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Old 02-28-2012, 06:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Clean slate with a team nobody wanted to be on. lol
ya thats the whole picture lol. Still say AA had the hardest job though
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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ya thats the whole picture lol. Still say AA had the hardest job though
Besides, a clean slate and turned them into a 47 win team. For me it's between AA and BC, not that any of them have it easy to say the least. In getting players to actually come here, imo BC has it harder. AA can probably get players here but they won't spend.
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Besides, a clean slate and turned them into a 47 win team. For me it's between AA and BC, not that any of them have it easy to say the least. In getting players to actually come here, imo BC has it harder. AA can probably get players here but they won't spend.
BC has it the hardest. Lots of ignorant ballers out there. Don't even want to teach their kids the metric system
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.................... BC will always have the stigma due to uneducated ballers thinking Toronto is a wasteland ..........................

Really ? As an outsider, I've got to say that Toronto is a wonderful city, and Canada one of the most beautiful countries in the world.
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Really ? As an outsider, I've got to say that Toronto is a wonderful city, and Canada one of the most beautiful countries in the world.
basketball players would disagree with you.
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basketball players would disagree with you.
it smells "different"
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it smells "different"
Yep ....... it smells clean and fresh ........ unlike many of the American cities I've visited.
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Really ? As an outsider, I've got to say that Toronto is a wonderful city, and Canada one of the most beautiful countries in the world.
coming from England most countries look good...
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basketball players would disagree with you.
Bullshit. Most Basketball players love the city. They just don't want to play here. There is a difference. If this team turns things around maybe that can change to some degree, but we would have to start winning.
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my point was more tongue in cheek than anything, but thanks for the breakdown Jeff. Toronto has never been a big destination in the NBA. Basketball players may say things like how they love the city, but until they actually want to start living here and back up the lip service my prior statement will stand and hold more truth than your rebuttal.
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my point was more tongue in cheek than anything, but thanks for the breakdown Jeff. Toronto has never been a big destination in the NBA. Basketball players may say things like how they love the city, but until they actually want to start living here and back up the lip service my prior statement will stand and hold more truth than your rebuttal.
That's your opinion. All I'm saying is that many players come here in the summer, including for Carabana and really like the city. But when it comes to coming here to play part of it is ignorance and misinformation and some of it is the lack of winning. I would also say that every team is this city has trouble signing big name FA players for various reasons and it's not just basketball players.

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AA has it the hardest by far due to playing in a division with 2 great teams in NYY and BOS. Also T-Bay isn't that bad either. This equates to little chance of making the playoffs. MLB playoff format is brutal, especially for the Jays. With the 5th playoff spot there is a ray of hope though.

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BC - hard to analyze. At least BB and AA have organizations with some history, BC doesn't have that going for him. However, in BC's tenure he has brought a banner for the raps, which is good. He has also done some stupid things though - especially trading for JO, leading to Marion, leading to Hedo, thankfully he had an ace up his sleeve and got rid of Hedo getting LB. This summer will decide BC's fate.
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That's your opinion. All I'm saying is that many players come here in the summer, including for Carabana and really like the city. But when it comes to coming here to play part of it is ignorance and misinformation and some of it is the lack of winning. I would also say that every team is this city has trouble signing big name FA players for various reasons and it's not just basketball players.
Carabana ... ya I see mo pete here every year for that.

Truth is Toronto is a completely different city for Carabana. Also, fancy is right they all preach its a great city. Love the women, strip clubs, night clubs, restaurants etc. but when it comes time to pack their bags its a big fat no.

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Clean slate with a team nobody wanted to be on. lol

Now what side of the argument are you on jeff?
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but when it comes time to pack their bags its a big fat no.
Same can be said for all three major sports teams in this city. None have attracted any big FA's.
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What? The blue jays signed some pretty massive players in their glory days (Roger Clemens, Molitor, Winfield). Maple Leafs had some good signings more recently (Belfour, Mogilny, Roberts, Curtis Joseph).

Look sorry Jeff but until something starts to change, it's pretty hard to shake the notion that American basketball players don't think highly of Toronto.
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What? The blue jays signed some pretty massive players in their glory days (Roger Clemens, Molitor, Winfield). Maple Leafs had some good signings more recently (Belfour, Mogilny, Roberts, Curtis Joseph).

Look sorry Jeff but until something starts to change, it's pretty hard to shake the notion that American basketball players don't think highly of Toronto.
I agree that playing basketball here isn't appealing for most american basketball players. Not arguing that Which is one of the main reasons why i say BC has the toughest job., but i think that if this team drafts properly and Valanciunas pans out and we start winning more players will be more willing to play here. Ray Allen in his prime wanted to play in Toronto before signing an extension in Seattle if i'm not mistaken. Why, VC and a playoff team. As far as the Blue Jays, they imo have the easiest time in bringing in baseball players but even they haven't signed a big name since the 90's unless you count AJ Burnette a top FA (at the time i guess he was). For all three teams though, they will all have problems bringing in top FA unless they start winning plain and simple, including the leafs who haven't signed a Top FA in almost a decade.

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I agree that playing basketball here isn't appealing for most american basketball players. Not arguing that Which is one of the main reasons why i say BC has the toughest job., but i think that if this team drafts properly and Valanciunas pans out and we start winning more players will be more willing to play here. Ray Allen in his prime wanted to play in Toronto before signing an extension in Seattle if i'm not mistaken. Why, VC and a playoff team. As far as the Blue Jays, they imo have the easiest time in bringing in baseball players but even they haven't signed a big name since the 90's unless you count AJ Burnette a top FA (at the time i guess he was). For all three teams though, they will all have problems bringing in top FA unless they start winning plain and simple, including the leafs who haven't signed a Top FA in almost a decade.
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Yeah they all three have issues. And imo, all have trouble signing high end talent. But BC I think has the hardest job to try and convince top talent to play here.
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I think he has that issue. Who was the last big name FA to sign here for them? To a lesser degree of course but it's an issue imo. Some big names don't want to come here because of the scrutiny which also limits his options. Plus the perception of the leafs as a franchise right now isn't great. I think the perception of the Jays is the best of the three, but they play in the hardest division in baseball.
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I agree that playing basketball here isn't appealing for most american basketball players. Not arguing that Which is one of the main reasons why i say BC has the toughest job., but i think that if this team drafts properly and Valanciunas pans out and we start winning more players will be more willing to play here. Ray Allen in his prime wanted to play in Toronto before signing an extension in Seattle if i'm not mistaken. Why, VC and a playoff team. As far as the Blue Jays, they imo have the easiest time in bringing in baseball players but even they haven't signed a big name since the 90's unless you count AJ Burnette a top FA (at the time i guess he was). For all three teams though, they will all have problems bringing in top FA unless they start winning plain and simple, including the leafs who haven't signed a Top FA in almost a decade.
Really? Pretty shit saying the same shit throughout this thread. BC has the hardest time getting top FA to sign here. Blue Jays probably have the easiest time but right now won't spend. Leafs like the other two teams have been losers for so long and because of the scrutiny of the media here have probably the second hardest time getting top FA to want to play here. But that in all cases, winning will change that imo.
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