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Old 11-17-2013, 11:41 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Maybe you're right. Bringing him into this tank nation and letting attack the basket only 4-5 times every game, along with JV, would be too painful to watch. I hope these two will form Twin Towers II in other NBA team someday. After all, every single Raptors franchise player left the team and had much more successful career parts in other teams, so you never know what is going to happen.
Good thing D-Mo isnt a franchise player and never will be and it's unlikely JV becomes better than Joakim Noah.

Since the team is so doomed and shitty, why watch? I'm sure there are plenty of Lithuanians to watch in Euroleague, and since the NBA is a "run and dunk circus" you shouldn't give a shit about our team.
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Good thing D-Mo isnt a franchise player and never will be and it's unlikely JV becomes better than Joakim Noah.

Since the team is so doomed and shitty, why watch? I'm sure there are plenty of Lithuanians to watch in Euroleague, and since the NBA is a "run and dunk circus" you shouldn't give a shit about our team.
Noah is possibly the best center in the NBA since he don't have free-throw trouble like Howard. JV don't have it either. Joakim also was named All-Star last year. What else do you want from center to be franchise player? 30+ PPG? Chamberlain and Olajuwon eras passed away long time ago.
And about D-Mo... Well David Lee, Joakim Noah started with 5 PPG in their first seasons. Now they both are All-Stars and unaffordable treasures to Raptors. Never say never.
I'm watching Raps just because of JV and Spurs, Heat because it's not made up from selfish glory hunters. NBA will never have such team play like Euroleague. NBA is about highlights, Euroleague is about trophies. Three seconds rule proves it.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:05 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Good thing D-Mo isnt a franchise player and never will be and it's unlikely JV becomes better than Joakim Noah.

Since the team is so doomed and shitty, why watch? I'm sure there are plenty of Lithuanians to watch in Euroleague, and since the NBA is a "run and dunk circus" you shouldn't give a shit about our team.
Personally I like basketball and enjoy watching a good game, it has nothing to do what nationality players are on the floor.
As for the "run and dunk circus", I'd recommend watching a proper NBA team play (Spurs for example), you would be surprised that offense doesn't have to be all in chaos..

oh and take a look at this weeks highlights from another side of the ocean:
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Franchise players are guys who can lead a team to the playoffs and/or are top 10 players. Joakim Noah is none of those, I doubt JV will ever be better than him, and I can damn near guarantee Motiejunas won't be.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:12 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I see Daye is getting bashed whilst never having really played any legit minutes since the beginning of the season. What's up with that? We need floor spacers and he could be a serious 3-point threat.
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why not.
but gray for d-mo, you would have to give up a 1st pick i suppose to do that.

but i suppose gray + 1st NYK for d-mo can be done. Houston have 3 or 4 PF, so maybe they will consider it. but frankly i think they will be more attract to a player like Novak than gray. and if it's he case, there goes our 3pts specialist.
What our 3 point specialist Novak did against Portland in OT?
>0 thats it. we have DD and RG to shoot 3's.
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What our 3 point specialist Novak did against Portland in OT?
>0 thats it. we have DD and RG to shoot 3's.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:07 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I see Daye is getting bashed whilst never having really played any legit minutes since the beginning of the season. What's up with that? We need floor spacers and he could be a serious 3-point threat.
Hard to believe you could actually write this.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:17 PM   #69 (permalink)
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like I said in the other post, both demar and rudy were 40% from 3 this season. The reason I checked was because I had a feeling the percentage will be good.

the problem is most of the shots they're taking are long 2s and heavily contested near the basket shots.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:12 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I told you that he can and that he will succeed some day! Some were laughing, some were calling him a scrub like Daye. But Motiejūnas is used to that already a long while ago. He again and again proves that he can play. Without media, without agents, without ads. Just by a hard work. That's why he is truly special. I remember when he was Žalgiris member and averaged 1.3 points per game in Euroleague and he said: "F**k that, I want to play" and moved to Italy, where he averaged 10 points and 5 rebounds in EuroCup (second-tier league in Europe). Some were calling him arrogant because he left legendary Lithuanian club, but he was just working even harder and ignored all the skeptics. Not surprisingly, he was drafted and moved into the NBA. And here the story begins once again. He was benched badly for one and a half season (just like in his early career), everybody was talking about Valančiūnas and were forgetting about D-Mo, but he didn't gave up and was waiting for his chance. Again. And guess what? He finally got it after some injuries in Rockets roster. Here is his numbers since January 15 (after getting ~20 minutes every game and excluding one game when he attacked the basket only once on January 25): 8.25 points (FG: 53%), 7 rebounds. In a team which has such stars like Howard, Harden and I'm sure he is only starting to get in shape after being benched for so long as he had 12 points and 13 rebounds against the Mavericks yesterday (by the way, the Rockets won by one point and he was playing during the last seconds). I'm sure he is not as cheap as he was a month ago. The only question is how much he will be worth after a month or two if Rockets will let him constantly play his 20 minutes. Motiejūnas is as good as Valančiūnas, but the media didn't made him a star yet as he was overshadowed by JV in his early career and had bad luck with his first NBA team. Valančiūnas would be in the same situation if he would be a Rocket (if not even worse). Just remember how angry Raptors fans were when Colangelo drafted JV.
Here is my idea: why not to trade Hansbrough for D-Mo? Rockets could be interested in that as they're planning to get rid of Motiejūnas and Asik and another bench PF/C who is satisfied with his bench role could be useful. Amir, JV, D-Mo should fit together in Raptors as well because all of them can play solid defense, rebound, Amir and D-Mo can play either PF or C. The trio could play ~30 minutes each and supplement each other (Amir is the strongest, JV is the best blocker, D-Mo can shoot three-pointers and mid-rangers). It would be a truly powerful, perspective big mans combination. Imagine adding someone like Wiggins some day into this and Ross if he will develop as fast as now. If Raptors are planning to win titles, they will need a big man with ability to score outside the paint anyway because all the NBA champions had such players: Heat - Bosh, Mavericks - Nowitzki, Lakers - Pau Gasol, Celtics - Garnett, Spurs - Duncan and so on.

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And here the story begins once again. He was benched badly for one and a half season (just like in his early career), everybody was talking about Valančiūnas and were forgetting about D-Mo, but he didn't gave up and was waiting for his chance.Motiejūnas is as good as Valančiūnas, but the media didn't made him a star yet as he was overshadowed by JV in his early career and had bad luck with his first NBA team. Valančiūnas would be in the same situation if he would be a Rocket (if not even worse). If Raptors are planning to win titles, they will need a big man with ability to score outside the paint anyway because all the NBA champions had such players: Heat - Bosh, Mavericks - Nowitzki, Lakers - Pau Gasol, Celtics - Garnett, Spurs - Duncan and so on.


D-Mo is that you??
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I told you that he can and that he will succeed some day! Some were laughing, some were calling him a scrub like Daye. But Motiejūnas is used to that already a long while ago. He again and again proves that he can play. Without media, without agents, without ads. Just by a hard work. That's why he is truly special. I remember when he was Žalgiris member and averaged 1.3 points per game in Euroleague and he said: "F**k that, I want to play" and moved to Italy, where he averaged 10 points and 5 rebounds in EuroCup (second-tier league in Europe). Some were calling him arrogant because he left legendary Lithuanian club, but he was just working even harder and ignored all the skeptics. Not surprisingly, he was drafted and moved into the NBA. And here the story begins once again. He was benched badly for one and a half season (just like in his early career), everybody was talking about Valančiūnas and were forgetting about D-Mo, but he didn't gave up and was waiting for his chance. Again. And guess what? He finally got it after some injuries in Rockets roster. Here is his numbers since January 15 (after getting ~20 minutes every game and excluding one game when he attacked the basket only once on January 25): 8.25 points (FG: 53%), 7 rebounds. In a team which has such stars like Howard, Harden and I'm sure he is only starting to get in shape after being benched for so long as he had 12 points and 13 rebounds against the Mavericks yesterday (by the way, the Rockets won by one point and he was playing during the last seconds). I'm sure he is not as cheap as he was a month ago. The only question is how much he will be worth after a month or two if Rockets will let him constantly play his 20 minutes. Motiejūnas is as good as Valančiūnas, but the media didn't made him a star yet as he was overshadowed by JV in his early career and had bad luck with his first NBA team. Valančiūnas would be in the same situation if he would be a Rocket (if not even worse). Just remember how angry Raptors fans were when Colangelo drafted JV.
Here is my idea: why not to trade Hansbrough for D-Mo? Rockets could be interested in that as they're planning to get rid of Motiejūnas and Asik and another bench PF/C who is satisfied with his bench role could be useful. Amir, JV, D-Mo should fit together in Raptors as well because all of them can play solid defense, rebound, Amir and D-Mo can play either PF or C. The trio could play ~30 minutes each and supplement each other (Amir is the strongest, JV is the best blocker, D-Mo can shoot three-pointers and mid-rangers). It would be a truly powerful, perspective big mans combination. Imagine adding someone like Wiggins some day into this and Ross if he will develop as fast as now. If Raptors are planning to win titles, they will need a big man with ability to score outside the paint anyway because all the NBA champions had such players: Heat - Bosh, Mavericks - Nowitzki, Lakers - Pau Gasol, Celtics - Garnett, Spurs - Duncan and so on.
Offer still stands. Daye for D.No
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We have Patrick Paterson who can shoot the 3 better tan D-Mo is only one year older and a better player. We don't really need another PF, not sure why you have this obsession to try and convince us that we need Motiejunas. There are plenty other teams he can go to, if he is not happy being in Houston.
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:21 PM   #74 (permalink)
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He just do not fit in here right now, with everybody healthy he would sit on the bench with Daye and Buycks.
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Austin Daye is on the Raptors?!?
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