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Old 02-27-2014, 11:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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So far we've been extremely lucky with lack of injuries
50 wins this season? Don't think so.
I dont think it has to do with luck. It has to do with thanking BC for hiring alex mckechnie. Look at what happened to the Lakers after he left. Yeah they had new players, but it is argued all those injuries wouldnt have happened if he was still there. Dude is one of the best if not the best at what he does.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
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For example, if the team is 22-5 against below .500 teams, and 4-8 against above .500 teams, as moremilk stated, and you apply those winning rates across a definitively average season (41 games against winning teams, 41 against losing ones), that projects to 33-8 against sub-500 teams and 14-27 against above .500 teams. For a total record of 47 wins. Very nice, but not .600. And that's assuming we keep up the dominance against sub-500 teams.
It's one win away from our current projection actually, which goes to show that 6-12 record with gay was mostly due to the tough schedule. It's also a near .600 record, which is good, but not great. Also, the jump from .400 to .600 is way easier than the jump from .600 to .700, because in the latter case, all the extra wins need to come from over .500 teams.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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also, the .500 level is pretty artificial, nothing magical about it. A better approach is probably to break the teams into 4 categories (elite - ind/mia/sas/okc/clippers, good - gsw/hou/por/pho/dal/chi/was/mem, average - most of the rest and bad - the truly awful teams).

Right now we are probably in that second category, towards the end with chi/was. The next step in our progression is to move to the top of that category, which would require a .600 record or so against those teams. I think we are roughly .500 so far, but that's mostly because we've dominated the wizards - take them out from the group (they are borderline) and we've been fairly bad. We still have a bunch of games against good teams this season though, so we'll get a more complete answer with the larger sample size.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I dont think it has to do with luck. It has to do with thanking BC for hiring alex mckechnie. Look at what happened to the Lakers after he left. Yeah they had new players, but it is argued all those injuries wouldnt have happened if he was still there. Dude is one of the best if not the best at what he does.
doubt it, nash is so old and bryant's was a mechanical injury, not much anybody can do about that. Maybe he can help with preventing the little injuries, but an ACL tear or something like that is purely luck.
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I dont think it has to do with luck. It has to do with thanking BC for hiring alex mckechnie. Look at what happened to the Lakers after he left. Yeah they had new players, but it is argued all those injuries wouldnt have happened if he was still there. Dude is one of the best if not the best at what he does.

It is luck. You can do whatever you want, but it is hard to prevent freak injuries that happen every year. It is just bad luck. Sometimes injuries happen because of landing wrong, being hit by another player(Westbrook injury), etc.

A lot of injuries are just bad luck. Now some injuries have to do with training and not being in shape, but a lot of them are just being unlucky.
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I agree with OP. The hardest SOS in the Eastern Conference this season and nonstop Gay isos definitely ate into what our winning percentage could have been. In this conference this year we're a .600% team. When the conference improves I can't exactly say we'll be that dominant, not to mention the possibility of injuries. However, as much as people hate to believe in leaving things be, organic growth really will be the next step for us as Jonas and TRoss becoming better players are the key to finding the ceiling of this team. An 8-man core of the starters plus Hansbrough, Patterson and Vasquez should be an above .500% team now and easily for the next three to four years.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:54 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think we still have some ways to go before becoming a .600 team. The East is incredibly weak this year. This led to probably an inflated win-loss record. If you look to our record vs. Western Conference, it's at a respectable 10-12. Once the East tightens up, I think that's where our record will be around.

We still got to improve, otherwise we are in for disappointment.
Well said.

Look at every Eastern team's record against the West and look at teams from the West and their record against the East. The disparity is quite alarming. I hope the raps can finish with a record that would qualify them in the West playoffs but it'll be very tough.

And yes there is a lot to improve.

And this is the Raps being extremely lucky with injuries this season. I would like to tip my hat to RaptorsandBuckeye FaN.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well Alex mckechnie has his work cut out for him. Amir is banged up Kyle got hurt and so did Ross I really hope by the beginning of the playoffs we can be 100%
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Well Alex mckechnie has his work cut out for him. Amir is banged up Kyle got hurt and so did Ross I really hope by the beginning of the playoffs we can be 100%
Likely no team in the NBA is 100% going into the playoffs. Hope he can do for those guys whatever he did for Demar.
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Damn, you guys sure?

It is what it is. Much like they are no excuses accepted for losses, there are no fake wins ether. They're now 31-15 with this unit since Gay days.

-best 4th quarter team in the league. i.e the time when teams impose their will.
-injuries and dings to TH, Amir, Salmons, Ross and Patterson, they keep rolling.
-home or road, doesn't matter
-teams that are sooooo much better than this one fight to the death to win by a point or 2 if they win at all
-I can also argue that even one round in the playoffs is worth so much to growth

I understand it's harder to make the argument when your best player is about to be a UFA. (Fans better start sucking up to Lowry. If he walks, we blew it)

But going forward, even with other teams making improvements, I don't see any reason why "organic growth" to Ross and JV, and smart use of assets, picks and spending would not see a team currently playing at a .674 level find a way to play at a .600 level.

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