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'trane 07-06-2011 10:34 AM

2010-2011 RF Player Report Cards - Demar Derozan
 
Greetings everyone. Over the next couple of weeks the mod and admin team will be releasing our annual RF Player Report Cards for the 2010-11 season. It was a long year with plenty of lows, but we're still here, right? Time to take a look back and rate the play of our heroes as they stumbled their way to a 22 and 60 season. Enjoy, and thanks to LX for the images!

First up is Demar Derozan.


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'trane

A great year for Demar. He still has lots to improve on – defense is inconsistent and 3 point shooting is abysmal – but he is becoming a confident offensive weapon, capable of taking the last shot. His attitude also seems to be a big part of the camaraderie that has developed, especially amidst the negativity of a losing season. Demar’s growth has been a bright spot this year.

Grade: A
•RF•

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LX

He's become increasingly consistent offensively, and without playing on an island. If he continues to improve, then he's going to be able to help this team make a nice jump. With Ed and Amir I can see a core of players that can allow good team play to bring some wins as they all continue to develop and get stronger.

Grade: A-
•RF•

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oneironaught

As a rookie who was limited to a dribble or two off the bounce, shot the ball like he was trying to break the back board, and couldn't finish in traffic despite being an athlete, I had low expectations for Demar's sophomore campaign. But he certainly proved me wrong, and then some:

- handles, shot mechanics vastly improved.
- post game more diverse
- crafty in lane - dig that euro step
- doesn't need the ball to contribute - utilizes screens well

Defensively though, there is much to be learned, young padawan. Namely, close outs.

I'll wrap it up with a quote from the exalted George Costanza, who said, "it's not a lie, if you believe it". Despite contradicting general belief, Demar thinks he can be one of the best players in this league. If he persists in that belief, and the trend of doubling his point totals year in year out, he'll prove the doubters wrong, all while averaging 1088 points or so by his 8th year.


Grade: A-
•RF•

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fancylad


He showed promise last season and has delivered on that promise this time around. well pretty much. You know what? Going by his age and pre-NBA experience i am going to say this was his real rookie year and with that in mind i think he was pretty damn awesome. The guy is totally reliable with that mid range jumper and he still has the best hops in the league. and because i still consider him a rookie (yeah i am kinda joking - but not really!) i won't shit on him for his defense. That will naturally become better with experience especially for someone with his athleticism.


Grade: A
•RF•

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Acie


Although he's still a long way away from reaching his full potential, he proved that hard work does really pay off and provided a glimmer of hope in what was otherwise a dismal season.


Grade: A
•RF•

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INSIDER

i have to admit, when we drafted him i never thought DD would be anything more than an athletic dime-a-dozen wing. i am happy to be eating my words.
DD grew in leaps and bounds this season and flourished in his second year. improving on all aspects of his game; his jumpshot, his D, his ballhandling.... he stepped up his entire game - and he doesnt look to be stopping.
His growth from year one to year two was fantastic, and was the complete opposite of his counterparts (Tyreke evans, etc) who suffered the sophomore curse and struggled.

DD is our brightest star and I am confident he will continue his upward trend for next year... 20/5/5 for 2012???? i dont see why not?


Grade: A
•RF•



Now it's your turn, RF. Let us know what you thought of Demar in 10-11.



Coming up next - Ed Davis

thought 07-06-2011 10:39 AM

i don't know how realistic 20/5/5 is for next year but i can totally see him averaging 1088 ppg in his 8th year.

Snooch 07-06-2011 11:07 AM

B tops.

Still has a pretty bad shot outside of the midrange and something about his form just doesnt seem right, still looks lost handling the ball.

Assist numbers are lower than should be for a sg but he cant handle the ball so that should improve with improvement in that area.

if he is half as athletic as people make him out to be he should be grabbing at least 1 more rebound cause there is enough to go around on this team.

He needs to become a better defender and should have improved in that area this past season and didnt. but he gets a pass for now cause the whole team sucked at defense.

Good kid hard worker but not an A.

INSIDER 07-06-2011 11:17 AM

from January on, didnt he average 20pg? he turned it on in the second half when the team gave up on Bargnani.

dfunkie1 07-06-2011 11:19 AM

i'm leaning towards snooch's assessment. i don't think he warrants an A, but his development throughout the season was exciting. i'm not concerned about his 3pt shooting, but his defence and ball handle is something that need significant improvement if he wasn't to become a potential 1st/2nd option on a winning team.

-A for his development
-B for his play

jeffb 07-06-2011 11:37 AM

Offense- A
Rebounding- B
Defence- C

RAPMAN 07-06-2011 11:37 AM

His hard work showed on the offensive end. He showed a willigness to get to the rim but did not get the benefit off call from the refs. If he continues the consistency of getting to the rim, the refs will eventually give him the calls. A tighter handle, more upper body strength will lead to a consistent 20 point scorer night-in, night-out in the NBA.

Maybe it was a coach who did not promote defensive accountability, or veternan players on the team like Bargnani, Calderon, Barbosa who wanted nothing to do with defense, but Derozan was a poor defender. If Derozan will be the leader on this team, he should show more effort and sacrifice (like Amir) on defense on a nightly basis.

In his first year, he had Jarret Jack as a positive influence. Bring in some good veternans like Arron Affalo, Prince or Tyson Chandler to bring in the defensive focus with Demar and the rest of our young players.

The grade is B.

powerfulpanda 07-06-2011 11:51 AM

i don't understand the Bs. i gave an A without any hesitation.
B in my books would have been that demar met expectations. that his growth as a player was something natural for a 2nd year player.
but he went beyond expectations! and then some.
how many of us expected this jump from him? i certainly didn't. he definitely deserves an A

jeffb 07-06-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 557757)
i don't understand the Bs. i gave an A without any hesitation.
B in my books would have been that demar met expectations. that his growth as a player was something natural for a 2nd year player.
but he went beyond expectations! and then some.
how many of us expected this jump from him? i certainly didn't. he definitely deserves an A

He met expectations offensively. Everything else was pretty much the same as his rookie season, namely defense, rebounding, assists, ball handling.

B is what he should get imo. An A is the ceiling which he's not close to yet, i hope. Nobody on this team deserves an A.

Beans 07-06-2011 12:04 PM

DWade is my mental image for what a shooting guard should be. DWade in his second year averaged 24/7/5. So if DWade in his second year gets an A+, then Derozan gets a B.

He showed a lot of mental toughness in not complaining when the refs didn't give him calls when he drove to the rim this year. He maintained a positive attitude throughout a losing season. I'm really relieved that he stayed healthy the whole season.

I think good shooting guards average 4 or 5 assists per game, and Derozan only averaged 2. His defense obviously needs work, as does his rebounding and 3 point shooting.

dfunkie1 07-06-2011 12:06 PM

wade was also two-three years older than demar with two-three years more college experience than demar. you can't compare the two together as far as progression goes. it's not fair.

powerfulpanda 07-06-2011 12:10 PM

^
exactly and no one is expecting demar to become a player of wade's calibur anyways so why is wade even used as a benchmark??

Beans 07-06-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 557766)
^
exactly and no one is expecting demar to become a player of wade's calibur anyways so why is wade even used as a benchmark??

Someone needs to explain to me the accepted way to produce a grade then. I'm supposed to factor in that Demar might never be a great SG, and his age?

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 557766)
B in my books would have been that demar met expectations. that his growth as a player was something natural for a 2nd year player.

C (average grade) to me means that someone met expectations.

jeffb 07-06-2011 12:28 PM

I love Demar but a SG that can't shoot 3's, doesn't get many assists, isn't very good defensively and is an average ball handler at best...getting A's?

powerfulpanda 07-06-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Beans (Post 557772)
Someone needs to explain to me the accepted way to produce a grade then. I'm supposed to factor in that Demar might never be a great SG, and his age?

well whenever ur giving our grades like this its a lot of personal opinion so thats where disagreements can occur. theres no accepted way, but my thought process is that you should just grade him on this one year alone. take into account this is his 2nd year, where he came from from last year, what did people generally expect outta him, etc
when ur using wade as the standard for an A, then likely no sg would get an A because wade is a top 5 player. those are definitely not the expectations for demar. heck, people here would be more than happy if he turned out to be a borderline allstar.

hope this helps

carp 07-06-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 557766)
^
exactly and no one is expecting demar to become a player of wade's calibur anyways so why is wade even used as a benchmark??

Wade wasn't expected to become a player of Wade's calibur... otherwise he would have been drafted earlier than 5th overall.

TM85 07-06-2011 12:44 PM

He showed improvement but still has a long ways to go.

powerfulpanda 07-06-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 557778)
Wade wasn't expected to become a player of Wade's calibur... otherwise he would have been drafted earlier than 5th overall.

true, but even starting from his rookie year you knew he was going to be special and should of been drafted higher in hindsight. so expectations changed since then

powerfulpanda 07-06-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 557773)
I love Demar but a SG that can't shoot 3's, doesn't get many assists, isn't very good defensively and is an average ball handler at best...getting A's?

considering we're only judging him on his 2nd year and the jump he made from his rookie year, and how many people he's surpassed in his draft class. i think an A is alright. if those issues that u listed still existed during his 3rd year then, no, he's not getting an A

dfunkie1 07-06-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 557778)
Wade wasn't expected to become a player of Wade's calibur... otherwise he would have been drafted earlier than 5th overall.

wade was thought to be a high calibre player. he was just drafted after bosh, james, anthony and dorko. don't let his draft position confuse his projections of nba player.


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