08-09 JO, Calderon, Bosh etc..... stats
Old 07-10-2008, 06:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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08-09 JO, Calderon, Bosh etc..... stats

Sam said Claderon will play alot of minutes next season, sooo
i added the 40+ min games stats and got this

Claderon:
PPG:16.53
APG:10.86

JO said he is healthy, last season the healthy month for JO he averged
PPG: 19
RPG: 8

Bosh
PPG: 21
RPG: 10
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If Calderon can average those numbers, I'd love him even more than I do now if that's possible!
I'm wanting JOs numbers up by about 2 ppg/2rpg and seeing Bosh have 23,10.
We don't exactly operate like Boston so I don't expect significant number drops from Bosh.
O'neal may average around 19/8 but I'd like 20/10 :]
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Calderon, first of all

Now I'm not sure about the 11 ast/game there. I mean Nash is just a little more than that no? Jose's great and all but no where near guys like Nash/Kidd

I expect Bosh to get a little more than 21 ppg seeing as he had 22 last season and now with JO to help he should be able to get more numbers.

I like the numbers for JO. They were better than his average all season and if he can do that for at least 70 games this season we will be successful this year.
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i didnt make the stats for claderon, i jus added up his stats of games that he played 40+ and averged it and got those numbers
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Calderon - (35 MPG) 14PPG/9APG
Bush - (38 MPG) 22PPG/10RPG
O'Neal - (35MPG) 19PPG/9RPG/1.8 BPG
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Jeff, if Calderon averaged that in the 25 so minutes he's been playing, I'd expect his stats to go up even more because..10 minutes more would be a significant time boost for him.
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Jeff, if Calderon averaged that in the 25 so minutes he's been playing, I'd expect his stats to go up even more because..10 minutes more would be a significant time boost for him.
When he was starting and playing 34 minutes he was averaging 12.8PPG/9APG
and for the season he averaged 30 MPG,11PPG/8.3APG

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Old 07-10-2008, 08:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I like those stats and the stats that Alvin made up are the ones i think are most possible.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I cant see how JO avgs 18 a game in this system beside Bosh.

I'd say:

Jose 15.5 9.6
Bosh 22 10
Oneal 16 9.6
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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In 1998 when Duncan was drafted David Robinson had averaged 16 and 10 as a centre while Duncan averaged 22 and 11. Both averaged 2.5 blocks each.
Jermaine Robinson and Chris Duncan sounds good.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So I guess it'll be the same for CB4 and JO. Bosh will be Duncan and JO is Robinson.

Those stats kind of match what numbers they may put up too
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So I guess it'll be the same for CB4 and JO. Bosh will be Duncan and JO is Robinson.

Those stats kind of match what numbers they may put up too
They led the Spurs to a championship that year!
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:31 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The reason that teams that have an all star PF,C front line have done well because if they double up one it'll just get dished to the other for an easy two. the following season i see 80 percent of the plays geting played into the big men were they either take there may or draw the double for the easy three.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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In games last season where Jose played over 37 mins he averaged 15.9ppg, 10.6 apg, 3.7 rpg, 1.6 spg and 2.2 tpg, but that being said Jose is going to be a little more cautious to not wear himself out(similar to what happened last year when he logged alot of minutes) so thinking that he could average 14.5/9.5/3/1 is not a stretch. Hopefully he comes into camp with lightning up his arse and redbull in his veins and he can sustain 40 min per a night for the season.

Bosh is going for 25/10/2.5apg/1.5 blocks(nothing to support this just a hunch)
A healthy JO will give 18/12/3.5apg/2.5 blocks
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
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One thing I think you need to look at is stat Distribution. When you add a big tough Rebounder, your other players number typically go down, there are only so many rebounds out there to be had. The same goes with scoring. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bosh's numbers remain even, if not dip, yet his play become more effective.

If this makes sense to you.
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Here's my theory. It's kinda simple:

Who get's the most ppg on the Raps? Bosh, simple

But now that we acquired another scoring threat in JO, Bosh can't get all the points anymore, because JO is going to get some points too. So as SJ said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bosh's numbers decrease this year. It doesn't mean it's a bad thing or anything it just means that JO is here now to support Bosh and get some points as well.
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yep.

det, SA, Bos.

all teams big time guys take stat dips.
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Actually I think Boshes numbers will go up a little. JO will obviously take some baskets away from Chris but I think it will also it will increase Chris's effectiveness. Having JO on the court along with either Kaps or AP and Jose will really make teams question doubling up on Bosh. I think Bosh will be forced, less often to pass out of the post and will put up more shots.
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i am going to go out on a limb and predict that Jose will lead the league in assists next season.
the guy will log 40 mins a night...
the BIG difference between him and Nash is simple, Jose does not make turnovers.
Nash avg's about 3.5 TO's per game, while Jose avg's like 1.5. thats the main difference, jose is so much more careful with the ball.
and this season, he has another big weapon to pass to.
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Jose and Nash are different in that way. Same position and everything but they're style is different. Nash passes a whole lot more, which is part of the reason why he has more turnovers than Jose. Calderon meanwhile, is not the "pass-first" type of PG. H'es alittle more careful with the ball and doesn't turn it over a lot.
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