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Old 11-17-2010, 12:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I just spat my drink out all over my computer.

You're right though.. he HAS been consistent.... consistently HORRIBLE on defense and on the glass.
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I'm really not trying to defend Bargnani, but you just have to accept him for what he is... a scorer. Don't expect him to rebound and be a defensive presence. He will always be mediocre on defense. It is what it is.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Dirk... Bosh... Amare.... Boozer.... none of these guys are known for their defense but at least they grabbed rebounds and battled down low.


You couldn't have named 4 names that are worse examples my friend, other than maybe Boozer. Dirk is considered a perimeter big. As is Bosh. Hell, you could even include Amare as a perimeter big. Yes, they all get a few more rebounds a game than Bargnani, but if you have been watching Bargs over the years, you will have noticed that the reason his rebounding numbers are low is because he boxes out his man 90% of the time before he tries to rebound. That means that Bosh (or this year, Reggie) can swoop in their and grab that board.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Trade him while his value is high.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:20 AM   #24 (permalink)
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when your team is in rebuilding mode, we need to get rid of these types of players, get some nice young pieces/1st round picks in return
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:22 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Trade him while his value is high.
Unless he miraculously grows a pair, then i'd love to know when that would be.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Unless he miraculously grows a pair, then i'd love to know when that would be.
A first round pick. Maybe in the lottery.
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For fuck sakes people, it was one game!!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:29 AM   #28 (permalink)
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For fuck sakes people, it was one game!!!
Where have you been the last 5yrs? Seriously, this has been Bargnani since he came into the league.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:30 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Get a real center... someone who is foremost defended minded (Dampier, Marc Gasol, Kaman, etc.) and move Bargnani to his natural PF position.

Have him score and don't expect him to be much of a defensive presence. That's just not part of his game. Be content with the 18 pts per game and let others be the defensive specialists.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:31 AM   #30 (permalink)
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A real Center and a real PG and we'd be headed in the right direction with Davis/Amir at PF going forward.
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Where have you been the last 5yrs? Seriously, this has been Bargnani since he came into the league.
Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:36 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.
What is his situation exactly?
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What is his situation exactly?
Bargs had a bad game and everyone is losing their heads over it. I thought it was obvious.
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Why all the hate now then? Why didn't someone start one of these threads when he scored 26 points and grabbed 9 boards against Utah, or when he scored 23 and 9 against the Bobcats, 22 and 9 against Miami...

I am the youngest member of this board, yet I am part of a select few that still have some sanity when it comes to Andrea's situation.
There's been these threads before now. Some were being patient believe it or not, but seriously this guy is the most frustrating player to watch. His lack of effort alone makes one want to kick something.
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There's been these threads before now. Some were being patient believe it or not, but seriously this guy is the most frustrating player to watch. His lack of effort alone makes one want to kick something.
Are we talking about Andrea or Hedo Turkoglu?
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Have him score and don't expect him to be much of a defensive presence. That's just not part of his game. Be content with the 18 pts per game and let others be the defensive specialists.
That just isn't a recipe for any type of success in basketball.
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Bargs had a bad game and everyone is losing their heads over it. I thought it was obvious.
I thought you were going tell me Andrea's situation with the team. I was eager to hear your opinion.
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That just isn't a recipe for any type of success in basketball.
Why? Players have roles. Bargnani can be a scorer. Others can pick up on his weaknesses. Like Evans compliments Bargnani's allergy to rebounding, Bargnani compliments Evans' inability to score the ball.

Of course Bargnani can't be a total failure and should put an effort on defense. We just have to accept him for what he is... a below average rebounder as a C/PF.
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Talk to me about him again at the trade deadline? It's just way too early for this talk!
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:45 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Why? Players have roles. Bargnani can be a scorer. Others can pick up on his weaknesses. Like Evans compliments Bargnani's allergy to rebounding, Bargnani compliments Evans' inability to score the ball.

Of course Bargnani can't be a total failure and should put an effort on defense. We just have to accept him for what he is... a below average rebounder as a C/PF.

How do you compliment an allergy to rebounding or a inability to score the basketball?

That's like complimenting a runny nose with a fancy hat.

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