The All-in-One Bargnani Hate Thread

MementoAudereSemper · 11-25-2010, 06:49 PM

To everybody:
I would say that by the way Bargnani is the best Raptor this year.
He is still young and is still improving. To everybody saying that is already his fifth year and he was supposed to start scoring 20 points three years ago I would say to them to take a look of the stats of other players, Joe Johnson NBA.com : Joe Johnson Career Stats Page, what would have said about him? Plus Bargnani came in completely not ready mentally and physically to the NBA, it is not so easy to come in the NBA from a club like Benetton Treviso.
For what concerns about his attitude he is a warrior, a competitor, and this year without Bosh, also a Leader. With Bosh in the team was difficult to have big stats: Bosh is a selfish black hole, that is showing in Miami how soft and inconsistent he is. But as long as he was in Toronto every single play/shot was for him, and I blame Triano for this!
This year is different, there is room and plays for Bargnani, this is why he is improving his confidence and stats.
Ok, he is not a big rebounder, and probably he will never be, but the team, as other people said, the team is better then last year when there was Black hole Bosh. To get more he would have probably to box out Reggie.
Support Bargnani, Support Toronto and in the future we will probably win something, keep complaining about Bargnani, and the team and we will pass other years of reconstruction without winning nothing.

eazy187 · 11-25-2010, 09:00 PM

3rd highest scoring Center in the league.. and he's shooting 43% from behind the arc...

Don Vito · 11-26-2010, 10:22 PM

I've had enough with Bargnani, I'm sick of this bullshit. 4-15 for the 'franchise player', get the fuck out of here. One day he is Wilt Chamberlain and the next he is Jake Voskuhl. For the supposed #1 option on the court, you cannot be that inconsistent, it is un-fucking acceptable. I don't care if he can go off for 30 points one night, the inconsistency is not acceptable in the NBA. Let him go be inconsistent off the bench for another team.

**Acie** · 11-26-2010, 10:28 PM

Dude, it's one game against arguably the best team in the Eastern Conference.

Chill out.

tdotballing · 11-26-2010, 10:34 PM

LOL after one bad game by Bargs this thread gets fired up again lol...

**INSIDER** · 11-26-2010, 10:36 PM

11 and 8 vs the best team in the east, yet he's the scapegoat.
the entire team was abused tonight.

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDER

11 and 8 vs the best team in the east, yet he's the scapegoat.
the entire team was abused tonight.

It's only fair... I mean Bosh was the scapegoat for every Celts loss before right?

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2010, 10:39 PM

And just so everyone knows.... I'm expecting 10 rebs/gm from Bargs from now on since Reggie won't be there to "steal his rebounds" anymore. lol.

jeffb · 11-26-2010, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER

11 and 8 vs the best team in the east, yet he's the scapegoat.
the entire team was abused tonight.

Scapegoat? Who said Bargnani is the scapegoat? He and others had off games. No one player lost us this game, look at Weems, Derozan, Bargs on O, Jose's stat line is deceiving b/c he often looked bad tonight. This was a team loss and that includes the coach, sorry but he wasn't perfect or blameless either. We didn't have it tonight, but we showed some fight which is great to see.

**Acie** · 11-26-2010, 10:41 PM

The Celtics came out right from the start and knocked the Raps down and stepped on their necks. That's why they're the Beasts of the East. There's nothing anyone could've done.

jeffb · 11-26-2010, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Vito

I've had enough with Bargnani, I'm sick of this bullshit.

Seriously dude. I don't know how to feel about Bargnani from one week to the other, but come on. You think Boston was gonna let Bargs go off on them twice in less then a week?

**INSIDER** · 11-26-2010, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever

It's only fair... I mean Bosh was the scapegoat for every Celts loss before right?

theres a difference between being a scapegoat and having a 'trade Bargs rant' after every suspect game.

**INSIDER** · 11-26-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Scapegoat? Who said Bargnani is the scapegoat? .

i was responding to don vito's post.

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acie

The Celtics came out right from the start and knocked the Raps down and stepped on their necks. That's why they're the Beasts of the East. There's nothing anyone could've done.

LOL @ everyone thinking that we're suddenly in the Celts' class and that we SHOULD be able to beat them on their home floor.

Battling back as hard as we did to keep it respectable was a victory in itself.

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2010, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER

theres a difference between being a scapegoat and having a 'trade Bargs rant' after every suspect game.

I haven't said anything about trading Bargs (recently).

I'm just holding Bargs to the same impossible standards that everyone held Bosh to.

tdotballing · 11-26-2010, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acie

The Celtics came out right from the start and knocked the Raps down and stepped on their necks. That's why they're the Beasts of the East. There's nothing anyone could've done.

I don't know i think there is something we could've done. Like if demar made a few of his shots, or sonny hit some of his shots, or Bargs put up decent numbers or our bigs didn't let all thos uncontested dunks/ lay ups. If Any one of those things happenned(take your pick) and it couldve been a lot closer game.

LX · 11-26-2010, 10:48 PM

The points in the paint by the Celtics bigs meant the Raptors had no chance of winning this from the get go. That was on all of our bigs, but Bargnani is particularly overzealous when it comes to leaving his man wide open under the basket when it is not necessary. It really is unbearable.

And now that Doc has so easily dissected our defense, I can only figure that the problem will persist. Trying to hide a 7 footer that can't defend is not a problem I would wish on any coach or any team. But there it is, for all of us to enjoy, unless the Raptors can find new ways of making the guy appear to be more than a pylon. And Reggie is out of the picture now, so who is going to do the work of 2?

**Acie** · 11-26-2010, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdotballing

I dunno i think theres something we could've done. Like if demar made a few of his shots, or sonny hit some of his shots, or Bargs put up decent numbers or our bigs didn't let all thos uncontested dunks/ lay ups. Any one of those things happenned(take your pick) and it couldve been a lot closer game.

DeMar only missed one shot.

Boston is a Championship contender, we are a lottery team. We embarassed them last Sunday, these guys are too proud and too talented to let it happen again. Their D was too good, their O was too good...what the fuck are you gonna do?

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2010, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acie

DeMar only missed one shot.

Boston is a Championship contender, we are a lottery team. We embarassed them last Sunday, these guys are too proud and too talented to let it happen again. Their D was too good, their O was too good...what the fuck are you gonna do?

I don't know... but it's all Triano's fault anyway!!!!

tdotballing · 11-26-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acie

DeMar only missed one shot.

Boston is a Championship contender, we are a lottery team. We embarassed them last Sunday, these guys are too proud and too talented to let it happen again. Their D was too good, their O was too good...what the fuck are you gonna do?

ya well i still think theres something we couldve done. We played terrible in so many different areas and it was still within reach.if we played like we usually do in any one of those areas it wouldve been a very close game

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11-25-2010, 06:49 PM	#221 (permalink)
MementoAudereSemper MAS Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1 Representing:	To everybody: I would say that by the way Bargnani is the best Raptor this year. He is still young and is still improving. To everybody saying that is already his fifth year and he was supposed to start scoring 20 points three years ago I would say to them to take a look of the stats of other players, Joe Johnson NBA.com : Joe Johnson Career Stats Page, what would have said about him? Plus Bargnani came in completely not ready mentally and physically to the NBA, it is not so easy to come in the NBA from a club like Benetton Treviso. For what concerns about his attitude he is a warrior, a competitor, and this year without Bosh, also a Leader. With Bosh in the team was difficult to have big stats: Bosh is a selfish black hole, that is showing in Miami how soft and inconsistent he is. But as long as he was in Toronto every single play/shot was for him, and I blame Triano for this! This year is different, there is room and plays for Bargnani, this is why he is improving his confidence and stats. Ok, he is not a big rebounder, and probably he will never be, but the team, as other people said, the team is better then last year when there was Black hole Bosh. To get more he would have probably to box out Reggie. Support Bargnani, Support Toronto and in the future we will probably win something, keep complaining about Bargnani, and the team and we will pass other years of reconstruction without winning nothing.

11-25-2010, 09:00 PM	#222 (permalink)
eazy187 better than you Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 892 Representing:	3rd highest scoring Center in the league.. and he's shooting 43% from behind the arc...

11-26-2010, 10:22 PM	#223 (permalink)
Don Vito raptor jesus Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,792 Representing:	I've had enough with Bargnani, I'm sick of this bullshit. 4-15 for the 'franchise player', get the fuck out of here. One day he is Wilt Chamberlain and the next he is Jake Voskuhl. For the supposed #1 option on the court, you cannot be that inconsistent, it is un-fucking acceptable. I don't care if he can go off for 30 points one night, the inconsistency is not acceptable in the NBA. Let him go be inconsistent off the bench for another team.

11-26-2010, 10:28 PM	#224 (permalink)
Acie landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 21,353 Representing:	Dude, it's one game against arguably the best team in the Eastern Conference. Chill out.

11-26-2010, 10:36 PM	#226 (permalink)
INSIDER BOOBS never too old. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: richmond hill Posts: 11,372 Representing:	11 and 8 vs the best team in the east, yet he's the scapegoat. the entire team was abused tonight.

11-26-2010, 10:39 PM	#228 (permalink)
TORaptor4Ever "Fake All-Star" Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,238 Representing:	And just so everyone knows.... I'm expecting 10 rebs/gm from Bargs from now on since Reggie won't be there to "steal his rebounds" anymore. lol.

11-26-2010, 10:41 PM	#230 (permalink)
Acie landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 21,353 Representing:	The Celtics came out right from the start and knocked the Raps down and stepped on their necks. That's why they're the Beasts of the East. There's nothing anyone could've done.

11-26-2010, 10:48 PM	#237 (permalink)
LX truly truly truly in love with his skin In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 25,957 Representing:	The points in the paint by the Celtics bigs meant the Raptors had no chance of winning this from the get go. That was on all of our bigs, but Bargnani is particularly overzealous when it comes to leaving his man wide open under the basket when it is not necessary. It really is unbearable. And now that Doc has so easily dissected our defense, I can only figure that the problem will persist. Trying to hide a 7 footer that can't defend is not a problem I would wish on any coach or any team. But there it is, for all of us to enjoy, unless the Raptors can find new ways of making the guy appear to be more than a pylon. And Reggie is out of the picture now, so who is going to do the work of 2?