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Old 02-01-2009, 09:49 AM   #81 (permalink)
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yay GSP.

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Tom Atentio: Rumors are false; Affliction MMA here to stay

“The rumors are just that, rumors, they’re not true, there’s no truth to it…. I have Donald Trump behind me, I have Golden Boy Promotions behind me, I have M-1, where are we going? People love to build you up, but they love to watch you fall even more and hopefully I’m not that guy. I’ve always maintained that I’ve taken the high road, I don’t talk shit about people. I have a lot going on right now with Trump, Golden Boy and M-1 and things are moving forward…. Right now, I’m learning a lot about this business. I’ve been honest from day one and right now, I’m going to sit down with Golden Boy, M-1 and Mr. Trump and we’re going to figure out how we’re going forward. We’re going to do events every three or four months. The bottom line is, this is only our second event, let me learn, let me do what I’m doing, but I must be doing something right because someone is starting these rumors.”

Too bad. Lesner needs to get pwnd by Fedor to bring him back to earth.
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:38 AM   #83 (permalink)
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I agree with Gizzle as far as Penn being very very competitive as high up as the MW division. He can easily be a top 3 welterweight. He's far and away the best LW. And he can be a maybe top 5 MW.

There is nothing that tells me that Cote or Leites can beat him (the last two MW title contenders) A Silva fight would be surprisingly competitive. BJ has a very very solid chin ... good head movement, great hands and amazing jiu jitsu. Not to mention his agility and flexibitity is unlike any other fighter in history.

I personally dont like him .... but his skills cant be questioned.

Now moving to the LHW and HW division is a bit of a stretch. MOST guys at LHW are basically heavyweights who cut at least 15-20pounds and fight at LHW. The reach, size and strength advatnage will be just too much to handle on most nights. I just dont see BJ doing ANYTHING to Rampage. He wont knock him out .... he wont take him down.

Heel hooks, knee bars, or foot locks would be the only way to go. HW is just a whole different beast.
You know, I posted before this fight that Penn was scared. Everything he did and said showed it, psychology is an interesting subject, but you didn't need much to know he was worried.

Your post here absolutely ignores GSP, and jumps right to Rampage and Silva, and even slags Cote saying he couldn't beat Penn. I am really surprised.

I watched a lot of Penn, I know he's a good fighter, but honestly, he fought GSP when he was an inexperienced whelp. And lost. Years later, GSP has turned himself into a machine, and you still discounted he skill. Penn stood in that Ring, before th efigt, and you copuld se fear in his eyes, he was nervous, and he was unsure. During the fight, his expression was immediately identical to Hughes in the last GSP Hughes fight, dispair. Not only could you see how confused he was, you could see that he knew he had no chance.

I think it's easy to get caught up in the hype, the big talk, and all of that, but Penn realistically hasn't really shown he could destroy the big boys, and most of his big victories were against smaller guys. Whereas GSP has beaten everyone, and his losses, were as a result of distinct mistakes you can point at.

Personally, I was 100% that he was gonna win, no doubt. And if Cote got Penn, it would be the same result, hands down. Penn can dominate hi sdicision... and even that is in question now, but he can't come up and dominate the bigger guys, he isn't big enough, an dhe isn't dedicated enough, and to be honest, for all his talk, he isn't bad enough.

GSP said it best after the fight, and he made his CDN fans proud when he said;

" I'm not one for trash talk, I'm not one to trash talk my opponent, I like to do my talking in the ring, and thats what I did". The kid is a professional. He has raised th bar in the UFC, and along with Silva, he is raising the image of the sport.

There's your real fight of the century, Silva and GSP. And that one.... I have no idea, but I am gonna do what ya do, and thats lean towards your guy. Silva is so precise, and so fast. Gsp is talented, and powerful, and extremely prepared fopr his fights now, prepared for what he is facing. What a match that would be. And neither guy would be talking shit in the media, all business, the way it should be.
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:44 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Fedor would destroy Penn, whoever says otherwise is a fool. But whoever said Penn is scared of GSP is a bigger fool.
Ya that was me.

It was nothing personal, obviously I don't know Baby jay. I just know sports psychology as I have had to study it in the past. Penn exhibited almost all of the behavioral signs of an athlete that is unsure of himself.

Did you see his eyes in the ring just before they started, after the touched gloves. Fear.

He was right to be afraid, he was in the ring with a fighter that he only compared toin natural talent. He was incomparable in size, fitness, mental prep, and pre-fight fight strategy.

These guys know whats up, and Penn knew he wasn't prepared the whole time, and that one moment in the figt, just before they began, I think the full weight of it really kicked in. I was absolutely thrilled.
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:46 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Penn is scared?

LOL

Sj, who the fuck do you think you're talking about. BJ Penn is a top 3 fighter in the world today. He's probably the guy with the best chance to beat Fedor. I hope Penn fucking handles GSP, I don't even like George that much anymore...

Although he does train with Jackson Submissions, he actually does the majority of his training at the Tristar gym in Montreal...I'm actually going to be stopping by there at the end of February for the XMMA show and I'll have a chance to go in and meet Faraz Sahabi [head trainer]...Hopefully GSP will be there so I can laugh at him for losing to BJ Penn...He should be cornering Mike Ricci in his fight at the show.

Anyways, it should be an exciting card, although I don't think Machida vs Silva is a PPV headliner, but it will be a great fight. Unforunately Machida doesn't really draw [at least yet] so I can see the hesitation with giving him a title shot. Guy is scary though.
Cortez, I'm gonna go easy on you on this one, you're young, and full of spirit.



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you know whats funny, Penn kept calling GSP a quiter during the UFC primetime show and hes the one who gave up . Maybe Penn needs to spend less time running his mouth and more time training.

GSP vs. Silva @ Skydome
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:03 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Did he quit?

I have yet to see it, i thought his corner stopped it, Iwa sactually telling Cuda I respected him for not quitting.

If he quit.... Oh Man. Perfect.

Raptorman, what is the quote you posted, is that the other MMA franchise?
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:04 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Jesus those are funny, there are a few more no?
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Did he quit?

I have yet to see it, i thought his corner stopped it, Iwa sactually telling Cuda I respected him for not quitting.

If he quit.... Oh Man. Perfect.

Raptorman, what is the quote you posted, is that the other MMA franchise?
You see his brother talking to him then he taped the medic on the shoulder. Maybe BJ was too beat up and he didn't want his bro to risk his career going back into the ring.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:09 AM   #91 (permalink)
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wow.

well good, looks good on him. I think he was hurt badly though, no interviews from him yet. Straight to the ER.

He'll be back though, but most likely where he belongs, in his own weight class.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:10 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Did he quit?

I have yet to see it, i thought his corner stopped it, Iwa sactually telling Cuda I respected him for not quitting.

If he quit.... Oh Man. Perfect.

Raptorman, what is the quote you posted, is that the other MMA franchise?
Yes. BJ quit... his corner wouldn't let him continue and he didn't answer the bell to start the last round.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:47 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Did he quit?

I have yet to see it, i thought his corner stopped it, Iwa sactually telling Cuda I respected him for not quitting.

If he quit.... Oh Man. Perfect.

Raptorman, what is the quote you posted, is that the other MMA franchise?
Ya man. Affliction. I meant to post the link.

BTW. Affliction production is BRUTAL. It looks thrown together. The fighters look out of shape. And Tito as a commentator is a joke. They are throwing good money after bad.

Positive is that the fighters are making great coin from Affliction. GSP and the others have to start making $1mill a fight soon. Right now the whole card is getting paid under a million. Terrible.
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Ya that was me.

It was nothing personal, obviously I don't know Baby jay. I just know sports psychology as I have had to study it in the past. Penn exhibited almost all of the behavioral signs of an athlete that is unsure of himself.

Did you see his eyes in the ring just before they started, after the touched gloves. Fear.

He was right to be afraid, he was in the ring with a fighter that he only compared toin natural talent. He was incomparable in size, fitness, mental prep, and pre-fight fight strategy.

These guys know whats up, and Penn knew he wasn't prepared the whole time, and that one moment in the figt, just before they began, I think the full weight of it really kicked in. I was absolutely thrilled.
He didn't look scared before the fight, he looked ready. I think hiis over-confidence lost him this fight rather than being scared.
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Old 02-01-2009, 12:34 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Ya man. Affliction. I meant to post the link.

BTW. Affliction production is BRUTAL. It looks thrown together. The fighters look out of shape. And Tito as a commentator is a joke. They are throwing good money after bad.

Positive is that the fighters are making great coin from Affliction. GSP and the others have to start making $1mill a fight soon. Right now the whole card is getting paid under a million. Terrible.
Highest paid fighter in the UFC is Lidell, i think, at $500 k and Lesnar gets $350 k. Good fighters usually make $200+ k, they get bonuses and sponsorship money too.
Afliction overpays fighters, they payed Arlovski $1.3 mil to fight Fedor. UFC as a brand is much stonger, they have a PPV every month and make $3+ mil at the gate. Affliction has had a couple PPV's in Anaheim.
Trump will fail in Affliction just like he failed in creating a wrestling league to compete with the WWE and his Atlantic City casinos.
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Cortez, I'm gonna go easy on you on this one, you're young, and full of spirit.



HA!

I'm gonna DL the torren tof the fights, yo uand Sauce should grab Rasam and come down and watch it over again with me. You down?
Dude! I thought you didn't watch this stuff! If I'd have known I would have invited you to join Sauce & I at "Hoops".

BJ Penn reminds me SOOOO much of Tito Ortiz at this point. Both talked an obscene amount of shit and both were put in their place when they faced REAL fighters that were in their prime. Both are bullies who just got their rocks off beating up guys who were physically weaker and mentally beaten before the fight.

GSP/Anderson Silva would be fucking awesome. I think that Anderson's reach would be too much though.
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Jon Jones is going to be a great fighter in the UFC in years to come. His takedowns are so effective and explosive which makes him very exciting to watch. His spinning elbow on Bonnar yesterday was fuckin' ridiculous.
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You know, I posted before this fight that Penn was scared. Everything he did and said showed it, psychology is an interesting subject, but you didn't need much to know he was worried.

Your post here absolutely ignores GSP, and jumps right to Rampage and Silva, and even slags Cote saying he couldn't beat Penn. I am really surprised.

I watched a lot of Penn, I know he's a good fighter, but honestly, he fought GSP when he was an inexperienced whelp. And lost. Years later, GSP has turned himself into a machine, and you still discounted he skill. Penn stood in that Ring, before th efigt, and you copuld se fear in his eyes, he was nervous, and he was unsure. During the fight, his expression was immediately identical to Hughes in the last GSP Hughes fight, dispair. Not only could you see how confused he was, you could see that he knew he had no chance.

I think it's easy to get caught up in the hype, the big talk, and all of that, but Penn realistically hasn't really shown he could destroy the big boys, and most of his big victories were against smaller guys. Whereas GSP has beaten everyone, and his losses, were as a result of distinct mistakes you can point at.

Personally, I was 100% that he was gonna win, no doubt. And if Cote got Penn, it would be the same result, hands down. Penn can dominate hi sdicision... and even that is in question now, but he can't come up and dominate the bigger guys, he isn't big enough, an dhe isn't dedicated enough, and to be honest, for all his talk, he isn't bad enough.

GSP said it best after the fight, and he made his CDN fans proud when he said;

" I'm not one for trash talk, I'm not one to trash talk my opponent, I like to do my talking in the ring, and thats what I did". The kid is a professional. He has raised th bar in the UFC, and along with Silva, he is raising the image of the sport.

There's your real fight of the century, Silva and GSP. And that one.... I have no idea, but I am gonna do what ya do, and thats lean towards your guy. Silva is so precise, and so fast. Gsp is talented, and powerful, and extremely prepared fopr his fights now, prepared for what he is facing. What a match that would be. And neither guy would be talking shit in the media, all business, the way it should be.
Oh I picked GSP to win the fight against Penn .... I was just trying to give Gizzle a little backup in his very weak argument. All I was saying is that Penn can be competitive as far up as the MW division. Saying he can beat Fedor is ******ed lol.
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Cortez, I'm gonna go easy on you on this one, you're young, and full of spirit.



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I'm gonna DL the torren tof the fights, yo uand Sauce should grab Rasam and come down and watch it over again with me. You down?
Definitely.

I can concede defeat.

I thought Penn was going to bring it. He didn't. GSP cemented himself as the man, while Penn cemented himself as a trash talking mope. I'm very disappointed but, it was worth the good night of fights...
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