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Old 02-09-2011, 07:36 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Let's see Insider, who assured their team of a win tonight by grabbing an offensive rebound on their last possession up by 1 point? That would be Bosh.

Who assures their team of losses regularly by giving up extra chances to the opposing team? Yep - that would be Bargnani. Fuck the skills. The dude doesn't play basketball.

He actually played for a solid ten minutes tonight and Matt and Jack had to comment on it. That's not a good thing. Especially when he's given so much praise so readily. In the second quarter he dribbled once and chucked up a fadeaway that never stood a chance, and Matt described it as a strong move by Andrea. I can't fathom how that is in any way bearable to anyone that likes basketball. It doesn't matter how the situation around him is altered, he is a walking talking weakness that is not getting any better as everyone at least hoped, if not expected.

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Old 02-09-2011, 07:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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yeah i can't lie. This season has been all about seeing what we have and moving forward and Bargnani has shown what he's all about. Sadly it ain't pretty. I think Bjjs jokingly put it that he needs to paired with a player that will rebound and defend for him, and honestly that's pretty much true. He just can't be a guy that's heavilly relied upon for pretty much everything when he doesn't have the ball. and shit even then some/lots of his offensive decisions are terrible.

There was about a month stretch where at least his offensive game looked good, but even that has fallen big time now.

That said, depending on who Colangelo can bring in, i think there's a small chance that Bargnani is salvagable, but dissapointingly i don't think it's up to Bargnani. It really is up to another player who will have to play well enough to cover Bargs' weaknesses.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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whats Bosh rebounding this season compared to last year?
18/8 as their 3rd best player.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Lol.... now THAT's funny!

I honestly don't know how ANYONE can sit there and defend Bargs with a straight face anymore.... I just don't.
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if it was only about rebond, at least i will not care any further, but it's all his motivation during game that's bothering me.
no defense, he is passive on D, he just let's all the 4 other people figfhting when he watch them.
he don't put his arm up to defend a jumper... etc...
so yeah why there is still people to denfend him.
we didn't need a guy to be there for the weakness of barg, we need barg out. then we will see a different frontcourt.

i don't know if you really watch him during game or easy opponent bucket :
he lets them pass by him and then he is ike pissed of because nobody come to help him.

that is a huge problkem in this team.

last i was pisse by caldy lake of effort in D. at least this year he try. even if he must go too.

trade barg, jose and evans for a SF and another big and one 1st pick, and i'm sure we will find a way to score.
just ipprove the defense, the scoring abilities is there, so it's not the problem.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:28 AM   #25 (permalink)
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i miss Reggie...but AB misses him much more
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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stop saying that AB need some to pair with him. he just need to pair his mind and his body, not wiat other to work for him.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i miss Reggie...but AB misses him much more
I remember that one game where Bargs hauled down enough rebounds to count with his toes. Reggie boxed out the entire team after every shot went up. Bargnani likes looking at the ball. It gives him pleasure.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:21 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'd just trade everyone for picks. Seriously. And then sign a couple of non-star hard nosed veterans who have been on good team(like we had AD, Oakley, Willis etc.) and do a true rebuild.

Bargnani is bench player on a good team with one single role: spark. He's a 7 foot Eddie House.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:28 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i just think we should blame BC.
seriously, Bargnani has so much skill and so much potential to be great... yet he's surrounded by scrubs. how can one man carry a team? if he had some decent players around him, he would be amazing and the raps would be winning.
its all BC's fault for not surrounding Bargs with talent.
wooooooooooooow, u are not serious....
i don't know how anyone in their right mind can defend this guy

1. Bargnani does not have "so much skill" and "so much potential to be great". he has skills and has the potential to be decent and he ain't even doing that

2. don't fault the team when they on most nights are busting their ass and Bargs is just being a lazy ****

3. you wanna know how one man can carry a team? look at lebron and the cavs last year (nba's best record) but it still wasn't enuff to win it all

4. ever think AB is the problem? and not the other players on the team?
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:50 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I don't know what to think anymore about this guy... he can score, he has improved in assists and steals but he's worse in block shots. Most of the rebounds he takes litterally fall in his hands...he simply not going to rebound. I think that even if he took 7 rebounds per game he wouldn't be less hated. Ok, don't want to get the rebounds? Then defend, defend defend... he doesn't show an ounce of defensive effort, he seems always afraid of somenthing
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Is the point of this thread just another opportunity for many to bitch and moan about Bargnani? Seriously?

Why bother watching if all you're doing is waiting to bitch about it?
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Is the point of this thread just another opportunity for many to bitch and moan about Bargnani? Seriously?

Why bother watching if all you're doing is waiting to bitch about it?
The point is to discuss a supposed cornerstone and key piece of this franchise. People are just commenting on what they see.

People don't have to bitch if they don't want to. If you have something nice to say, then feel free.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Is the point of this thread just another opportunity for many to bitch and moan about Bargnani? Seriously?

Why bother watching if all you're doing is waiting to bitch about it?
He's easy to bitch about. Especially the way he's playing.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Bargs act like he doesn't care. If, at list, he showed a bit of emotions... Like a winner.

Is he frustrated by losing ? We don't know.
Is he a winner ? Seriously, I doubt it.
If you're the man, take the ball and score 45 points
Throw some elbows, get a technical, 2 technicals, a hard foul or just frown lol
I don't know... Do something !!!
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:42 PM   #35 (permalink)
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18/8 as their 3rd best player.
His TRB% has dropped from 17.7 to 13.1.

Triano has to start sitting him if he won't put in the effort. Bargs has shown in the past he is capable of performing well (on both ends, or at least, adequately). Needs a kick in the rear if you ask me.

Smitch ruined him early by benching him too quick, and Triano gave him a little more leash, letting him find his offensive game. That needed to happen. Now it's time to go back to a short leash - you've been in the league 4 years - toughen up and earn your minutes.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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wooooooooooooow, u are not serious....
i don't know how anyone in their right mind can defend this guy

1. Bargnani does not have "so much skill" and "so much potential to be great". he has skills and has the potential to be decent and he ain't even doing that

2. don't fault the team when they on most nights are busting their ass and Bargs is just being a lazy ****

3. you wanna know how one man can carry a team? look at lebron and the cavs last year (nba's best record) but it still wasn't enuff to win it all

4. ever think AB is the problem? and not the other players on the team?
no, i wasnt being serious.
thanks for the woooooooooooow.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:48 PM   #37 (permalink)
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His TRB% has dropped from 17.7 to 13.1.

Triano has to start sitting him if he won't put in the effort. Bargs has shown in the past he is capable of performing well (on both ends, or at least, adequately). Needs a kick in the rear if you ask me.

Smitch ruined him early by benching him too quick, and Triano gave him a little more leash, letting him find his offensive game. That needed to happen. Now it's time to go back to a short leash - you've been in the league 4 years - toughen up and earn your minutes.
Benching him too quick? Fuck that, his first season he played 25mpg and was 2nd in RoY voting. His second season he was awful and againg played roughly 25mpg. Sam absolutely did not ruin him as frustrated as he must have been with his lazy ass.
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well the guy who coached memphis, older coach who does espn games now said this about Bargnani a few years back,

"he couldn't get a rebound if the ball hit him in the face"

i actually like Bargs game but his rebounding numbers are hard to hide behind, especially with K Love hiting 3's now and rebounding so we know its possible to do both

Bargs needs to grow a back bone and get some rebounds, i'm not even talking about 5 more, I'm talking about 2 more a game,
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:51 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Bargs act like he doesn't care. If, at list, he showed a bit of emotions... Like a winner.

Is he frustrated by losing ? We don't know.
Is he a winner ? Seriously, I doubt it.
If you're the man, take the ball and score 45 points
Throw some elbows, get a technical, 2 technicals, a hard foul or just frown lol
I don't know... Do something !!!
Pretty much domes it up for me
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i dont know what to say...
we win, everyone is happy.
we lose, bargs' head is on a platter.

this guy isnt a star, yet everyone criticizes him as if he is one.
bargs is a very good role player, that is all. why is it that everyone has to bash him as if he was an allstar playing un-allstar-like?
the guy is averaging roughly the same amount of rebounds he has averaged his entire career. its funny that people are actually surprised by his rebounding numbers... they have always been crap, what were you expecting this season?
he's upped his scoring, and his rebounds have stayed the same... yet he sucks?
it doesnt make sense.
did anyone really expect him to be an allstar? because its as if that is what he is being compared to.
he is a good role player, period. why are we crucifying him as if he was a star? he never was, and he never will be.
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