The All-in-One Bargnani Hate Thread

mb666 · 11-16-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever

I just spat my drink out all over my computer.

You're right though.. he HAS been consistent.... consistently HORRIBLE on defense and on the glass.

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Originally Posted by mb666

I'm really not trying to defend Bargnani, but you just have to accept him for what he is... a scorer. Don't expect him to rebound and be a defensive presence. He will always be mediocre on defense. It is what it is.

Dark Knight · 11-16-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever

Dirk... Bosh... Amare.... Boozer.... none of these guys are known for their defense but at least they grabbed rebounds and battled down low.

You couldn't have named 4 names that are worse examples my friend, other than maybe Boozer. Dirk is considered a perimeter big. As is Bosh. Hell, you could even include Amare as a perimeter big. Yes, they all get a few more rebounds a game than Bargnani, but if you have been watching Bargs over the years, you will have noticed that the reason his rebounding numbers are low is because he boxes out his man 90% of the time before he tries to rebound. That means that Bosh (or this year, Reggie) can swoop in their and grab that board.

fk24 · 11-16-2010, 11:20 PM

Trade him while his value is high.

0nekhmer · 11-16-2010, 11:20 PM

when your team is in rebuilding mode, we need to get rid of these types of players, get some nice young pieces/1st round picks in return

jeffb · 11-16-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fk24

Trade him while his value is high.

Unless he miraculously grows a pair, then i'd love to know when that would be.

fk24 · 11-16-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Unless he miraculously grows a pair, then i'd love to know when that would be.

A first round pick. Maybe in the lottery.

Dark Knight · 11-16-2010, 11:24 PM

For fuck sakes people, it was one game!!!

jeffb · 11-16-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

For fuck sakes people, it was one game!!!

Where have you been the last 5yrs? Seriously, this has been Bargnani since he came into the league.

mb666 · 11-16-2010, 11:30 PM

Get a real center... someone who is foremost defended minded (Dampier, Marc Gasol, Kaman, etc.) and move Bargnani to his natural PF position.

Have him score and don't expect him to be much of a defensive presence. That's just not part of his game. Be content with the 18 pts per game and let others be the defensive specialists.

jeffb · 11-16-2010, 11:31 PM

A real Center and a real PG and we'd be headed in the right direction with Davis/Amir at PF going forward.

Dark Knight · 11-16-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Where have you been the last 5yrs? Seriously, this has been Bargnani since he came into the league.

Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.

bjjs · 11-16-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.

What is his situation exactly?

Dark Knight · 11-16-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bjjs

What is his situation exactly?

Bargs had a bad game and everyone is losing their heads over it. I thought it was obvious.

jeffb · 11-16-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.

There's been these threads before now. Some were being patient believe it or not, but seriously this guy is the most frustrating player to watch. His lack of effort alone makes one want to kick something.

Dark Knight · 11-16-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

There's been these threads before now. Some were being patient believe it or not, but seriously this guy is the most frustrating player to watch. His lack of effort alone makes one want to kick something.

Are we talking about Andrea or Hedo Turkoglu?

bjjs · 11-16-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mb666

Have him score and don't expect him to be much of a defensive presence. That's just not part of his game. Be content with the 18 pts per game and let others be the defensive specialists.

That just isn't a recipe for any type of success in basketball.

bjjs · 11-16-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

Bargs had a bad game and everyone is losing their heads over it. I thought it was obvious.

I thought you were going tell me Andrea's situation with the team. I was eager to hear your opinion.

mb666 · 11-16-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bjjs

That just isn't a recipe for any type of success in basketball.

Why? Players have roles. Bargnani can be a scorer. Others can pick up on his weaknesses. Like Evans compliments Bargnani's allergy to rebounding, Bargnani compliments Evans' inability to score the ball.

Of course Bargnani can't be a total failure and should put an effort on defense. We just have to accept him for what he is... a below average rebounder as a C/PF.

**halphbreedballer** · 11-16-2010, 11:43 PM

Talk to me about him again at the trade deadline? It's just way too early for this talk!

bjjs · 11-16-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mb666

Why? Players have roles. Bargnani can be a scorer. Others can pick up on his weaknesses. Like Evans compliments Bargnani's allergy to rebounding, Bargnani compliments Evans' inability to score the ball.

Of course Bargnani can't be a total failure and should put an effort on defense. We just have to accept him for what he is... a below average rebounder as a C/PF.

How do you compliment an allergy to rebounding or a inability to score the basketball?

That's like complimenting a runny nose with a fancy hat.

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Dark Knight Captain of the Jamario Moon fan club. Born Unready Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Electric Avenue Posts: 15,552 Representing:	For fuck sakes people, it was one game!!!

11-16-2010, 11:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
mb666 it is what it is. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,009 Representing:	Get a real center... someone who is foremost defended minded (Dampier, Marc Gasol, Kaman, etc.) and move Bargnani to his natural PF position. Have him score and don't expect him to be much of a defensive presence. That's just not part of his game. Be content with the 18 pts per game and let others be the defensive specialists.

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jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	A real Center and a real PG and we'd be headed in the right direction with Davis/Amir at PF going forward.

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halphbreedballer Waiting for DD's 1st in game wind mill Dunk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: T.O. Posts: 4,879 Representing:	Talk to me about him again at the trade deadline? It's just way too early for this talk!