Alabi and the C spot
Old 09-03-2011, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There are some notable free agent big men like Marc Gasol (restricted free agent), Tyson Chandler (unrestricted free agent) and Denver big man Nene (unrestricted free agent) however all of them are coming from situations better than the one in Toronto and all of them would command far more money than the Raptors can offer especially if the cap is coming down.

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The good news is that the Raptors do have a candidate in Solomon Alabi who was drafted last year with the 50th pick. Solomon was drafted coming off of knee surgery which was kept somewhat low key during the draft process; as a result he really did not work out well for NBA teams and took a slide.

If you recall, Alabi was considered by some to be a late first round prospect that just tumbled on draft night.

Alabi did not get healthy until mid-season last year and by that time he’d already been written out of the game plan by former head coach Jay Triano. Alabi saw garbage time but little else as a rookie.

When the Raptors’ season ended Alabi hit the gym almost immediately, so when the Raptors put together a mini-camp at the end of June, Alabi was not only one of the best players in the camp, he was finally healthy and had some bounce again.

If you recall, Alabi last season he could barely jump over a phone book and looked like a plodding stiff.

New Raptors’ head coach Dwane Casey was impressed with Alabi’s performance and told the 23-year-old seven-footer that if he came to camp with the same bounce, energy and aggressiveness that he showed in the mini-camp, he’d get a chance to compete for the starters spot at center.
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http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-the...enter-problem/

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Fortunately he won't be starting for us next season whenever that is.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the longer the lockout goes, the better his chances....
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the longer the lockout goes, the better his chances....
I doubt it. The longer it goes the closer we get to Jonas joining us.I just remember them saying their first priority is to go after a Center in FA. And if Bargnani is going to be a PF next season we certainly need another Center other than Alabi. Plus Alabi is still unbelievably raw and I doubt he can be a legit starter anytime soon. But who knows I guess, hopefully he proves me wrong because if so we'd be in a good position once Val joins us.
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I doubt the FA C is still their first priority, though it could be..... yes he's raw, but you aren't seeing his workouts, and who knows how much progress he could make.... especially if his knee has improved. Go back and watch some college highlights and it looks more promising than his Raptor highlights.

JV is still going to be raw next year too. Define legit starter and then we can talk. Alabi could easily be an active player that could get decent minutes as a starting C if his body is indeed healthy again.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I doubt the FA C is still their first priority, though it could be..... yes he's raw, but you aren't seeing his workouts, and who knows how much progress he could make.... especially if his knee has improved. Go back and watch some college highlights and it looks more promising than his Raptor highlights.

JV is still going to be raw next year too. Define legit starter and then we can talk. Alabi could easily be an active player that could get decent minutes as a starting C if his body is indeed healthy again.
I still say we're gonna want an experienced Center to work with Alabi and than Jonas. You're right i haven't seen his workouts, but i just think that going by what they were saying at the end of June the Center spot is their main priority (which is what they said). If Alabi starts, who's the backup if Jonas isn't here yet? Like i said, i hope he could be the starting Center b/c our bigs would then be set for years to come. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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hey man. If Dwayne Casey is working this guy out and is saying he can compete, there shouldn't be ONE comment on here that is anything but positive.

Alabi, just like any other player, can wok hard and learn the game and get better. If he shows up to a camp and he's killing whoever your fancy draft pick is, who cares???

I haven't seen Alabi at all. Just in small doses. but I am tickled pink if this kid is a late developing Dikembe type.....just fucking ecstatic actually. So should all of you be. The Raptors don't seem to catch a lot of breaks or get much luck.... don't be so quick to hate on the situation boys.
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Argue? Who the fuck is arguing. I can't say anything anymore without hearing from the peanut gallery. It was an opinion based on what they said just prior to the lockout after these workouts. And like i said i hope he's that good next season and can start legitimately b/c we'd be set. Hopefully that was more to your liking in the positivity department?
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hey man. If Dwayne Casey is working this guy out and is saying he can compete, there shouldn't be ONE comment on here that is anything but positive.

Alabi, just like any other player, can wok hard and learn the game and get better. If he shows up to a camp and he's killing whoever your fancy draft pick is, who cares???

I haven't seen Alabi at all. Just in small doses. but I am tickled pink if this kid is a late developing Dikembe type.....just fucking ecstatic actually. So should all of you be. The Raptors don't seem to catch a lot of breaks or get much luck.... don't be so quick to hate on the situation boys.
Couldn't agree more. Which is why i'm saying that hopefully he can be the starter next season. We'd be set. He certainly has a great attitude.
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hey man. If Dwayne Casey is working this guy out and is saying he can compete, there shouldn't be ONE comment on here that is anything but positive.

Alabi, just like any other player, can wok hard and learn the game and get better. If he shows up to a camp and he's killing whoever your fancy draft pick is, who cares???

I haven't seen Alabi at all. Just in small doses. but I am tickled pink if this kid is a late developing Dikembe type.....just fucking ecstatic actually. So should all of you be. The Raptors don't seem to catch a lot of breaks or get much luck.... don't be so quick to hate on the situation boys.
Just a little sample of what he could be. Surprising not much Youtube footage of him. He has nice mid range game for a 7'1'' center and is one of those raw prospects who starter playing the game very late in his teens.



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Funny how good people COULD be. I watched the video and immediately saw how poor his body posture was while approaching the ket looking for the pass. As well, his hands are too loose and he doesn't have them out and strong and ready for the pass. But these are small things he can and maybe is learning.

Like I said, I'd absolutely love it if this guy really is in the gym like a madman, hitting the weights, hitting the shots, learning the footwork. Big guys like this don't fall outta tree's.
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You're right SJ... athletic bigs like this kid don't show up as often as most would think. Props to the OP for finding this story, we needed a new topic badly!

Alabi may not ever be an all-star but he could definitely be a quality big for many years.
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You're right SJ... athletic bigs like this kid don't show up as often as most would think. Props to the OP for finding this story, we needed a new topic badly!

Alabi may not ever be an all-star but he could definitely be a quality big for many years.
If he can be a good contributor and Jonas lives up to the hype, add to that our PF's we then start looking good up front with three 7 footers.
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If he can be a good contributor and Jonas lives up to the hype, add to that our PF's we then start looking good up front with three 7 footers.
+1.... it's a league dominated by teams with size and length and others always searching for more of it.
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+1.... it's a league dominated by teams with size and length and others always searching for more of it.
The one thing i worry about is how much time is Davis going to get? That is one prospect that if he gets good minutes is a double double machine and can defend/block shots. I seriously worry that he will be the one big that has to take a step back minutes wise which could stunt his growth. If Bargnani stays as the PF long term one of Davis/Amir will have to go at some point.
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The one thing i worry about is how much time is Davis going to get? That is one prospect that if he gets good minutes is a double double machine and can defend/block shots. I seriously worry that he will be the one big that has to take a step back minutes wise which could stunt his growth. If Bargnani stays as the PF long term one of Davis/Amir will have to go at some point.
I see your point, but I also believe a player doesn't need 30 minutes to improve.... practice time is just as important as is consistent minutes. Injuries always strike with bigs, so we shouldn't even really worry about that in my opinion.

As long as this team has been searching for a legit C, I think it's a good problem.
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having lots of good players is never a bad thing. Thats how you trade to improve other positions.



Maybe, Alibi can have an Awesome Era like Rasho!!!!!


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Maybe, Alibi can have an Awesome Era like Rasho!!!!!




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He's 7'1" with a a pretty good wingspan and nice timing for a shot blocker. It's funny how Jeff says there's no way he's getting a sniff at starter's minutes. We won 30 games last year! We aren't a playoff team! We can't afford proven centres (as the article points out)!
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