LKZ, amir shooting 3s. just so many problems.
Its sad,its all true...and when put like that,it seems like one big Circus. Then they go out and sign Pietrus to eat up minutes from Ross after TR had his best game recently. I still believe they can turn around,its still November but they need to start doing the right things now. Pietrus can help but I just fear he's more concerned with staying in the NBA and getting a pay check.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:23 AM   #27 (permalink)
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We just signed Pietrus so, in true Raptors fashion he'll probably be starting tonight.

With the way Terrence Ross has been playing lately, I don't get why Casey doesn't at least try a starting lineup of Lowry/DeRozan/Ross/Bargs/Valanciunas. Or switch up DeRozan at the 3 and Ross at the 2. Hopefully not against LeBron or Durant.

We also need to consider that we've got a new starting PG this year and quite a few rotation players who are new or coming back from extended time away (Kleiza), which all contribute to our lack of ability to close games out.

I don't think we'll end the season as badly as we are now, unless we are ravaged by injuries.
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