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Trade him 22 25.88%
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:06 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Barg has potential. He just needs a good mentor. Let me break down his strengths and weaknesses by defense and offense.

Defense: At times he loses focus and forgets to rebound. He can do it but it'll take determination. He's sort of out of shape...you see alot of flubber. He should work on his legs more so that he has better lateral movement.

Offense: He's got talent. He tall. He's fast (Only if he wants to). He'll need to figure out a way to control his speed. He'll also need to learn how to dribble better with the ball. If you compare Dirk with him, you can clearly see he lacks that post up/smooth move. He can shoot but it always seems flat. And I think that's due to his lack of working out (out of shape).

He definetely a starter. Maybe not right now. And he'll also need a big men to help him out. Reggie just has no offenese at all so it doesn't really help Barg. Players will just leave Reggie to help on guarding Barg, thus he'll never develop his offense.

If we have another big men (not Ed Davis) it would make them a deadly combo.
See what I mean!! He's good. He needs to have consistency. He needs to know that he's the new franchise!!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:08 PM   #82 (permalink)
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This was posted yesterday. Bargnani mustve read it so he went off for 30 and 7. lets make hate threads for all our players so theyll go off too!
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:30 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:09 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:20 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Bargnani played great, but that's the type of effort and aggression that is needed every night.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:27 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Bargnani played great, but that's the type of effort and aggression that is needed every night.
Sadly we know that soon enough he'll have another 3-4reb game and look disinterested. We've seen this movie before.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:52 AM   #87 (permalink)
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OH MY GOD Bargs DROPPED 30 TONIGHT ....

LETS TRADE HIM
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:28 AM   #88 (permalink)
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wow a good game - aside from multiple occassions where he gently swiped at rebounds and ended up looking like he was actually handing the ball to Philly for 2nd chance points, and played brutal defense to start the game. How dumb am I to not be impressed?

So is he a third option on a good team, a first option on a shit team, or at best a guy that can only minimize the effect of his defensive foibles by scoring 30. Oh - or a fantasy league wet dream?
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:46 AM   #89 (permalink)
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wow a good game - aside from multiple occassions where he gently swiped at rebounds and ended up looking like he was actually handing the ball to Philly for 2nd chance points, and played brutal defense to start the game. How dumb am I to not be impressed?

So is he a third option on a good team, a first option on a shit team, or at best a guy that can only minimize the effect of his defensive foibles by scoring 30. Oh - or a fantasy league wet dream?
yet when Bosh filled the exact same roll you could keep from having your panties moistened by the blessing of getting to watch 82 games with him?
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:43 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Tou guys are messed up not every player is really good at defence..have you ever seen dirk play defence??? Bargs is an offensive player and will block way more shots than dirk he is to me an excellent one on one defender because of his foot speed..he just needs to concentrate on boxing out to get more boards instead of just jumping nd add the fact that he has an excellent rebouner in reggie beside him..if the raps trade Bargs they are stupid..he has devoloped good or decent post moves I think he will add more nd because of his mobility its hard to stop his drives..for yu to say he had no effort yesterday is just being a hater he played hardd ..wen he started heating up stupid jay triano took him out the game I don't kno why he does that..when a polayer finds his grove it isn't time to sit on the bench mr gold medal champion coach..BARGS IS AN ALLSTAR WHEN HE GETS HIS MENTAL TOUGHNESS DOWNPACKED AND GETS USED TO BEING THE NO 1 OPTION...YOU GUYS NEED TO RELAX ITS ONLY 12 OR 13GAMES INTO THE SEASON HELL GET THERE
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:26 AM   #91 (permalink)
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He is a terrible defender.

Offers Zero help.

Doesn't rebound.

Can't block a shot.

Good on offence.

heh. So is David Anderson.
biggest problem in my eyes is that he is too lumbering. he either needs to commit 100% to being a traditional center and beef up and bang(of course learn how) or drop some weight, focus on conditioning and use the skills he is more naturally suited. yes it means he is going to get banged around by the bigger centers in the league but it is going to make him a lot more mobile.



some of the blame needs to be placed on the conditioning/strength coaches on this team for trying to make a this cat have the body of a traditional center when he just isnt. take advantage of his natural abilties and get him leaner and faster.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:29 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Leaner and faster suits every player in the NBA. Whenever players comes into a season leaner than he was the previous year, watch out. IE) Michael Beasly, Reggie.
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Leaner and faster suits every player in the NBA. Whenever players comes into a season leaner than he was the previous year, watch out. IE) Michael Beasly, Reggie.
bosh started off oretty good last year and he was bigger.

A guy like Davis definately needs to get bigger.
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Leaner and faster suits every player in the NBA. Whenever players comes into a season leaner than he was the previous year, watch out. IE) Michael Beasly, Reggie.
Bosh is leaner, that's going well.
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Really we should trade Bargs, I have been one of his biggest supports but it is time for him to go. I recommend we package him and Jose for...

A 7'0
Scores over 20 pts a game
Averages 10 rebounds
Plays great man defense
Is an awesome help defender
Can shoot the 3
Is a team leader


If we do that we would be amazing.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:18 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Really we should trade Bargs, I have been one of his biggest supports but it is time for him to go. I recommend we package him and Jose for...

A 7'0
Scores over 20 pts a game
Averages 10 rebounds
Plays great man defense
Is an awesome help defender
Can shoot the 3
Is a team leader


If we do that we would be amazing.
closest guy to that is Pau
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:29 PM   #97 (permalink)
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i seriously cannot see Bargnani on another team, no one will take this dude

The only team i can see Bargnani thriving on is the suns, but they already have channing frye and turk, no one will take this guy, and we can't build around him. Bargnani is just a piece to a puzzle, not the franchise but in the shit situation we are in now he has to be

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Old 11-18-2010, 12:40 PM   #98 (permalink)
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I am going to suggest you folks that think he's untradeable are all wrong. I think he has value around the league. Look at the GMs' that valued Turkoglu last year and this? Guys like Pritchard and Sarver that are generally known to make good decisions. They think that if they get the guy their coaches will fix his issues...and they take the risk because of the talent ... and Bargnani has loads of talent.

I think you'd be suprised who'd be willing to take him on.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:45 PM   #99 (permalink)
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When Bargnani starts to do the little things, then wake me up.

Right now, he's fool's gold.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:45 PM   #100 (permalink)
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He'd probably be a good fit with the Knicks style.
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