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Old 05-13-2009, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So that's 15 players were better than Bosh this past year. Then you look at the other players who got votes. Deron Williams, Garnett were ahead of Bosh, no controversy there. That puts Bosh at 18th. But I'd have a hard time taking Bosh over Kevin Durant or Joe Johnson right now. And how did Andre Iguodala get one vote, total. Am I missing something? Isn't he really good?

Anyway, my point is that while I think Chris Bosh is a very good player, I'm don't see him as a guy who's going to be first-team all-NBA anytime soon. First team NBA players are guys, in my mind, who elevate their teams. LeBron is one. Kobe is one. Dwight Howard is one. Chris Paul is one. Dwyane Wade often is one. Tim Duncan used to be, as did Shaq. When healthy Garnett is right on the bubble.

Bosh isn't. And the biggest risk facing the Raptors going forward in my mind isn't wether Bosh stays or goes, but whether they pay him like a first-team all-NBA player even though he's not one.
Could have not said it better myself -this is EXACTLY how I feel about Bosh - top 25 player who is NOT worth a max contract, but who will get a max contract because all it takes is one stupid GM to offer it and the other have to match it ... The only disagreement I have is with taking JJ over Bosh, but it's definitely arguable.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well it took a couple months but the beat writers are finally on the right track. This is not so much about "will Bosh take our max offer?" as much as "why should we give a non top 10, non All-NBA player who led us to 33 wins the biggest contract in NBA history"

I find it funny that Boozer if he opted out now would get like 10 mil a year, while Bosh will get 20. Bosh is worth twice as much as Boozer, what??? Aren't they the same player, except for the fact that Boozer is more injury prone and a douche?
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bosh is also three years younger. Because many people consider Bosh to not be in his "prime" yet, he will get more money than someone like Boozer based on the fact that many GMs will probably look at his age and think that he is still capable of growing while Boozer is considered to be at his "peak". Contracts (especially to young players) are given out based more on predicted value rather than current value.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That and the injuries/attitude sounds like the difference between a 10 mil contract and a 14 one at best. Which is exactly what I'd give Bosh
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The sharks(media) see blood in the water. They going in for the easy kill now at this point.

Grange is a tool and always negative. I agree with some of what he's saying but the portion where he insinuates Iggy is better than Bosh was ridiculous.

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Old 05-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yea lets offer Bosh sheed $
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, lets watch the Raptors lose Bosh for nothing.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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IMO he's worth what he currently makes, 15Mil. No more no less!

Second tier $$
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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15 million Max.

And I am not Grange in real life, just in case anyone was wondering.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If we offer 15 mil he'll leave for a team that will offer him 20 mil(there is nno doubt that will happen)
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I didn't realise the pay scale was determined by placing on the NBA All-Team.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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good lord I have said this for two yeras.
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You've also said Kris Humphries was better than Bosh...your point?
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Yeyeyeyye lets trade Bosh for shit like everybody fucking suggests, and see the fucking Raptors only win fucking 10 games next year.

Nobody respects my man CB4 anymore.

Fuck.

If Bosh walks, its because of the attitude of his so called "fans". I love how people turn on their hometown superstar after one bad season. Have some faith in the guy, for fucks sake.
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I hope CB doesn't read this site. WE LOVE YOU CB STAY IN TORONTO!!!

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You've also said Kris Humphries was better than Bosh...your point?
hahaha sfpwned, oh and moon is the next rodman
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I would give him a 110mil/6 years deal.....

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Yeyeyeyye lets trade Bosh for shit like everybody fucking suggests, and see the fucking Raptors only win fucking 10 games next year.

Nobody respects my man CB4 anymore.

Fuck.

If Bosh walks, its because of the attitude of his so called "fans". I love how people turn on their hometown superstar after one bad season. Have some faith in the guy, for fucks sake.
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Oh my, we gonna go back in time now?

I never said Humphries was better, so STFU, if you're gonna bring up past conversations, have the decency to present what I said, and why I said it.

Same with Moon. I never said he was gonna be Rodman, I said he possesed a skill set that would allow him to put himself into that mould of player should he do the work.

Couple of ignant trolls.

As for Bosh, I appreciate what he does, so MY POINT, for my good friend ACIE, has been, that he simply isn't a top tier player, and paying im like one, and losing the chance to sign a very good player becaue of the extra 5 million you dump on him, is just stupid.
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Oh my, we gonna go back in time now?

I never said Humphries was better, so STFU, if you're gonna bring up past conversations, have the decency to present what I said, and why I said it.

Same with Moon. I never said he was gonna be Rodman, I said he possesed a skill set that would allow him to put himself into that mould of player should he do the work.

Couple of ignant trolls.

As for Bosh, I appreciate what he does, so MY POINT, for my good friend ACIE, has been, that he simply isn't a top tier player, and paying im like one, and losing the chance to sign a very good player becaue of the extra 5 million you dump on him, is just stupid.
First of all, lighten up - my post was in jest. Perhaps I should've put a smiley. Secondly, I have a photographic memory and you did say something to the effect that Hump was better way back when at another board.
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