2009 Player Evaluations - Jose Calderon

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View Poll Results: How would you grade Jose's season?
A - Greatly exceeded expectations 4 8.16%
B - Exceeded expecatations 7 14.29%
C - Met expecations 16 32.65%
D - Below expectations 18 36.73%
F - Greatly below expecations 4 8.16%
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Today we grade and discuss Jose.

JOSE CALDERON



2008-09 Statistics

PPG 12.8
RPG 2.9
APG 8.9
SPG 1.1
BPG 0.1
FG% 0.497
FT% 0.981
3P% 0.406
MPG 34.3
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This one is tougher than I thought. Expectations were large, he was injured but then again, he was stubborn and refused to rest when he should've.

When he was unhealthy, a D to even an F. When healthy about a B+. I'm not married to those choices though.
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Injuries were the death of Jose this season. Taking that into account I gave him a C.
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I gave him a D largely due to the injury. I know it's not his "fault", but sheeit, his season was below my expectations regardless what the cause of that was.

Now he did show towards the end of the year once he became 100% or close to it that he is still a dynamic and crafty point guard. Definately one that i want running the offense.

Dude has to do all he can to start the next season at 100% and to keep it that way.
If this happens, then the team will flourish.
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I'm going with C-/D+. When healthy he was B, when injured D. Unfortunately he was injured a lot more than healthy this year, well in the timeframe of meaningful games anyways
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dude gave us almost 13 and 9, on nearly 50% shooting and set an nba record for ft%. i know he wasn't perfect, and his injuries hampered him, especially on defense, but what were some of you guys expecting from him that he disappointed so much?

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dude gave us almost 14 and 9, on nearly 50% shooting and set an nba record for ft%. i know he wasn't perfect, and his injuries hampered him, especially on defense, but what were some of you guys expecting from him that he disappointed so much?
since i'm the only one that gave him a D, i will say that I'm grading his season as a whole. when he was hurting (which was for the majority of the year it seemed like), he just wasn't the same player. He was far off from as good as should have been.

It's that simple really.
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No one caught this? "View Poll Results: How would you grade Parker's season? "

I gave Parker a D... lol but in this poll for Calderon I gave him a B. Definitely top 10 PG's in the league.

I think the poll options are pretty wierd though. Does Kobe deserve a C this year because he only met expectations? lol.
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when he played injured - D
when healthy - B
I can't give him a C b/c I expected more during the course of the whole season

D, mostly due to injuries
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I gave him a C. I expected him to put up about 13 and 9, shoot around 50/40/90 and the team to not win as many games as in 06 with TJ at the helm. He performed about what I expected when healthy... shot well, defended bad, played a conservative slow tempo game and our offense struggled because no one can create for themselves.

I will give him props for the last 13 games when he finally started to let go a bit and push the tempo and utilize guys like Marion, Pops and Parker on the break. That combined with BC's quote about hounding Jose to push the tempo and take some risks...essentially to forget what he learned in Europe give me hope that he might become more of the PG this roster needs.
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No one caught this? "View Poll Results: How would you grade Parker's season? "

I gave Parker a D... lol but in this poll for Calderon I gave him a B. Definitely top 10 PG's in the league.

I think the poll options are pretty wierd though. Does Kobe deserve a C this year because he only met expectations? lol.
Yes..think about it, if you rated Kobe an A every year because he's the best SG in the league, then there are no more A's and there wont' be enough letters to grade everyone.

You have to grade them against what they're expected to do based on their role, salary, minutes...whatever factors you deem important.
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Yes..think about it, if you rated Kobe an A every year because he's the best SG in the league, then there are no more A's and there wont' be enough letters to grade everyone.

You have to grade them against what they're expected to do based on their role, salary, minutes...whatever factors you deem important.
So the year after the bulls go 72-10... the next year Jordan gets a D because he didn't meet expectations? lol. I think that's kinda wierd.
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I gave him a C. I expected him to put up about 13 and 9, shoot around 50/40/90 and the team to not win as many games as in 06 with TJ at the helm. He performed about what I expected when healthy... shot well, defended bad, played a conservative slow tempo game and our offense struggled because no one can create for themselves.

I will give him props for the last 13 games when he finally started to let go a bit and push the tempo and utilize guys like Marion, Pops and Parker on the break. That combined with BC's quote about hounding Jose to push the tempo and take some risks...essentially to forget what he learned in Europe give me hope that he might become more of the PG this roster needs.
Forget what he learned in Europe? wow
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So the year after the bulls go 72-10... the next year Jordan gets a D because he didn't meet expectations? lol. I think that's kinda wierd.
Stop oversimplifying...there were other players on the team. How was his performance the year after?

Question. Bargnani averaged 18 and 6 as a starter this year. Next year you expect he'll be 20 and 6. If he does, you'll give him an B for playing good... if he averages 21 and 7 you'll give him an A for beating your expectations...but if he averages 16 and 6 he'll still be effective and a good player but did he meet your expectations? Does he deserve an A ...no.
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I was paraphrasing...: RaptorBlog.com featuring Scott Carefoot - the best Toronto Raptors fan site since 2002

Perhaps the most surprisingly revealing part of the interview was when Colangelo said that he talked to Calderon earlier this season and criticized him for playing too conservatively. We all know Colangelo wants to play an up-tempo style, and he told Jose that he needs to "let it go" and lose some of the "bad habits" he picked up in Europe. Without coming right out and saying it, he implied that he wants Calderon to play more like Steve Nash.
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And thats why Carefoot has no credibilty and has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Calderon obviously needed to "risk" more but that doesnt have anything to do with picking habits in Europe.
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And thats why Carefoot has no credibilty and has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Calderon obviously needed to "risk" more but that doesnt have anything to do with picking habits in Europe.
Sounds to me like he was referring to an interview and actual words BC spoke....if not it's a valid opinion that I share. Some of the habits Jose learned before he came to the NBA(being too passive as an example) should be adjusted and it's nice to see BC taking the approach to help guide Jose.
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I guess.. I just don't like ranking systems where there's a possibility Jake Voskuhl could get an A and Bosh can get a D lol when Vosk averages 1? and .5? and Bosh averages 23 and 10.
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Sounds to me like he was referring to an interview and actual words BC spoke....if not it's a valid opinion that I share. Some of the habits Jose learned before he came to the NBA(being too passive as an example) should be adjusted and it's nice to see BC taking the approach to help guide Jose.
So its Tony Parker passive?, Sergio Rodriguez, Ginobili, Fernandez, Rubio, etc etc etc...

And Calderon is not passive, this year was a mix of wrongfully taking too much care of the ball when sometimes is good to risk a little and being injured.
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I think he deserves a C-. His numbers look fine, but his impact on the court was awful for almost all of the year until the last stretch of games. It was likely because of injury, but still, you cant be the worst defensive PG in the NBA AND not be our main dribble penetrator when you have the ball in your hands 2nd most on the team especially in the halfcourt. His dribble penetration this year was awful and teams didnt even need to adjust to him at all like the year before. Jose needs a real good guard or swingman next to him next year to really show his true value, becuase I dont think hes a top level type of PG where he handles the ball a lot and creates shots for others like Dwill, CP3 etc. Hes more in the 3rd class of PGs just outside the top 10 IMO where he can make shots from anywhere and make some nice passes but shouldnt be the primary ballhandler/playmaker if you expect to win a lot of games.

I was very hard on him this year because I just hate watching us play soft and losing, but again I think his injury had a lot to do with it. I think he'll come back strong next year, and hopefully with a much improved team around him and Bosh he can show his true value like I said before.
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