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Old 12-04-2009, 04:27 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Yeah, and with who? Acie.
I told you that you could do better. He's just going to use you, Aar.

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:28 PM   #182 (permalink)
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Aar is full of shit...he'd cheat in a second.

The truth is, no women want him.



No women besides your wife.

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:29 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Ok then, a pro athlete. While rare, I'm sure there are a few who have remained faithful after having "every hypothetical in front of them." Or a rockstar, or a billionaire, etc.
They haven't seen every combination though. Be real. There are too many to even put into numbers.

You could change so many variables in each equation (who the girl was, where they were, if he fought with his wife etc.). There is an infinite amount of possibilities.

In some of those possibilities, everyone would break (just opinion).
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:29 PM   #184 (permalink)
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(I'm not sure if I understand 100% what you're saying but I think I do)

The issue here is that we are dealing in hypotheticals. Whether or not someone has done something in the past could be because they were never given the opportunity or the opportunity that I theorize would turn them into a cheater.

So for me to believe, you would have to find me a person that has had every hypothetical in front of them and said no.

This is impossible, not enough time. So I can't be moved off my marker either.
Ren.... 'trane's done a pretty good job of laying things out here.

No one's saying that they'll be in love with their partner forever and never leave 100%.

What some of us have said is that WHILE we're in a committed relationship we won't do our partner the disservice of cheating on them.

If it comes to that point we'd rather "man up" and end things instead and THEN procede to the next relationship.

Why is that so hard to believe?

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:32 PM   #185 (permalink)
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zactly torap. i won't cheat. that doesn't mean i'll never get divorced, although i hope not. its' the dishonesty that i oppose reni, and that derives precisely from a logic of committment.
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:34 PM   #186 (permalink)
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Ren.... 'trane's done a pretty good job of laying things out here.

No one's saying that they'll be in love with their partner forever and never leave 100%.

What some of us have said is that WHILE we're in a committed relationship we won't don't our partner the disservice of cheating on them.

If it comes to that point we'd rather "man up" and end things instead.

Why is that so hard to believe?
I believe you completely and I think that's the right thing to do. I'm just saying making the statement that you won't EVER cheat is a total crock.

We have no idea what the future holds. No idea what the possibilities are. I applaud the concept of being faithful, I just think it's unrealistic to say you KNOW you will be. As I said above, there are infinite possibilities.

Out of those, your behaviour is unknown.
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Yeah.

'trane, ToRap and I are all on the same page, trying to explain the same thing.

There are options besides cheating. If you decide you want someone else, end it with your partner. Still painful, but LESS painful than cheating.
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:35 PM   #188 (permalink)
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No women besides your wife.

BOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Please take her.

I have no use for her anymore.
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:35 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Yeah.

'trane, ToRap and I are all on the same page, trying to explain the same thing.

There are options besides cheating. If you decide you want someone else, end it with your partner. Still painful, but LESS painful than cheating.
Well I didn't know I was talking to people that could predict the future! Maybe I should get the lotto numbers.
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I believe you completely and I think that's the right thing to do. I'm just saying making the statement that you won't EVER cheat is a total crock.

We have no idea what the future holds. No idea what the possibilities are. I applaud the concept of being faithful, I just think it's unrealistic to say you KNOW you will be. As I said above, there are infinite possibilities.

Out of those, your behaviour is unknown.
I get what you're saying.

So it's like me saying "I never wanna have "the surgery" and become a man".

But hey. Maybe one day I will. Right?
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Please take her.

I have no use for her anymore.
Thanks, but no. I'm going to leave M, buy a yacht, get a porn moustache and a pair of Speedos and a collection of dildos and live the single life.

'Cuda, you can board my boat.
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I get what you're saying.

So it's like me saying "I never wanna have "the surgery" and become a man".

But hey. Maybe one day I will. Right?
hahahahhaa

Well yeah.... As absurd as it is, you never know what the hell is going to happen.

I just don't feel it's fair to judge people when you don't know what has gone on in their lives.

They should still pay the consequences for their action, but I can't pass judgement!
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I believe you completely and I think that's the right thing to do. I'm just saying making the statement that you won't EVER cheat is a total crock.

We have no idea what the future holds. No idea what the possibilities are. I applaud the concept of being faithful, I just think it's unrealistic to say you KNOW you will be. As I said above, there are infinite possibilities.

Out of those, your behaviour is unknown.
*sigh* You're killing me Ren... you really are. lol.

Let me try another approach.

I have NEVER tried a cigarette. Not in my 34 years on this earth.

I never WILL try a cigarette or become a smoker.

This is fact.

The only way that this would happen is if someone lobotomized me and stuck a cig. in my mouth.

There is no amount of temptation that could possibly make me do it.

So unless you're going to put a gun to a loved one's head I can GUARANTEE you that it'll never happen.
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you keep going on about predicting the future. it's not about a prediction, it's about knowing who you are. i can say without hesitation that if the hottest girl came at me and i was hammered drunk, and we were in vegas, and i was mad at my wife, and there was no chance of her ever finding out or of me ever getting caught, i wouldn't even think about cheating. i have too much respect, both for my wife and for my committment to her. it's stunningly simple for me. it's just not something i would consider. i know where i stand on this. i've always felt that way, and that's teh basis of my committment to my wife. if that falls apart, so does our relationship.
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Oh and for the record I think you're all potential killers too :P
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you keep going on about predicting the future. it's not about a prediction, it's about knowing who you are. i can say without hesitation that if the hottest girl came at me and i was hammered drunk, and we were in vegas, and i was mad at my wife, and there was no chance of her ever finding out or of me ever getting caught, i wouldn't even think about cheating. i have too much respect, both for my wife and for my committment to her. it's stunningly simple for me. it's just not something i would consider. i know where i stand on this. i've always felt that way, and that's teh basis of my committment to my wife. if that falls apart, so does our relationship.
Have you been the same person since the day you were born? (that is for you too TOrap, don't care what you say NOW. It's only true now)
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no, but i've been pretty consistent on the vast majority of deep commitments since i have been an adult.
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no, but i've been pretty consistent on the vast majority of deep commitments since i have been an adult.
Circumstances change is all I'm saying to you. There are people that are deeply religious and devote their lives to it and one day STOP. The opposite occurs too.

In 5 years you could be a completely different person than you are now. Not saying it's likely, hell it's REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY (do i need to keep going?) unlikely.

It's not "never" tho
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Thanks, but no. I'm going to leave M, buy a yacht, get a porn moustache and a pair of Speedos and a collection of dildos and live the single life.

'Cuda, you can board my boat.
I'm on it, but only if I can call you Cap'n Crunch.
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Well yeah.... As absurd as it is, you never know what the hell is going to happen.

I just don't feel it's fair to judge people when you don't know what has gone on in their lives.

They should still pay the consequences for their action, but I can't pass judgement!
What possible justification could Tiger offer to justify his actions?

Let's be clear here.... if he just up and left his wife his one day and wanted a divorce no one here would judge him at all.

Like you said... things happen.

But to KNOWINGLY lie to her and bang how many different women behind her back? He's an idiot. And her deserves every bit of the punishment that he's getting now. I don't care if she's the most frigid chick on earth and won't even touch him.... he could have always left.
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