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'trane 07-12-2011 08:59 AM

2010-11 RF Player Report Card - Jerryd Bayless
 
Next up in our 2010-11 RF Player Report Cards:

Jerryd Bayless


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'trane

There was at least one solid move by Colangelo this year. Swapping out Jarret for Jerryd gave us a low-risk, high reward opportunity with a young player who is still on a rookie deal. He showed great play in extended starter minutes towards the end of the season, but he needs to make better decisions with the ball. Is he a future starter, or a streaky 6th man? Is he a 1 or an undersized 2? Time will tell.


Grade: B-
•RF•

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LX

What jumped out at me about Bayless, was his ability to impose his will on a game, and to lead under some difficult circumstances. I will be very interested to see how he could fill a more consistently, well-defined role. In my mind he could fill Barbosa's shoes as a combo guard coming off the bench. It would be nice to see him settle into something on a more permanent basis, as his game was up and down to coincide with being expected to do so many different things this season.

Grade: B-
•RF•

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oneironaught

- good numbers as a starter
- big time shot making in crunch
- played through injuries
- can break down and blow by his man
- attacks the rim, sometimes too aggressively
- plays with fire, on both ends

Needs to learn how to play at different speeds. Probe defenses, instead of just darting to the rim and chucking from his hip. Also needs to shave his head. All in all, a seemingly fruitful acquisition.


Grade: C+
•RF•

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Acie

A very talented player, who doesn't put up with any shit and plays with passion. If he can develop a better feel for the PG position, we've got ourselves a keeper folks.

Grade: C
•RF•

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INSIDER

i've always been a fan of Jerryd, and thought he was wasting away on the Portland bench in his first 2 years... I always thought that this kid - on a shit team - would explode and put up huge numbers. therefore, i was a bit underwhelmed with his showing as a Raptor when he had the minutes to show his worth.
dont get me wrong, im happy he's a raptor and hope he'll be one for a long time, I just thought he would have made a bigger impact this season, but ended up being just barely average.

i like his passion and his fire, but he's still very inconsistant and every game he goes through a spell where he loses control and becomes a turnover machine.
I think that with experience and time, Jerryd can blossom into a fantastic player... but for now he's just a back up.
If theres one raptor im rooting for to become a star its him... i really hope he works hard this offseason.


Grade: C+
•RF•



Now it's your turn, RF. Let us know what you thought of Jerryd Bayless in 10-11.



Coming up next - Amir Johnson

DanH 07-12-2011 09:28 AM

Oh, Bayless. Here's the thing. I was freaking impressed by his individual game. He put up good stats, he could score at will, he held his own on defense, as much as anyone can in Triano's system, he's got a competitive fire in him. All great.

But he just somehow hurt the team every time he stepped on the floor. Sure, sometimes he'd spark a run, but he'd have to put the offense on his back to do it, and more often than not that just ended up taking his teammates out of the game. The offense just dies when he is running the team. When you have a league worst defense, that offense has to run like a well oiled machine.

So, he has the talent to score, and even made a decent number of assists in his few starts, but with his overall impact and meh defense, I've got to go with a C. He did better in some aspects than I expected him to, but worse in others. Still, will be very interested to see what he can do next year - hopefully that stretch of games starting at the end of the year will help him figure it out consistently.

StartingBench 07-12-2011 09:36 AM

I gave him a C. Good player, but I know he can do better.

js12 07-12-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by StartingBench (Post 559385)
I gave him a C. Good player, but I know he can do better.

Same. There are points last season where he looked awesome, especially when he got in the starting lineup. I don't know why, but when he comes off the bench he plays terrible. As a substitute, he tries to force the issue and made terrible decisions. He has great potential, but doesn't always play up to it.

6cubed 07-12-2011 09:54 AM

- Undersized SG
- PG with no playmaking skills
- Out of control driving to the basket

js12 07-12-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 6cubed (Post 559390)
- Undersized SG
- PG with no playmaking skills
- Out of control driving to the basket

Lol, that is a bit harsh.

He needs to work on playmaking and decision making for sure. But he has a lot of intriguing elements. Great first step and quickness, knows how to pull of a killer cross-over, and is relatively good at jump shots if used sparingly.

bjjs 07-12-2011 10:47 AM

Always trying to be a hero.

jeffb 07-12-2011 11:25 AM

B-


This would have been a C- for me but i was really impressed with his final 20 games last season most of which while Jose was hurt yet again. He seemed to share the ball a little more while still scoring well. He needs to sacrifice some of his scoring (maybe 16ppg instead of shooting for 20ppg) and become a more consistent passer. A PG can do both. If he's giving us 15-16/7 i'd be pretty happy.

Until the All-Star break he was unbelievably inconsistent and when his minutes were more limited (14-20mpg) he struggled to get things going. It was only when his minutes were extended that he played well. IMO he'll pout if he's not the starter next season, and if he doesn't pout outwardly he'll still be inconsistent coming off the bench. He also needs to be more consistent defensively, hopefully Casey helps there b/c Bayless has the tools to be better on D. I'm still not sold on him as the starter long term though but i wouldn't mind seeing if he can do it.

Beans 07-12-2011 11:35 AM

C

I find Bayless to be the most frustrating Raptor to watch. When he's playing well he looks like Derrick Rose's brother and I'm excited for the future of the Raps. When he's playing poorly he's almost embarrassing.

Gurk 07-12-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Beans (Post 559423)
C

I find Bayless to be the most frustrating Raptor to watch. When he's playing well he looks like Derrick Rose's brother and I'm excited for the future of the Raps. When he's playing poorly he's almost embarrassing.

+17984697126417264

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J-Bo 07-12-2011 12:13 PM

C+

I have faith he will turn into a great player tho, i hope we keep him

fancylad 07-12-2011 12:19 PM

by the time he started playing good, i stopped watching the games.

Right after the trade i became super excited having seen his first few performances. He looked like a real stud PG. ... and then came the bulk of the games this season where he made Jose Calderon look like an allstar. Hopefully it will all click with JerryD . He has the talent to do well.

6cubed 07-12-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 559419)
B-

This would have been a C- for me but i was really impressed with his final 20 games last season most of which while Jose was hurt yet again.

More minutes = better stats :reporter:

The kid needs to go to Steve Nash camp or related because he has no PG skills whatsoever. I've heard about the age excuse countless times but PGs, unlike say young Cs, develop their games at an earlier age. Bayless just doesn't have PG instincts and I'm pessimistic about his ability to gain any with more experience. When he tries to score he's either too erratic or selfish. He probably thinks, "let me put my head down and charge the basket at full speed, put up a prayer and hope to be bailed out by a foul call."

jeffb 07-12-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 6cubed (Post 559449)
More minutes = better stats :reporter:

Stats aside, he just played better and got more people involved knowing he was gonna get 30 minutes. I think when he's coming off the bench he thinks he needs to be the offensive spark and has a tendancy to come in try to do too much on his own. He plays a more team game when he gets the minutes and plays more selfishly off the bench because he knows he has limitations on his minutes. At least that's what it seemed like to me.

Superjudge 07-12-2011 02:12 PM

I gave him an 'A'.

I thought he showed a ton of progress. I'm only rating him that. He isn't great but he made nice strides it seemed.

The other intangible that got him an A from me was his willingness to come to a new team, as a stiff, and assert himself with effort and intensity. Thats a young leader in training. There were five guys on the floor at all times for Dallas in the playoffs this past year, thats why the won.

I don't think it's easy to come to a new team and play that way, not when your role was so limited on your last team. For that reason, for his ability to make that change, take that stance, and actually improve his confidence 2 fold.... he gets an A.

if 11 other players displayed that type of intensity, this ain't a 22 win team.

Dark Knight 07-12-2011 03:52 PM

Plays with heart, still has the potential to become a good player in this league.

B.

TORaptor4Ever 07-12-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bjjs (Post 559406)
Always trying to be a hero.

True. Mainly because that's what this team needed badly though.... esp. with no Bosh last year.

I was just happy to watch someone who seemed to actually CARE when he was out there on the floor.

RAPMAN 07-12-2011 06:25 PM

Love the guy. Some questions regarding decision-making, but the guy competes and plays hard. He uses the best of his physical abilities. One guy who takes to the rim and isn't afraid of the physical contact. How many times do we see this guy take it the rim hard and crash hard to the floor. He should be part of the future, maybe our back-up point guard like Maynor in OKC.

MikeToronto 07-12-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DanH (Post 559384)
Oh, Bayless. Here's the thing. I was freaking impressed by his individual game. He put up good stats, he could score at will, he held his own on defense, as much as anyone can in Triano's system, he's got a competitive fire in him. All great.

But he just somehow hurt the team every time he stepped on the floor. Sure, sometimes he'd spark a run, but he'd have to put the offense on his back to do it, and more often than not that just ended up taking his teammates out of the game. The offense just dies when he is running the team. When you have a league worst defense, that offense has to run like a well oiled machine.

So, he has the talent to score, and even made a decent number of assists in his few starts, but with his overall impact and meh defense, I've got to go with a C. He did better in some aspects than I expected him to, but worse in others. Still, will be very interested to see what he can do next year - hopefully that stretch of games starting at the end of the year will help him figure it out consistently.

+ about a million. :yeah:

Metallikid 07-12-2011 07:22 PM

I'm thinking a C; great strides but a long way to go. Hopefully Casey will stop him when he plays hero ball.


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