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Old 05-06-2009, 09:56 AM   #1661 (permalink)
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What the hell are you talking about To.You should stop compering football to american sports since theres absolutely no resemblance. Do you even watch football?
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I'm just confused on why you don't think Man U is the best on the world?
They won the EPL, Champs League last year
won EPL, in the Champs league final, FA cup final and won the club world Cup
Barca's going to win La Liga, that's it, are they in contention for the Kings Cup?
I'm not a Man U fan but I admit that they are the best in the world

I'm confused once more, how can you like Barca and Real?
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:02 AM   #1662 (permalink)
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Im out of this thread for a while. TO and Bmats have ruined it with their ignorance.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:10 AM   #1663 (permalink)
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TO, Bel never said he likes Barca. Hell, as a Real fan it's his duty to hate Barca.

And if you're going to ask, how can person like Real, it's like me asking you why do you like Bayern Munich? Real has a proud football heritage. Really, they've struggled only recently but when they had guys like Roberto Carlos, Zidane and Raul all at their peak they were an unstoppable squad.

Why be a bandwagon fan?
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:09 AM   #1665 (permalink)
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I remember him saying he likes both teams, maybe I'm wrong
and I don't like Bayern, if that's what you're implying
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:43 AM   #1666 (permalink)
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I don't think he was questioning as to why Bel likes Real. He was questioning as to how can he say that he like Barcelona and Real Madrid. Kinda like saying I like the Habs and Leafs or the Yankees and Red Sox. Then again, I have a friend who's a huge Arsenal fan, but loves it when the English teams do good in champions league. And of course, during the NHL playoffs, you'll see fans from all over Canada - who have allegiances to other Canadian teams pull for any remaining Canadian teams.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:01 PM   #1667 (permalink)
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I don't think he was questioning as to why Bel likes Real. He was questioning as to how can he say that he like Barcelona and Real Madrid. Kinda like saying I like the Habs and Leafs or the Yankees and Red Sox. Then again, I have a friend who's a huge Arsenal fan, but loves it when the English teams do good in champions league. And of course, during the NHL playoffs, you'll see fans from all over Canada - who have allegiances to other Canadian teams pull for any remaining Canadian teams.
HA! Personally, i don't want to see any of the Enhlish teams to win the champs league this year. Fuck 'em both!

it's funny that you mention the Canadian teams in the NHL though. I find that I usually cheer for the Canadian teams remaining as well. I think / no, i know/ that i do it becuase i think Canada is seen as a second class citizen of the NHL, despite being the roots of the sport.

As for soccer, i find i HATE most other teams that directly compete against my team of choice. So Fuck off to both Chelsea and ManU.
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As for soccer, i find i HATE most other teams that directly compete against my team of choice. So Fuck off to both Chelsea and ManU.
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HA! Personally, i don't want to see any of the Enhlish teams to win the champs league this year. Fuck 'em both!


As for soccer, i find i HATE most other teams that directly compete against my team of choice. So Fuck off to both Chelsea and ManU.
Man, that's some FIYAH!
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:16 PM   #1670 (permalink)
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I was going to stay out but for some reason this conversation has become about me.

-Im a fan Real Madrid who enjoys watching Barcelona play like every fan of soccer should. Im not a fan of the team, I just respect and envy the way they play and how that organization is built.

-THIS YEAR, they are playing the best football in the world, one of the best in history and most people in the world of soccer agrees with it. Even Hiddink the coach of the team they are playing against admits it.

-Manchester and Barsa are clearly the best teams in the world by far and both deserve to be in the finals.

-Luck is a huge factor in soccer specially in elimination championships and that combined with another factors like simply having a bad day results in that frecuently not the best team wins.

-Saying that Machester, Chelsea, Arsenal, liverpool are better just because of past victories doesnt have any sense. Thats why I ironically said Real is better than any of those teams because they have won more than all of them together. Barcelona won in 2006 the Champions League for those who dont remember.

-ELP is in a better shape than La Liga right now no doubt but thinking that the difference is big enough to think that you can base all your opinions on that is arrogant and ignorant. Three years ago La Liga was arguably the most powerful league , Sevilla and barsa won Uefa/Champions.

-Chelsea can beat Barcelona today. Anything can happend in one game. But Barcelona is the better team and deserves to go to the finals after the ultra defensive way Chelsea played the first game.

-Barcelona has played better than Manchester this year. They average 3 goals a game this year and move the ball how very few teams have before. The difference is not that big but there is a difference.

This are objetive facts, and I cant see how someone thats not a homer can argue this.

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Old 05-06-2009, 12:30 PM   #1671 (permalink)
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:36 PM   #1672 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there Bel. I'm not saying that Manchester United is a better team than Barcelona, or vice versa, or that Barcelona is a better team than Chelsea or vice versa.

I'm not a fan of the theory of "because they score more goals, they're a better team". I don't really buy into that. What about defensive teams? If a team has allowed fewer goals than another, can't you make an argument that they're a better team? Didn't United go through a stretch where they didn't allow a goal in 14 straight games? That's impressive. In any sport, defense wins championships, no matter how ugly it is.

In champions league (except the final), you have 2 legs. If you lose the 2 legs, or you tie one leg and lose the other, you're NOT the better team, and you can't chalk it up to that team having a bad day. If you can't show up for the big games, when the chips are on the table, you aren't the better team.

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But Barcelona is the better team and deserves to go to the finals after the ultra defensive way they played the first game.
If Chelsea wins at Stamford Bridge today, they clearly deserve to go to the finals. No ifs ands or buts. They went into Camp Nou and held them to a scoreless tie. For a team that scores 3 goals a game, to go into another team's house and to hold them to zero goals is quite a feat.

Barcelona might have more talent than the other teams remaining, but talent could mean dick when it comes to the nitty gritty, and it sure as hell doesn't entitle them to get a free pass to the finals.
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It has nothing to do with free pass. They are plainly better. What Chelsea did is coward football, a team cant say they are the one of the best teams in the world and play like that against anyone. Its pretty simple. If you are a small crappy team I understand but Chelsea? Common.

Barcelona has a hell of a defense. They have the best attack, they move the ball like no other team and they have a great defense. I dont really know whats to argue about. Again, its not me saying it. Its everyone in the soccer world.
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You can they they're the best at this and the best at that, but in the end, it's all about winning, and if you don't win, you're not the best. I've never heard anyone say that the Suns from a 4 years ago was the best team because they could score in bunches and had the best talent.

I remember years ago in hockey when the Devils implemented a "neutral zone trap" to win a Stanley Cup over a heavily talent ladened Detroit Red Wings squad. Everyone bad mouthed the trap, but jersey didn't care, they used it to perfection and won.
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I cant believe you guys are compering Barcelona to the Phoenix Suns.

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And all you keep posting are articles about how they can score and how they're a superior team because they score 3 goals a game. The natural comparison for most people - because this is a basketball forum - is the Phoenix Suns. I mean, maybe Barcelona will walk into Stamford Bridge and mash Chelsea out of the tourney. Who knows? We'll know in a few hours though.
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I compared Barca to PHX too, thats why he's mad
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..ANd it begins.. 1-0 Chelsea on a goal by Essien
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:59 PM   #1679 (permalink)
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