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Old 11-21-2008, 12:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Didn't Fedor lose an exhibition bout over the weekend....
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Fedor Emelianenko sensationally lost in the semifinal of the World Combat Sambo Championship in St. Petersburg

The best fighter in the world of mixed Arts, four time world champion in combat sambo Russian Fedor Emelianenko sensationally lost today, 16 November to Bulgarians Blagoi Ivanov (5:8) in the semi-finals of the the over 100 kg World Cup in combat sambo, which takes place in St. Petersburg Sport arena ŤAnniversaryť - and will now compete for the bronze medal.

Im guessing theres a good excuse for this.... Fedor fans are like Rickson Grace... 400-0 baby!!!
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That's the first Sambo match he's lost in 8 years, mind you.

Fedor isn't even my favorite fighter, not by a long shot...but man Ugo I really don't think you know anything about MMA.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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That's the first Sambo match he's lost in 8 years, mind you.

Fedor isn't even my favorite fighter, not by a long shot...but man Ugo I really don't think you know anything about MMA.
I dunno about that but what I do know is Brock still hasn't earned his stripes. Yes he does hold a UFC belt (which Nogs does as well) but this guy only fought in 4 flippin MMA fights. Fedor is a Pride Legend and its not being a "Fedor Fan" but its giving respect where respect is due.

Its true Fedor hasn't fought very competent MMA fighters for a while but I'm just going by what the topic says and 'THE TRUTH ABOUT FEDOR' is that he is problably the best Heavyweight MMA has ever seen. Their is a reason why Randy was pushing for a Randy / Fedor fight. Randy loves glory and he wanted to face the best of the best.

Guys like Lesnar has to start beating some competition. Beating Nogs next would be a start (or Mir twice if he so miraculously beats Nog) and Brock should be ever so thankful that the Heavyweight division in UFC is quite weak after that.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I dunno about that but what I do know is Brock still hasn't earned his stripes. Yes he does hold a UFC belt (which Nogs does as well) but this guy only fought in 4 flippin MMA fights. Fedor is a Pride Legend and its not being a "Fedor Fan" but its giving respect where respect is due.

Its true Fedor hasn't fought very competent MMA fighters for a while but I'm just going by what the topic says and 'THE TRUTH ABOUT FEDOR' is that he is problably the best Heavyweight MMA has ever seen. Their is a reason why Randy was pushing for a Randy / Fedor fight. Randy loves glory and he wanted to face the best of the best.

Guys like Lesnar has to start beating some competition. Beating Nogs next would be a start (or Mir twice if he so miraculously beats Nog) and Brock should be ever so thankful that the Heavyweight division in UFC is quite weak after that.
Like who?....

Brock will be champ for a long long long long time. You are selling him short.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Like who?....

Brock will be champ for a long long long long time. You are selling him short.
Based on what exactly?

3 fights? lol.

Brock has NO skill. He's ALL power and speed. And in MMA that only carries you so far.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:42 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Fedor Emelianenko sensationally lost in the semifinal of the World Combat Sambo Championship in St. Petersburg

The best fighter in the world of mixed Arts, four time world champion in combat sambo Russian Fedor Emelianenko sensationally lost today, 16 November to Bulgarians Blagoi Ivanov (5:8) in the semi-finals of the the over 100 kg World Cup in combat sambo, which takes place in St. Petersburg Sport arena ŤAnniversaryť - and will now compete for the bronze medal.

Im guessing theres a good excuse for this.... Fedor fans are like Rickson Grace... 400-0 baby!!!
Now Rickson Gracie? I agree with you there.... he fought nothing but cans for most of his career. Royce was tested 100 X more than he was.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Like who?....

Brock will be champ for a long long long long time. You are selling him short.
I'm not selling himself short. Just like TORaptor said he only fought in 3 fights (actually 4 but the first one was a complete nobody).

As of now Brock doesn't deserve any stripes yet he has to earn them. Personally I just flat out don't like the guy. He is a big no skill chump that gets by with his quickness and shear power.

When I watch fights I like to see the mind working. Guys like Randy/Henderson/GSP/Penn do that for me. A guy like Brock not yet so as of now I won't give him much respect
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Based on what exactly?

3 fights? lol.

Brock has NO skill. He's ALL power and speed. And in MMA that only carries you so far.
I don't know where you get the impression that other than his near untouchable power and athleticism, he has nothing.

This guys a borderline Olympic caliber wrestler. We haven't even begun to see it because he's not really versed in submission grappling, still as long as he trains with good people and really trains against BJJ he's gonna be very scary. This isn't another Bob Sapp gentleman, I don't care what anyone says he deserves the belt right now [Nog's interim belt doesn't mean shit], he beat the natural albeit at the age of 45, a very large amount of people thought Couture would take the fight.

I think he'll beat whoever he faces next, whether its Nog or Mir. I really think either of those fight can go down similarly to the Couture fight. He's just gonna knock someone down pounce and rain down shots. Couture couldn't even get up for a couple of minutes after Lesnar destroyed him...That stoppage should have happened much quicker.

Keep in mind, Big Nog has only faced Sylvia and Herring so far in the UFC, neither of those mopes come close to Brock. Matter of fact he hasn't faced someone this imposing since Fedor in 2004.
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Might be the only part I disagree with you on.

Brocks best chance of beating Nog is to box with him and hope it never goes to the ground. Nog has submitted pretty much every wrestler he ever faced with the exception of Barnett, but that guy is an 11year veteran. Brock is still novice at JJ.

Nog has submitted Herring, Coleman, Sapp, Dan Henderson, CroCop (nobody ever submitted him before or after), Shilt ...who is enormous. You saw how quickly he finished Silvia when it went to the ground after Silvia was pounding him in the standup for 3 rounds.

So yeah ... brock might win if he starts throwing those big bombs in the stand up. But he wont win on the ground. Nog has been powerbombed, piledriven, brutally GnPed by everyone. The man has never been finished. Brock wont survive 5 rounds in there with that beartrap.
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Yep. That's it. Brock has a puncher's chance. That's it.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:40 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Brock needs to face some competition?? lol In only 3 UFC fights he has fought tougher guys then Fedor has in the last 3 years... He got right in and faced a former champ, then one of the all time toughest in herring, then a living legend in Randy, what more can he do? Next he prob faces Nog, you can knock Brock for w/e you want, but he jumped right into the fire and deserves respect for doing so, he could have asked for a few cans so he could ease his way up, but he wanted the best right away. I know for a fact Brock would fight Fedor next if you lined it up, he would prob lose, but he woudlnt avoid it.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Brock needs some trainning in BJJ. If he got 2-3 years of BJJ trainning under his belt he would be almost unstoppable.
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