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Old 08-20-2009, 08:54 AM   #2241 (permalink)
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well well... pretty interesting Wednesday in England.

shocker with Burnley and Manchester. That goal was really nice and impossible to stop and pretty surprised that Carrick didn't convert the penalty.

Liverpool rebounded after being schooled by Tottenham on the weekend. the Reds looked really good - specifically Glen Johnson who had an amazing goal and just played really well. However, before the game, there was word that Rafa was going to walk out on the club. In the end he didn't, but i have an uneasy feeling about things going forward. Rafa's a bit of a hot head, but the American owners really have to go. I'll be damned if they fuck up this season for me.
I thought Hicks was trying to sell his share
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:22 AM   #2242 (permalink)
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I thought Hicks was trying to sell his share
man i don't even know anymore. I try to just focus on the football side of things now because the rest just frustrates me and you don't even know what to believe anymore.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:25 AM   #2243 (permalink)
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hey jattdog, i went to the sheffield united (my team) versus leicester game yesterday evening. it was a good game and i was very impressed by the leicester style of play, especially that big N'Guessan guy, he did well. it ended 1-1 with oakley scoring a lucky deflected free-kick for you and keith treacy scoring a 25 yard wonder goal for us.

i think leicester will do fine, and hopefully the blades will get promotion!
Hey Blade,

Ya N'Guessan looks like a pretty good pickup for us. I was kind of uncertain how he would handle the Championship but what i saw of him in the first match of the season i was impressed.

It's a long season for sure and i'd be happy with a mid table finish. I think we are good enough for that. Anything higher is a bonus.

Sheff Utd has a pretty good team and would imagine they will challenge for promotion/playoffs this year.


As for the united-burnley match..what a cracker of a goal for burnley! I still dont understand why carrick was taking the penalty kick. Wheres Rooney, owen?
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:18 AM   #2244 (permalink)
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Chelsea played well

Liverpool losses again, quite surprised b/c I thought they were going to finish at least 3rd this season

Burnley is surprising but they'll most likely fizzle out like Hull last season

London clubs doing well
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:32 PM   #2245 (permalink)
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Chelsea played well

Liverpool losses again, quite surprised b/c I thought they were going to finish at least 3rd this season
Burnley is surprising but they'll most likely fizzle out like Hull last season

London clubs doing well
woah woah woah.... we're 3 GAMES IN.

Last year Manchester started off slowly too.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:56 PM   #2246 (permalink)
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United ALWAYS starts off slow. I don't know how some people can go writing off other teams 3 games into the season. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:19 PM   #2247 (permalink)
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woah woah woah.... we're 3 GAMES IN.

Last year Manchester started off slowly too.
just sayin
you don't want to be 6 points down at any point of the season
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woah woah woah.... we're 3 GAMES IN.

Last year Manchester started off slowly too.
Xabi Alonso's absence is gonna be key. Aquilani won't be the same plus he's injury prone and the defense has been terrible so far into the season.

I wrote Liverpool off since I heard of Alonso's departure. He was the glue of that team and Rafa just sold him away.

But the season is still long and anything can happen.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:48 PM   #2249 (permalink)
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Anyone watching the Champions League lottery? English teams got pretty lucky. Well, except Chelsea. barcelona playing Inter. Etoo back to barcelona should be interesting. And the toughest group is probably Reals. Milan, Madrid, Marsella so far.
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Arsenal got REAL lucky, so did Liverpool.
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Interesting Article on the need for a cap

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MONACO — The Associated Press
Last updated on Thursday, Aug. 27, 2009 02:11PM EDT


The mantra has been repeated for more than a year: Something must be done to stop the spiralling spending by European soccer clubs.

It could finally happen Friday, when an influential UEFA panel meets to propose new rules for taming soccer's wild free market.

Calls for action were heard in earnest after Manchester United and Chelsea brought their combined $1.6 billion-plus of debt to the all-English Champions League final in May 2008.

It reached a new level this year as Real Madrid and Manchester City — fierce rivals of Champions League finalists Barcelona and Man United — combined to lavish more than $487-million (all currency U.S.) on new talent.

The world's most expensive player, the $130-million Cristiano Ronaldo, arrived at Madrid along with Kaka, Karim Benzema and others. Emmanuel Adebayor, Carlos Tevez and Roque Santa Cruz top the bill at Man City.

Even Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, who profited by selling Adebayor, called City's tactics “financial doping.”

“The general sentiment is that, yes, we have to get better control of this. We share the philosophy,” Umberto Gandini, a member of the Professional Football Strategy Council and a sporting director at AC Milan, told the Associated Press in a telephone interview.

Salary caps, a luxury tax and maximum squad sizes have all been examined. A popular option is a “soft” salary cap — limiting clubs' spending on transfers and wages to a percentage of soccer-related income, stemming the flow of bank loans and cash from billionaire benefactors.

All would be difficult to fit into a complex framework of national tax regimes and European Union labour and competition laws which bind a majority of UEFA's 53 soccer nations.

Yet a consensus is growing that something must be done, under UEFA president Michel Platini's banner of “financial fair play.”

UEFA fears that without formal controls applied to clubs entering the Champions League, more could follow Leeds and Valencia — opponents in the 2001 semi-finals — to the brink of ruin for recklessly chasing success.

Platini has called high levels of club debt a form of “cheating” and Madrid's spending “excessive,” and will lead Friday's meeting of the strategy council he created to widen debates and drive reform soon after taking office 21/2 years ago.

The 17-man panel also includes four members each from UEFA, the European Club Association (ECA), the European Professional Football Leagues (EPFL) and FIFPro, the international players' union. Four additional powerbrokers have observer status, including FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke and Emanuel Macedo de Medeiros, the chief executive of the EPFL.

“What applies to families or companies must also apply to clubs,” Medeiros told the AP. “You can only spend what you have, otherwise football's long-term interests might be at stake.”

Madrid and Man City were able to spend freely with backing from Spanish banks and the ruling family of Abu Dhabi, respectively.

While some of the money received by selling clubs was circulated in buying players, Medeiros believes the inflationary rise in wages and transfer fees is “a trend which must be tackled.”

Gandini dismissed Platini's many critics in England who believe the former France and Juventus player has an agenda motivated by envy of the Premier League's success.

“The focus was all about English clubs, the Premier League's dominance and the investments by the (Man United-owning) Glazers and (Chelsea owner Roman) Abramovich. Now the focus has moved to Spain,” Gandini said.

Stakeholders in Friday's meeting are cautious about revealing tactics, and plan for last-minute consultation in Monaco, where the Champions League draw is taking place.

Recent comments by Silvio Berlusconi, Italy's prime minister and owner of AC Milan, that a salary cap is imminent were tentatively pushed aside by ECA secretary general Michele Centenaro.

“It is not at the moment the core ambition in what has been worked on in the last month,” Centenaro told the AP. “But it doesn't mean it might not be in the future.”

Platini has asked his strategy council to agree on rules that can be put before the UEFA Executive Committee when it meets Sept. 14-15 in Nyon, Switzerland, and perhaps phased in over several Champions League seasons.

The goodwill exists, though the devilish detail may yet push back the deadline.

“We have to be careful sending out messages that sound like we have the solution,” Gandini said. “I don't think we are there yet.”

Support grows for ‘financial fair play' - The Globe and Mail
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Old 08-27-2009, 05:39 PM   #2252 (permalink)
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aye. something must be done about the spending.

As for the Champions league, there are some interesting draws. As a Liverpool supporter, i feel pretty lucky with the draw. the Chelsea, Atletico Madrid and Porto group will be pretty tough.

Otherwise, the top two should be pretty obvious in each group. Except for group A. I got a feeling Juventus and Bordeaux will advance.... not Munich.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:58 AM   #2253 (permalink)
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why does Chelsea always face Porto at some point of the competition?
the draw is good for me, could have been worse
Barca/Inter/Dynamo/Kazan is a tough group, especially in the winter
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Barca has that group easily and I like Inter coming out of it too.
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Robben went to Munich and Sneijder is on Inter

A: Juventus, Bayern
B: Man United, Wolfsburg
C: Real Madrid, Marseille
D: Chelsea, Atlético Madrid
E: Liverpool, Lyon
F: Barcelona, Inter
G: Stuttgart, Unirea Urziceni
H: Arsenal, Standard Liège
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Tottenham losing Luka Modric to a broken leg is a big, big, loss for them.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:35 AM   #2257 (permalink)
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so... ummm... chelsea, eh?
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:51 AM   #2258 (permalink)
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I just looked it up... I take it you're referring to the transfer ban that was given by FIFA?

Yeah - that's pretty crazy. Can't say im saddened when a rival club gets screwed over.
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It's a fair ruling. Harsh, but deservedly so.
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FIFA banned Chelsea from signing any players for the next year Thursday because it encouraged a French player to break his contract and sign for the club.

The governing body of world soccer said Chelsea can't register any new players, from England or abroad, during the next two transfer windows -- in January 2010 and the next off-season. The next time the team would be able to sign a new player would be in January 2011.

Chelsea said in a brief statement on its website it would "mount the strongest appeal possible," adding that the sanctions "are without precedent to this level and totally disproportionate to the alleged offense and the financial penalty imposed.
FIFA bans Chelsea from signing players for one year

I think the penalty will be reduced to 1 transfer window
People should know that many clubs do this
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