2009 Player Evaluations - Anthony Parker

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A - Greatly exceeded expectations 0 0%
B - Exceeded expecatations 2 4.88%
C - Met expecations 28 68.29%
D - Below expectations 11 26.83%
F - Greatly below expecations 0 0%
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Today we grade and discuss Mr. Parker.

ANTHONY PARKER



2008-09 Statistics

PPG 10.7
RPG 4.0
APG 3.4
SPG 1.2
BPG 0.2
FG% 0.426
FT% 0.834
3P% 0.390
MPG 33.0
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C. Was solid if unspectacular for the whole year. Didn't disappoint, but didn't "wow." Been the same story since he got here.
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C. Was solid if unspectacular for the whole year. Didn't disappoint, but didn't "wow." Been the same story since he got here.
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renihan - you voted 'd' - what could your expectations of ap be if he didn't manage to live up to them?
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I have to say below:

I always viewed him as the kind of guy who could start in the league, not a top-flight guy by any means, but could hold his own. I thought by many he was very very undervalued.

Sure he didn't fill it up on the offensive end but he got his and he played solid D.

Things I didn't like about Parker this year:
- Cheated too much of defense
- Took that fading turn-around J too early in the clock when we had a chance for a better scoring opportunity.

That said, I hope he is back next year but in a reduced role.

I think maybe I over-valued him
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renihan - you voted 'd' - what could your expectations of ap be if he didn't manage to live up to them?
Wow that was fast! I Just voted! hahaha

Come on 'trane give me a few! I AM at work.....

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this is what concerns me about evaluating a player entirely against one's own expectations. if your expectations are unrealistically high, does that mean the player failed? does ap get a d because you over-valued him, or should he get a c based on his actual performance?
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Wow that was fast! I Just voted! hahaha

Come on 'trane give me a few! I AM at work.....

Working hard or hardly working HA!
ha - sorry man. i jumped the gun. just taking a quick break from work and chumming around here...
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this is what concerns me about evaluating a player entirely against one's own expectations. if your expectations are unrealistically high, does that mean the player failed? does ap get a d because you over-valued him, or should he get a c based on his actual performance?
Maybe, but I don't think he performed to his capabilities.

The cheating on D and those turn-arounds, that's just him being LAZY/ mental errors in my eyes. So I don't know that is my over-value than his actual play, it was his mental game.

Like even if he failed to meet what I wanted out of him (I wanted more than last year) I STILL would have given him a C
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The cheating on D and those turn-arounds, that's just him being LAZY/ mental errors in my eyes. So I don't know that is my over-value than his actual play, it was his mental game.
Yes and no.

As an old man (relative to the rest of the league) he's got to find other ways to be effective that aren't as dependent on quickness he doesn't have anymore. Most vets will cheat on defense because they don't have the ability to get to as many as places on the court as they did back in the day; Anthony Parker just happens to be a bad cheater.

And as far as the fadeaway goes, I wouldn't necessarily chalk that up to laziness. In fact, I can't remember the last time Anthony beat someone off the dribble. That's just a lack of speed. He fades away because it's the best shot for him to take relative to the defense.
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didn't excpect much, I knew he would do his MJ impersonation and age would catch up to him
12/5/4 is the line I had for him, basically did that

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He was good.

Not spectacular, but still good. Proved to be a good PG when needed. He did make a couple of key mistakes too which ended up being crucial.

I give him a C.

Still, i certainly hope he's back in a lesser role.
Basically, i agree with most of you.
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Yes and no.

As an old man (relative to the rest of the league) he's got to find other ways to be effective that aren't as dependent on quickness he doesn't have anymore. Most vets will cheat on defense because they don't have the ability to get to as many as places on the court as they did back in the day; Anthony Parker just happens to be a bad cheater.

And as far as the fadeaway goes, I wouldn't necessarily chalk that up to laziness. In fact, I can't remember the last time Anthony beat someone off the dribble. That's just a lack of speed. He fades away because it's the best shot for him to take relative to the defense.
Yeah I'm not saying he doesn't have a good excuse for cheating on defense, I'm just saying that wasn't what I expected out of him!

Also I agree with him taking the fade-away, I'm ok with that shot, but I'm NOT ok with that shot with 18 seconds left on the clock!
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I'm surprised that all of you are saying "hey he met expectations" but then did you not see our record?

Where does the blame go? I don't recall any of you expecting this record at the start of the year and a lot of the blame is going on the wing players.

AP is one of those 2 wing players. Jamario was the other one but I wouldn't have thought expectations were too high for him.

So where is the disconnect here?!

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I'm disappointed he never found a consistent way to get a shot off in the paint. For a guy who is a slow jumper.
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I'm surprised that all of you are saying "hey he met expectations" but then did you not see our record?

Where does the blame go? I don't recall any of you expecting this record at the start of the year and a lot of the blame is going on the wing players.

AP is one of those 2 wing players. Jamario was the other one but I wouldn't have thought expectations were too high for him.

So where is the disconnect here?!
Was anyone really expecting Parker to average 20 points a game? I wasn't. I chalk up the record to a combination of an injury riddled season for our starting point guard, a failed experiment in Jermaine Oneal, and then a lack of overall roster depth (in that order).

And for myself specifically, Parker met my expectations in general. He didn't EXCEED my expectations, but he didn't really underperform given what his skills are.

It's not like a C is anything to write home about.
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Parker played the point well when asked to, but unfortunately he was set up to fail from the start of the season. On a good team he's a bench player...
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Good effort, going to be a nice player off the bench next year
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D.
We all got a glimpse of what Parker's role on this team could have been like at the end of last season when he played like a veteran champ.

but then this year - he fell flat.
he's a slow starter so i gave him the benefit of the doubt, but as the season progressed, he didnt show any improvement.
PArker's game was flat out sub par and, at times, very invisible.
on a team that (before the Marion trade) was abissmal at the wing position, you'd think Parker would flourish.
seriously, 33 minutes a game is more than enough time to show what you're made of and produce. but a measley 10/3/4 from a starting SG in the NBA given 33 minutes a game is below average.

Moreover, his D is overrated.
he gets torched one-on-one by the top players, and his help D is sometimes nonexistant because he focuses too much on his man.
its a circle of mediocrity... he tries to apply pressure on his man - his help D is shit. he gives his man some space to help out on D - and his man goes on a scoring streak.

watching him play this season, its as if he was always a step too slow, so he was forced to overcompensate on his D pressure and would always get burned.

a great veteran presence for sure, a 6th man role would suit him perfectly - but should not be a starter in today's NBA. he just doesnt have it to play with the bigboys IMO.
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