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Old 09-13-2009, 09:24 PM   #161 (permalink)
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In other words, the second coming of Sampras?
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:41 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:58 AM   #163 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:36 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Federer just completely outdid that point in his match against Del Potro. He is playing like Nadal out there. Wow! The ground he covered. Let's see if he can make it last. He really does look like a whole new player right now.

Meanwhile - they showed a good closeup of Serena's foot foul. It was actually a good and obvious call. Serena should have been suspended, particularly considering how much she dismissed the whole thing. I think the game loses some credibility allowing her to merely pay off a fine. And I have to wonder if she was exhibiting roid rage.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:37 PM   #165 (permalink)
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anybody know what channel the mens final is on?
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:41 PM   #166 (permalink)
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It's on TSN as well as the CBS feeds from Seattle.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:44 PM   #167 (permalink)
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It's on TSN as well as the CBS feeds from Seattle.
oh kk thanks...i was checking the guide on my rogers box and it has NFL primetime under TSN but it is the tennis game...i see Federer is doing well
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:35 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:40 PM   #169 (permalink)
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That sucked.

But hats of to Del Potro.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:16 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Fed would not be the #1 without Nadal having worn himself down so badly. You can call Nadal a flash in the pan if you like. I see a guy that with some of the strongest competition ever, dominates everyone when he's anywhere near healthy, which he very clearly is not right now. He is going to go beyond FIFTEEN when all is said and done, and he won't take his entire career to get a career grand slam. He'll likely a get a grand slam in a calendar year. And that is with an incredibly strong field as opposed to Federer, who had nobody much to challenge him until Nadal came along and beat him over and over.

I love Federer too. But to me there is no comparison. As long as Nadal's body holds up he should bury the guy. And since he doesn't have to put in quite the same amount of work as when he was developing his game, I think his body will hold up. I'll whoa and slow down the second I see Nadal doing so, how about that?
C'mon LX lol.... Nadal isn't a flash in the pan.... he's FAR more than that.

But he's not the next "heir apparent".... not while the King is still here... heh-heh.

Nadal had a great year last year... but he still hasn't captured the US Open and has only won Wimbledon and the Aussie Open ONCE. He has a ways to go to catch (and pass) Fed. I doubt very much that he'll get to 15 slams... not with the bruising style that he plays. And even if he does it won't matter... because Fed will have over 20 by then.

Still.... great tourney by BOTH guys and hats off to Del Potro. I told my good buddy that I felt that he was going to win this in spite of never having beaten Fed.... he's just playing some amazing tennis right now.

Good for him.

And good for Kim too!
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:45 AM   #171 (permalink)
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I have missed Federer's games in the US open so I cant judge, but I have to say, I dont think he played that well in both tournaments he won this year. Doesnt surprise me he lost after seeing the way Del Po is playing.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:07 PM   #172 (permalink)
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C'mon LX lol.... Nadal isn't a flash in the pan.... he's FAR more than that.

But he's not the next "heir apparent".... not while the King is still here... heh-heh.

Nadal had a great year last year... but he still hasn't captured the US Open and has only won Wimbledon and the Aussie Open ONCE. He has a ways to go to catch (and pass) Fed. I doubt very much that he'll get to 15 slams... not with the bruising style that he plays. And even if he does it won't matter... because Fed will have over 20 by then.

Still.... great tourney by BOTH guys and hats off to Del Potro. I told my good buddy that I felt that he was going to win this in spite of never having beaten Fed.... he's just playing some amazing tennis right now.

Good for him.

And good for Kim too!
I'm calling it then. He's better than Fed. I think giving him the beating he did in those wins at Wimbledon and Australia, and reducing to the guy to tears to the point where he could barely breathe says more than you're willing to admit.

Federer's biggest problem is that he's just not a five set guy. Even at his best he might not have been, but then he never got there much if at all. He unravels shockingly easy. Whereas Nadal bears down when his back is against the wall and he catches bad breaks.
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:58 AM   #173 (permalink)
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Federer's biggest problem is that he's just not a five set guy. Even at his best he might not have been, but then he never got there much if at all. He unravels shockingly easy. Whereas Nadal bears down when his back is against the wall and he catches bad breaks.
didn't he win a 5 setter a at Wimbledon recently?
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:40 AM   #174 (permalink)
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didn't he win a 5 setter a at Wimbledon recently?
This year...

He also beat Nadal in a 5 sets for the Championship in 2007 and I wouldn't say he wilted in the 2008 five set finals either.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:09 AM   #175 (permalink)
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2007 wimbledon was the first sign that longer matches could effect him. At that point Nadal's game on grass was not much to talk about and he really benefited by just staying in the match. If I remember correctly there were a couple of sets that went pretty quickly.

2008 Wimbledon was just the best match ever, and he ultimately did wilt in the sense that the guy playing in set 5 was just not the same as the guy at the start of the match. But he still showed an ability to stretch out his game and fight to the end. After that one though, he tanked for a year.

2009 Wimbledon he had an amazing service game, keeping the points shorter and was playing a guy who wilts more than him. It was another classic simply because of how both guys kept going at the end, but it really felt like a contest to see who would finally take command.

I didn't mean to suggest that he could never win long matches, just that he suddenly becomes very vulnerable, and uncharacteristically so, when he gets into marathons.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:02 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Could it be that he only goes to five sets when playing below his best?

Hence why his fifth set record is around the .500 mark.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:31 PM   #177 (permalink)
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It's possible. But I think the pattern is more in line with the other night, where he started out looking fantastic, then still had the edge although he had a terrible time with his first serve, and then he got the call reversed at just the point where Del Potro was starting to gain some confidence, and bingo - the unravelling began in full.

That's the thing about the marathon matches. There is almost always going to be points where frustration sets in. He really has trouble getting past those points. I don't think it's conditioning at all. It's strictly mental, particularly if his opponent gains a noticeable edge over any period of time.
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:41 PM   #178 (permalink)
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It's possible. But I think the pattern is more in line with the other night, where he started out looking fantastic, then still had the edge although he had a terrible time with his first serve, and then he got the call reversed at just the point where Del Potro was starting to gain some confidence, and bingo - the unravelling began in full.

That's the thing about the marathon matches. There is almost always going to be points where frustration sets in. He really has trouble getting past those points. I don't think it's conditioning at all. It's strictly mental, particularly if his opponent gains a noticeable edge over any period of time.
I think that you're confusing Fed with Roddick lol... we'll see though.

Also... in 2007 Fed had mono and was battling injuries... and he STILL finished #2 and routinely kicked ass. In 2008 at Wimbledon that match could have gone either way... it was as close as close can be... and Nadal played the absolute match of his life to beat him.

This year was just Del Potro's year. No shame for either Nadal or Fed in losing to him. He played great.
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:59 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Dont remeber well, but didnt Federer not win any tournament while being number 2? I think apart of the mono, the dude is human and its imposible to maintain that level for that long. A slump was due sooner or later. I love both Federer and Nadal, Nadal is probably my favourite athlete though so I may be biased, but I think since some months before Nadal got the number one he became the best player out there. Injuries have changed that for a while. IMO when healthy he is the best, the true question is, will injuries respect him and let him have a great career?

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Old 12-05-2009, 01:06 PM   #180 (permalink)
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