All-Star Game Returns - A plea to get DD/Lowry in the game - Page 3
Old 01-12-2014, 08:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Rose (injured)
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IMO when it comes to PG's Teague/Irving will be there. It then depends on if they only bring 2PG's and more SG's instead. If they carry 3PG/3SG's the third PG spot is between Wall/Lowry. I know they just lump in all the guards together but isn't it usually split between PG/SG (3 each) ?
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Wall deserves it over Teague IMO. Comes down to Teague vs Lowry for that 3rd PG slot.
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:00 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Wall deserves it over Teague IMO. Comes down to Teague vs Lowry for that 3rd PG slot.
Maybe so
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Because they only pick as guards, not PG's and SG's, Lowry's biggest competition may be because DeRozan is a strong candidate. I could see them picking Teague/Derozan, but if the coaches think Lowry is deserving, they may pick Lowry/Aflalo
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Would rather DeMar be an all star than Lowry. Who is a better SG in the East than him? I only got Wade and Afflalo.

Imo it will be Wall/Irving/whichever of Teague or Lowry is playing best, Wade/Afflalo/DeRozan

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Old 01-12-2014, 10:06 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Would rather DeMar be an all star than Lowry. Who is a better SG in the East than him? I only got Wade and Afflalo.

Imo it will be Wall/Irving/whichever of Teague or Lowry is playing best, Wade/Afflalo/DeRozan
The East is quite weak when it comes to SG's.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:27 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Irving has been pretty uninspiring on too many nights. Teague or Lowry should have a shot. And Demar as well. Especially if we are firmly in 3rd when they decide.
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^ Teague has improved a lot, but he's still well below the all-star tier. Just because Horford goes out does't mean the Hawks will get another all-star JUST to make up for it, especially if they fall off in the next three weeks, which they very likely will. Millsap will be their all-star because he's put up great numbers through his career and is known around the league as a high character person and a pro's pro.

LX you know Irving will make it because he's still the Cavs best player and as an all-star last year he'll have momentum behind him. Afflalo should have no shot since the Magic are the second worst team in the league, despite him having a career year with all-star worthy stats.
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Afflalo should have no shot since the Magic are the second worst team in the league, despite him having a career year with all-star worthy stats.
best SG in the EC this season, no contest. let alone not have a shot.....that's ludacris
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CB4 made the all-star team when he was here.... and we were far from a good team.

I'd be shocked if Afflalo doesn't make it.
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Rose (injured)
D-Will (struggling + injuries)
Teague (likely will be an all-star)
Rondo (injured)
Jennings (sucks)
Irving (will be an all-star)


IMO when it comes to PG's Teague/Irving will be there. It then depends on if they only bring 2PG's and more SG's instead. If they carry 3PG/3SG's the third PG spot is between Wall/Lowry. I know they just lump in all the guards together but isn't it usually split between PG/SG (3 each) ?
There is no set limit or designation of amount of PGs or SGs. There's just a limit of 6 GUARDS.

It's not out of the realm of possibility to have Wall, Lowry, Irving and Teague.
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Stephenson also has a chance to be on the EC team given that beside Wade (guaranteed), Afflalo (probably guaranteed), DeRozan (could be a coin flip between him and Lowry) and maybe Beal (probably has the lowest chance out of all of these SGs), there isn't much in the EC SG-wise.

There will be some interesting choices to be made for sure.
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best SG in the EC this season, no contest. let alone not have a shot.....that's ludacris
Yeah, and Monta Ellis put up 25/3/5 with 2 steals on 45%/34%/75% back in his Golden State days and also got snubbed. At the end of the day it's not stats that determine all-stars, or really, even MVPs. (Nash)

Winning is just as much if not a more important criteria, and if you look at it like that it is clear that Afflalo, while more productive personally, has not helped his team get wins with nearly the success that DeMar has. (And he was held down by Rudy for the first twenty games)

Teague should have a much better shot than Afflalo, really, and as I've said before I don't think Teague has the credentials DeMar does either.
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There is no set limit or designation of amount of PGs or SGs. There's just a limit of 6 GUARDS.

It's not out of the realm of possibility to have Wall, Lowry, Irving and Teague.
Where do you get six guards? All-Star teams have less than 15 players if you've ever noticed. In fact, if there are no injury replacements, I believe there's only 12 players total, so seven without the starters. And since you need more bigs than guards, they will almost always end up with a three guard/four big bench.

That means besides Wall (who is the only clear bench guard), Lowry and DeMar really are the most deserving guards left since they're the #1 and #2 on a winning team with stats that are pretty darn good.

@LX: Actually forget my previous comment regarding Irving; he won't be selected by the coaches since he's going to be a starter. So poor play or not, Kyrie will be there.
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Where do you get six guards? All-Star teams have less than 15 players if you've ever noticed. In fact, if there are no injury replacements, I believe there's only 12 players total, so seven without the starters. And since you need more bigs than guards, they will almost always end up with a three guard/four big bench.

That means besides Wall (who is the only clear bench guard), Lowry and DeMar really are the most deserving guards left since they're the #1 and #2 on a winning team with stats that are pretty darn good.

@LX: Actually forget my previous comment regarding Irving; he won't be selected by the coaches since he's going to be a starter. So poor play or not, Kyrie will be there.
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Ok but what of Teague then if ATL are 4th? Or Stephenson since he's the 3rd to 5th best SG in the East and playing on a championship caliber squad?
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Lowry should be there and I think he's either the best or 2nd best non-injured guard in the east right now. He used to look bad and get killed by the Irvings and Walls but he's playing better and this team makes him look so much better too (he's been the dominant point guard on the floor every game) and is playing a better player at the moment than teague wall and maybe Kyrie. I think his defense makes him better than kyrie fwiw.

Yes I get some of them had a better start to the year, and are younger and you may like them better, but that's not what the All-Star Game is about.
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afflalo has no shot - not only his team is awful (when Bosh made it, we were pretty good, not playoff calibre, but in the hunt). Demar nearly has better stats and is carrying a heavier load too - orlando has no pressure. That, plus he is a fluke candidate, since he's not an up and coming guy like Bosh was. Bosh also had almost no competition - those days the east was terrible in the front court.

irving will make it because he will be voted in unfortunately, I'd pick lowry over him any day. Never liked him as a player and I think he's massively overrated because of his scoring. He's capable, but not smart and plays no D - useless.
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afflalo this season: 20.8/4.4/3.9 with 0.6 spg and 0(!) bpg.
demar this season: 21.3/4.4/3.6 with 1.2 spg and 0.5 bpg

afflalo is a better shooter and defender, but the difference in wins between us and them pretty much shuts the debate off.

I should probably rephrase it, there is NO WAY afflalo makes it before demar does. Maybe they both make it, but I doubt it since at best they'll pick 7 guards if they move some to the SF spot, but most likely only 5 will be picked.
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