2008 NBA Draft... 17th selection?

Joshz · 05-07-2008, 05:24 PM

I know its early but who do you see the raps targeting with the 17th selection?
Any preferences? Positions?

Personally i think we need a legitimate scoring wingman, even if its a little bit of a project...think Thadeus Young type for the 76ers, secondary need who than be bruiser or center prospect.

Possibilities (Baring signing with agents)
- Donte Green
- Joe Alexander
- Chase Budinger
- Robin Lopez
- Kosta Koufas
- Roy Hibbert
- Javale McGee

I like Green personally definitely needs some major development, mainly mentally but has all the tools, may not be available, but most mock drafts have him projected around 17. We can than start him behind Moon until he pans out...

I'd love to see us go after an aggressive guard tho, and i love Westbrook's athleticism but he'll be off the board by our pick

05-07-2008, 06:25 PM

the last thing we need to do is wait for a player to develop.
this 17th overall pic better not be what we decide to rely on

Joshz · 05-07-2008, 08:49 PM

At the 17th slot who do you suggest is worthwhile and not a project?
This team is not one fringe player away from contention, a project...someone who will develop into something within the next 2 years seems to fit the peak of this team as we're waiting on Bargnani. A developing player beats a fringe player on a team needing primary scoring...

**Acie** · 05-07-2008, 09:27 PM

That Lopez kid is tough, I'd take him.

**Acie** · 05-07-2008, 09:33 PM

Or trade down and pick Courtney Lee.

dmbphan041 · 05-08-2008, 12:20 AM

Kosta or GTFO

**INSIDER** · 05-08-2008, 12:32 AM

i say we trade this pick... package it with ford or bargs... or both.
we dont need another rookie project...

Dr. J. Naismith · 05-08-2008, 08:47 AM

Welcome the RF Josh!

I'd say if we aren't trading the pick away then I like a Green or Alexander. I love Alexander because he atheltic, strong and isn't afraid of getting physical. For his size too he'll be a great rebounder too.

Green because he's got a ton of potential. Very, very athletic who moves extremely well. Awesome shot blocker and decent on defense. He just needs to beef up a bit because he'd get thrown around at the weight he is now.

MangoKidHoops · 05-08-2008, 10:07 AM

I think Green could be a very good player - especially with his size. The other guys I like are Robin Lopez and if he falls to us - Nic Batum

dmbphan041 · 05-08-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LyRrAd_Nation

I think Green could be a very good player - especially with his size. The other guys I like are Robin Lopez and if he falls to us - Nic Batum

Robin is the lesser Lopez though. The much lesser Lopez.

MangoKidHoops · 05-08-2008, 12:59 PM

Robin is a MUCH better defender and better rebounder. He moves better than Brook. The only thing Brook has over Robin are his offensive moves.

Major · 05-08-2008, 04:19 PM

I agree with insider, trade or pick with TJ in a package for someone. We don't need to rebuild right now. We need to win.

dmbphan041 · 05-09-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

I agree with insider, trade or pick with TJ in a package for someone. We don't need to rebuild right now. We need to win.

and how does one win?

by rebuilding, no?

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 05-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbphan041

and how does one win?

by rebuilding, no?

Not every year..don't be silly. Did Orlando rebuild this year? No..they added key pieces. Did New Orleans rebuild this year? No they added key pieces and got healthy. He's saying don't blow the whole thing up..just tinker but tinker more than last year and I agree.

MangoKidHoops · 05-09-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbphan041

and how does one win?

by rebuilding, no?

Atlanta rebuilt for 9 seasons. Does that count?

**Acie** · 05-09-2008, 06:15 PM

And Atlanta still didn't have a winning season.

slang 1 · 05-09-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACIEEARL40

And Atlanta still didn't have a winning season.

they will next year, imo, horford is a beast! we dont realy need a project tho, i agree, we need rebounding, and toughness. if we cant draft that, we should wash this pick with a trade. i expect to see some kind of deal draft day, im smellin lac. that's for another thread tho, so i wont go there.

dmbphan041 · 05-09-2008, 08:31 PM

point taken.

Joshz · 05-10-2008, 10:52 AM

See i'm not so high on this team. When they shoot well they can beat anybody in the league, but their lack of consistent interior scoring, defense, and rebounding is so apparent. Honestly i attribute it to a lack of athleticism. Other than Bosh (who is undersized forcing him to rely on scoring outside to often) , Bargnani (who plays outside, and is to pussy to mix it up on the boards) Ford (is too small and gets abused against taller guards...Chauncey always dominates TJ) and Moon our team is severely lacking athletically.

This is a need that can be addressed in the Draft, i don't see the additions Colangelo making, considering cap restrictions, and a lack of trade able personnel making a huge impact. If you can package the pick for a legitimate scorer/rebounder, im all for it, just see as being unlikely...plus players with potential can be traded later on, at dealine, for more than they are worth (javaris crittenton, and Kwame's contract for Gasol)

**Ball Don't Lie** · 05-10-2008, 11:58 AM

Who would you guys compare Joe Alexander to? I saw him in the tourny and he was a big athletic white dude with a good hookshot but no jumper.

05-07-2008, 05:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Joshz is Pondering if these are BCs last days Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355 Representing:	2008 NBA Draft... 17th selection? I know its early but who do you see the raps targeting with the 17th selection? Any preferences? Positions? Personally i think we need a legitimate scoring wingman, even if its a little bit of a project...think Thadeus Young type for the 76ers, secondary need who than be bruiser or center prospect. Possibilities (Baring signing with agents) - Donte Green - Joe Alexander - Chase Budinger - Robin Lopez - Kosta Koufas - Roy Hibbert - Javale McGee I like Green personally definitely needs some major development, mainly mentally but has all the tools, may not be available, but most mock drafts have him projected around 17. We can than start him behind Moon until he pans out... I'd love to see us go after an aggressive guard tho, and i love Westbrook's athleticism but he'll be off the board by our pick

05-10-2008, 10:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
Joshz is Pondering if these are BCs last days Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355 Representing:	See i'm not so high on this team. When they shoot well they can beat anybody in the league, but their lack of consistent interior scoring, defense, and rebounding is so apparent. Honestly i attribute it to a lack of athleticism. Other than Bosh (who is undersized forcing him to rely on scoring outside to often) , Bargnani (who plays outside, and is to pussy to mix it up on the boards) Ford (is too small and gets abused against taller guards...Chauncey always dominates TJ) and Moon our team is severely lacking athletically. This is a need that can be addressed in the Draft, i don't see the additions Colangelo making, considering cap restrictions, and a lack of trade able personnel making a huge impact. If you can package the pick for a legitimate scorer/rebounder, im all for it, just see as being unlikely...plus players with potential can be traded later on, at dealine, for more than they are worth (javaris crittenton, and Kwame's contract for Gasol) Last edited by Joshz; 05-10-2008 at 10:54 AM.

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05-07-2008, 06:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kuzzy is pounding the rock! (Edit) Guest Posts: n/a Representing:	the last thing we need to do is wait for a player to develop. this 17th overall pic better not be what we decide to rely on

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Joshz is Pondering if these are BCs last days Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355 Representing:	At the 17th slot who do you suggest is worthwhile and not a project? This team is not one fringe player away from contention, a project...someone who will develop into something within the next 2 years seems to fit the peak of this team as we're waiting on Bargnani. A developing player beats a fringe player on a team needing primary scoring...

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INSIDER is craving boobies never too old. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: richmond hill Posts: 11,173 Representing:	i say we trade this pick... package it with ford or bargs... or both. we dont need another rookie project...

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Dr. J. Naismith is convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when they're unhappy. Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Almonte Posts: 10,251 Representing:	Welcome the RF Josh! I'd say if we aren't trading the pick away then I like a Green or Alexander. I love Alexander because he atheltic, strong and isn't afraid of getting physical. For his size too he'll be a great rebounder too. Green because he's got a ton of potential. Very, very athletic who moves extremely well. Awesome shot blocker and decent on defense. He just needs to beef up a bit because he'd get thrown around at the weight he is now.

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MangoKidHoops is saying too many dudes are Tyson Chandler, trying to lead their teams and went nowhere Scarborough, We Go Hard.. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,916 Representing:	I think Green could be a very good player - especially with his size. The other guys I like are Robin Lopez and if he falls to us - Nic Batum

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MangoKidHoops is saying too many dudes are Tyson Chandler, trying to lead their teams and went nowhere Scarborough, We Go Hard.. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,916 Representing:	Robin is a MUCH better defender and better rebounder. He moves better than Brook. The only thing Brook has over Robin are his offensive moves.

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Major is pounding the rock! Senior Member, Eh? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,606 Representing:	I agree with insider, trade or pick with TJ in a package for someone. We don't need to rebuild right now. We need to win.

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Acie is landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 20,468 Representing:	And Atlanta still didn't have a winning season.

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Ball Don't Lie is praying Drummond doesnt haunt us forever. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,032 Representing:	Who would you guys compare Joe Alexander to? I saw him in the tourny and he was a big athletic white dude with a good hookshot but no jumper.