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Old 06-28-2010, 11:09 PM   #581 (permalink)
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The holland game was beyond awful. I was in a dutch bar, not even the crowd was into it.
Ya Maradona didn't look too impressed either. He found other ways to make use of his time

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Old 06-28-2010, 11:41 PM   #582 (permalink)
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trane, the second half goals all came off a counter attack / fast break, if you will. and that was influenced by england sending their players foward as they were playing from behind.

at 2-2, no way england would have left themselves as vulnerable at the back. no way.

Sure they probably would have lost the game.... it's just another case of how bad officiating has 'ruined' a game.
Sorry fancy.... I stilll don't agree.... as much as it pains me to admit it I think that Germany would have won that game regardless.

Watching Klose bully his way to the first goal....

Watching Mueller's clinical finishes....

Watching Ozil blow by the defense...

I suppose that England could have gone into a shell and just played a "prevent" defense for the rest of the game but I didn't have any confidence in seeing them go to penalties either.

Some bad luck for sure.... but England still hasn't figured out how to put their best team on the pitch and have them PERFORM to the best of their abilities.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:11 AM   #583 (permalink)
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I dont get why people say the refs mistakes didnt influence that much the result of the games. Soccer is so sicological(?). England has a better squad player by player than germany, and mexico was playing better than argentina until the goal. Those mistakes completely changed the outcome of the game even if Argentina and Germany ended up playing better than the other teams.

After I saw that they had not call offside to argentina I just couldnt watch another game that was decided by a ref mistake. I can 1 or 2 games with mistakes but it has been like 8 games now with decisive bad calls.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:07 AM   #584 (permalink)
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I dont get why people say the refs mistakes didnt influence that much the result of the games. Soccer is so sicological(?). England has a better squad player by player than germany, and mexico was playing better than argentina until the goal. Those mistakes completely changed the outcome of the game even if Argentina and Germany ended up playing better than the other teams.

After I saw that they had not call offside to argentina I just couldnt watch another game that was decided by a ref mistake. I can 1 or 2 games with mistakes but it has been like 8 games now with decisive bad calls.
yes. It really has become a big joke. I mean SOOOOO many games have been influenced by horrendous officiating and just flat out mistakes.

You gotta think that FIFA have painted themselves into a corner and have no option but to bring in some sort of replay or drastic change to their officiating system. I mean they have to.... right?
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:27 AM   #585 (permalink)
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Blatter 'sorry' for World Cup errors, opens debate
By Pierre Galy (AFP) 3 hours ago

JOHANNESBURG FIFA President Sepp Blatter on Tuesday apologised to England and Mexico over refereeing errors during their World Cup last 16 matches and pledged to review the case for the introduction of goal-line technology.

The Swiss was reacting to two incidents on Sunday when England's Frank Lampard had a goal disallowed even though it was clearly over the line in the clash with Germany which would have made it 2-2. The Germans went on to win 4-1.

Mexico were also left aggrieved when Argentinian striker Carlos Tevez was clearly offside when he scored their first goal and it was made worse when the incident was shown on the big screen.

Referee Roberto Rosetti was unable to disallow the goal as he is forbidden to take into account such evidence. Argentina went on to win 3-1.

"Personally I deplore it when you see evident referee mistakes but it's not the end of a competition or the end of football, this can happen," said Blatter.

"The only thing I can do is yesterday I have spoken to the two federations (England and Mexico) directly concerned by referees mistakes.

"I have expressed to them apologies and I understand they are not happy and that people are criticising.

"I apologised to England and Mexico. The English said 'thank you' and accepted that you can win (some) and you lose (some), and the Mexicans bowed their head and accepted it.

Blatter said that the only technology that would be discussed would be goalline technology which would have made no difference to the Mexican game or indeed to the incident when Thierry Henry's handball set up what proved to be the crucial goal in the France v Ireland World Cup play-off last November.

"The only principle we are going to bring back for discussion is goal-line technology," said Blatter.

"Football is a game that never stops and the moment there was a discussion if the ball was in or out, or there was a goal-scoring opportunity, do we give a possibility to a team to call for replays once or twice like in tennis?

"For situations like the Mexico game you don't need technology.

"Its obvious that that after what we have experienced so far it would be a nonsense not to reopen the technology topic in July (21-22) in Cardiff."

Blatter also said that FIFA in October or November would unveil a new global plan to improve refereeing at competitions under its purview.

"We want to improve the match control," he said.

"How to do it ? After World Cup 1990, we created a task force called football 2000.

"We made some amendments like the back pass to goal keeper. It's not today we have just started. It's an ongoing process. We'll come out in October/November with a new model how to improve high level refereeing.

"I cannot disclose more of what we are doing but something has to be changed."

FIFA have consistently rebuffed all demands to resort to video technology to resolve contentious refereeing decisions despite it being successfully implemented in other sports such as tennis, cricket and rugby union claiming that it would disrupt the free-flowing movement of the game.

But international pressure grew following the Henry handball outcry and Sunday's two glaring incidents have brought the issue back into the full glare of the spotlight.
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What a dinosaur.

FIFA sucks.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:49 AM   #587 (permalink)
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What a dinosaur.

FIFA sucks.
Funny thing is they could bring in offside technology without disrupting the game. I'm sure it would take no more time than a player faking an injury and getting out the stretcher only to get the Aresol spray fix and run back on the pitch.

I'm sure alot of Sepp's pressure have more to do with back door deals going bad if technology gets into the game. I know its all conspiracy theory and all but if you read the book THE FIX you'll see their is some facts involved in this.
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Funny thing is they could bring in offside technology without disrupting the game. I'm sure it would take no more time than a player faking an injury and getting out the stretcher only to get the Aresol spray fix and run back on the pitch.

I'm sure alot of Sepp's pressure have more to do with back door deals going bad if technology gets into the game. I know its all conspiracy theory and all but if you read the book THE FIX you'll see their is some facts involved in this.
I'm not much of a conspiricy theorist when it comes to anything, but i totally don't doubt it in this case. Too many questionable moments and a blatant reluctancy to change points to corruption in some form.
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I'm not much of a conspiricy theorist when it comes to anything, but i totally don't doubt it in this case. Too many questionable moments and a blatant reluctancy to change points to corruption in some form.
and I'm not saying the England/Germany game was fixed but I'd say some 2nd level swiss team are throwing it all for some asian gamblers. It all connects some way and Sepp has alot more at stake than just "the flow" of the game i'm sure.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:56 AM   #590 (permalink)
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alright. I'm staying out of this thread for the rest of the day so as to watch some "live" soccer at 7:30.

Peace!

and Come on Nippon!
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:15 PM   #591 (permalink)
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First time i fell asleep during a World Cup match. Both teams should've been sent home. Alright boys, Spain-Portugal!
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:24 PM   #592 (permalink)
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I dont get why people say the refs mistakes didnt influence that much the result of the games. Soccer is so sicological(?). England has a better squad player by player than germany, and mexico was playing better than argentina until the goal. Those mistakes completely changed the outcome of the game even if Argentina and Germany ended up playing better than the other teams.

After I saw that they had not call offside to argentina I just couldnt watch another game that was decided by a ref mistake. I can 1 or 2 games with mistakes but it has been like 8 games now with decisive bad calls.
I don't know if England has a better squad player by player than Germany. Hell, off the top of my head I'd take Neuer over James and Lahm over any of the English defenders.

Secondly, Germany played more as a team while England, they looked disjointed and never trusted one another.

I re-watched that game yesterday (thank PVR) and while evening the game at 2-2 would've been big, only one player for England showed up to play and it was Lampard. Barry, Terry, Gerrard all looked old out there. I know Germany scored on the counter attack but Germany has always been known to score on the counter, it's their style of football. If it wasn't with the men pressing for England I'm 100% positive Germany would've still scored another goal somewhere down the line.

The way you beat the Germans historically, is by taking the game TO them instead of letting them do something. England like teams to engage their defence and then like to play long and use their size up front to muscle their way to the goal. Can't do that against the Germans.

I just look at it this way, England never looked good in this tournament and it showed when they played a half decent opponent.
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poor japan....gotta feel bad for the guy that misses...well a heart breaker
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I don't know if England has a better squad player by player than Germany. Hell, off the top of my head I'd take Neuer over James and Lahm over any of the English defenders.

Secondly, Germany played more as a team while England, they looked disjointed and never trusted one another.

I re-watched that game yesterday (thank PVR) and while evening the game at 2-2 would've been big, only one player for England showed up to play and it was Lampard. Barry, Terry, Gerrard all looked old out there. I know Germany scored on the counter attack but Germany has always been known to score on the counter, it's their style of football. If it wasn't with the men pressing for England I'm 100% positive Germany would've still scored another goal somewhere down the line.

The way you beat the Germans historically, is by taking the game TO them instead of letting them do something. England like teams to engage their defence and then like to play long and use their size up front to muscle their way to the goal. Can't do that against the Germans.

I just look at it this way, England never looked good in this tournament and it showed when they played a half decent opponent.
Exactamundo.

The Germans are damn good and they played a great team game. Very smart, quick and clinical.

They deserved the win.

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Old 06-29-2010, 05:32 PM   #595 (permalink)
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Did that Spanish kid take a dive???

I didn't get to see it clearly but it looked like he didn't get touched at all.
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^^^^

Sure looked like a dive. Other then that good game. Spain vs. Paraguay in the next round. GO SPAIN GO
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Exactamundo.

The Germans are damn good and they played a great team game. Very smart, quick and clinical.

They deserved the win.

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Yeah. I get that a lot.
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Fuck off Portugal.



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Fuck off Portugal.



Yes. Also, Christiano Ronaldo is a ball-hog. He wants to do everything by himself. Every free kick, each time his team has the ball. He just keep t on shooting away even from far range xD. He needs to learn the Portugal doesn't revolve around him
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Yes. Also, Christiano Ronaldo is a ball-hog. He wants to do everything by himself. Every free kick, each time his team has the ball. He just keep t on shooting away even from far range xD. He needs to learn the Portugal doesn't revolve around him
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