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Toronto Raptors reaching the NBA E.C. Finals 0 0%
Toronto Blue Jays reaching the playoffs 1 8.33%
Toronto Maple Leafs making the playoffs and winning the President's Trophy 11 91.67%
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:44 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Take a look @ the ratings for the Blue Jays. They were impressive.

Also, this news of basketball not being in Toronto for another 10 years is news to me....basketball seems to be pretty popular amongst the 13-20 y.o. demographic.

Take a look @ merchandise sales and even video game sales for nba 2k11.
ratings were good but actual attendance in TO is pretty bad right now....don't have a link for actual numbers but i'll guess under or around 19,000 ?
the problem with baseball right now (particularly in this division) is there is very little hope of competing...i mean ask yourself honestly...with all the signings this off-season, who do you think is going to win the World Series ?...i'd say it's already all said and done...Philly

not disputing the demographics for basketball...just relaying what i consistently hear from different people on the radio
wish i had some names Claudius, but i don't ...but i can tell you it's usually people who are involved in the business side of sports who make this prediction
will it happen ?..i hope not
but i think it's also pretty obvious that the Raptors need to start winning soon in order to broaden their fanbase
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that i can agree on along with the fact basketball is popular in the 13-20 yo. demographic when i went to best buy they had a ton of copies of nba 2k11 and i went in december before christmas. i remember a couple years ago best buy and futureshop didnt even have nba 2k8 so i had to get it online
ok...but let me ask you a question...other than Real Sports at the ACC, where can you buy a Raptors jersey in Toronto ??
answer...next to nowhere...and that's just sad imho
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ratings were good but actual attendance in TO is pretty bad right now....don't have a link for actual numbers but i'll guess under or around 19,000 ?
the problem with baseball right now (particularly in this division) is there is very little hope of competing...i mean ask yourself honestly...with all the signings this off-season, who do you think is going to win the World Series ?...i'd say it's already all said and done...Philly
Yes, the attendance was bad, but that was done on purpose. When a team announces it will rebuild and not compete for the division and really not market them, it's to be expected.

Again, I point to the ratings to show that people still watch the team and still pay attention to them but instead of paying x amount of dollars decided to watch them instead.

Out of any team in this city, I'd argue they have the most buzz about them, especially considering that in 2011 or 2012 there's already talk of adding another wild card team which would be huge as I think the Jays could actually grab it.

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not disputing the demographics for basketball...just relaying what i consistently hear from different people on the radio
wish i had some names Claudius, but i don't ...but i can tell you it's usually people who are involved in the business side of sports who make this prediction
will it happen ?..i hope not
but i think it's also pretty obvious that the Raptors need to start winning soon in order to broaden their fanbase
Radio callers are usually morons for the most part. I've heard ridiculous claims on there. I don't think anyone with a moderate view ever gets in because it doesn't equate good listening.

I think the demographics are key. I know when I talk to older people (50+) I HAVE to talk hockey. Always. It's a good common ground.

I have found though, when I'm talking to anyone younger than 35, their interests are pretty split, I'd argue 50/50 between the two. If I talk to anyone below 20 I find that the number is much larger in favor of basketball.

I bring this up because while an older generation still admires that game, I don't think it's AS dominant as it was in the GTA area. Not Canada, but the GTA area. There's no '1 sport fan' as there used to be.
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ok...but let me ask you a question...other than Real Sports at the ACC, where can you buy a Raptors jersey in Toronto ??
answer...next to nowhere...and that's just sad imho
i go to university at ryerson and around there there are a couple stores that sell basketball jerseys in terms of raptor jerseys it does not nearly have as big a variety of jerseys as real sports but still have a couple raptor players.
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ok...but let me ask you a question...other than Real Sports at the ACC, where can you buy a Raptors jersey in Toronto ??
answer...next to nowhere...and that's just sad imho
Really?

I find them everywhere. Footlocker, Champs, Sports Obsession, Sportcheck...really any sports store that sells apparel.
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i go to university at ryerson and around there there are a couple stores that sell basketball jerseys in terms of raptor jerseys it does not nearly have as big a variety of jerseys as real sports but still have a couple raptor players.
your at ryerson as well?
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your at ryerson as well?
yep 1st year business
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Jays are the summer team and the second most popular. people just dont go to game cause of a 17 year playoff drought. but they do have good TV numbers


but Leafs being the best team in hockey for the regular season would defiantly be the numero uno story
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Really?

I find them everywhere. Footlocker, Champs, Sports Obsession, Sportcheck...really any sports store that sells apparel.
i remember being in downtown about a year ago and there was virtually nothing anywhere...i have to say i was shocked at the lack of choice..there was the occasional Bosh jersey tucked away in a corner
maybe it's changed since then...for the sake of this franchise, i certainly hope so
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Yes, the attendance was bad, but that was done on purpose. When a team announces it will rebuild and not compete for the division and really not market them, it's to be expected.

Again, I point to the ratings to show that people still watch the team and still pay attention to them but instead of paying x amount of dollars decided to watch them instead.

Out of any team in this city, I'd argue they have the most buzz about them, especially considering that in 2011 or 2012 there's already talk of adding another wild card team which would be huge as I think the Jays could actually grab it.



Radio callers are usually morons for the most part. I've heard ridiculous claims on there. I don't think anyone with a moderate view ever gets in because it doesn't equate good listening.

I think the demographics are key. I know when I talk to older people (50+) I HAVE to talk hockey. Always. It's a good common ground.

I have found though, when I'm talking to anyone younger than 35, their interests are pretty split, I'd argue 50/50 between the two. If I talk to anyone below 20 I find that the number is much larger in favor of basketball.

I bring this up because while an older generation still admires that game, I don't think it's AS dominant as it was in the GTA area. Not Canada, but the GTA area. There's no '1 sport fan' as there used to be.
smart move on the part of the Jays organization to come right out and say they are not competing for a title...not
imho the league needs to change a lot more than just another wild card in order to restore faith in a dwindling fanbase...there are major problems with the structure of the league itself...too many to mention here
but worst of all is you have Bud (i don't have a fucking clue) Selig running the show :facepalm:

just for the record...i wasn't talking about "listeners" who call in...i was referring to interview guests (not all, but quite a few)

the biggest problem i find with basketball right now in this country is the fact that there is virtually no infrastructure to help the game grow...yes there are high school teams but imho that covers a VERY small portion of the youth in this country
where are the Park leagues, Church leagues, Rep leagues etc etc etc...without these basic organized leagues i'm afraid the sport will remain stagnant in this country
and that's a huge shame, because i'm sure there are 10s of 1000's of kids who would love to play, but have nowhere to go to do so
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smart move on the part of the Jays organization to come right out and say they are not competing for a title...not
imho the league needs to change a lot more than just another wild card in order to restore faith in a dwindling fanbase...there are major problems with the structure of the league itself...too many to mention here
but worst of all is you have Bud (i don't have a fucking clue) Selig running the show :facepalm:

just for the record...i wasn't talking about "listeners" who call in...i was referring to interview guests (not all, but quite a few)

the biggest problem i find with basketball right now in this country is the fact that there is virtually no infrastructure to help the game grow...yes there are high school teams but imho that covers a VERY small portion of the youth in this country
where are the Park leagues, Church leagues, Rep leagues etc etc etc...without these basic organized leagues i'm afraid the sport will remain stagnant in this country
and that's a huge shame, because i'm sure there are 10s of 1000's of kids who would love to play, but have nowhere to go to do so
I don't think you're looking hard enough.

In Hamilton, I know of at least 7 organizations that run minor basketball and development.

Add into that, all the high school, elementary, college and university teams, plus the house leagues that most organizations run etc.

There's ALOT of places to play basketball and usually fill up.

I know when I volunteered with Burlington Basketball about 3 years ago, we were anticipating about 200 kids, we ended up with over a 1000 for the Fall registration with higher numbers in the winter and summer. Insane considering it was around the same time hockey was registering.
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I can't believe some of you guys are saying it's hard to find Raptors gear downtown. That's just crazy talk. There's tons of Raptors gear all along yonge street. tons.

As for the initial question, i gotta say it would actually be more even than what most are guessing. Pretty sure given those options the last place would be TFC. I am a soccer guy and i even call myself a tfc fan, but that team and league are pretty small time. Pretty much on par with the CFL.... maybe even lower down the chain.
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FC winning the MLS cup would be pretty big for this city. Obviously the Leafs winning the best record in the East would be the biggest news, but soccer is also pretty big in T Dot.
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FC winning the MLS cup would be pretty big for this city. Obviously the Leafs winning the best record in the East would be the biggest news, but soccer is also pretty big in T Dot.
whats soccer i never heard of it?
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