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Old 09-07-2009, 03:26 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Oudin continues her Cindarella run with ANOTHER upset win today against #13 Petrova.

Go girl go!
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:18 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Incredible. I'll be worried if she ever wins the first set.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:54 AM   #143 (permalink)
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Ladies and gentlemen... Nadal is officially back.

The first set and a half against Monfils was some of the best tennis that I've ever seen.... but Rafa was just too much for him in the long run. The kid (Nadal) is a machine. He doesn't ever look like he's tired.

In other matches.... I was pretty surprised that Tsonga lost and SHOCKED to see Murray get worked.... could very well be headed for another Federer/Nadal final.

Djokovic vs. Verdasco should be friggin' awesome tomorrow afternoon.

And Oudin is in action again tomorrow evening.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:48 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Nadal is improving but he is far from back. That abs injury is not letting him service correctly. Lets hope he is ready for the semis.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:16 AM   #145 (permalink)
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It amazes me that Nadal was able to win that one. He is a shadow of himself. The concentration he needs to get through these matches is incredible. I can't wait for him to get back fully healthy. I don't expect too much in this tournament. But to see how much he is able to think through points and force his opponents to still play their best if they hope to win is pretty nice all the same.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:07 PM   #146 (permalink)
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First set Nadal

Its simply amazing how he crushes his rivals mentally. Gonzalez is playing better that him and has had the inniciative all along in this set. 6 - 5 and had 4 set points, but Nadals recovers and kills him in the tie break. Simply amazing.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:19 PM   #147 (permalink)
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If someone wants to watch the game online:

http://www.rojadirecta.com/freedocas...6A31DA213D109A
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:34 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Sweet and easy win for Nadal. It would be amazing to see if he could recover enough to challenge for the title. I love how he was honest enough to say how lucky he felt for the long weather delay.
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What a joke of a game.
Gonzalez gets all depressed and battles his inner demons for the next set -> WTF?

Nobody paid to see this shit.
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:44 PM   #150 (permalink)
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It amazes me that Nadal was able to win that one. He is a shadow of himself. The concentration he needs to get through these matches is incredible. I can't wait for him to get back fully healthy. I don't expect too much in this tournament. But to see how much he is able to think through points and force his opponents to still play their best if they hope to win is pretty nice all the same.
"A shadow of himself"??

He's beat some DAMN good players and he's in the semis! I'd rate that as "pretty damn good" considering he's never won the US Open.

He may be taking a tad off of his serve but he looks as good as he ever was IMO.

He's in for a tough test against Del Potro though (who has been playing some amazing tennis recently).

The conclusion of that Gonzalez/Nadal match was pure BS.... turned a great match into a farce with that stupid rain delay....
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:30 PM   #151 (permalink)
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It goes way beyond his serve. He's not playing very much offense at all. He's playing spectacularly in the mental game, and not allowing the pain to effect his play. He's never won the US OPen because he's always worn out by now. It's a shame that he hasn't been able to capitalize on the rest he's had. If he meets up with a player that doesn't beat themselves then he's not going to have enough to win. That's what I call a shadow of himself.
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:11 AM   #152 (permalink)
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It goes way beyond his serve. He's not playing very much offense at all. He's playing spectacularly in the mental game, and not allowing the pain to effect his play. He's never won the US OPen because he's always worn out by now. It's a shame that he hasn't been able to capitalize on the rest he's had. If he meets up with a player that doesn't beat themselves then he's not going to have enough to win. That's what I call a shadow of himself.
That's Nadal's game though. Defense-first. He wears you down and forces you into making errors when you try to go for too much (because he GET to so many more balls than everyone else).

He's more of a counterpuncher than a guy like Federer or Roddick who just look to blaze winners by you.

You don't physically dominate an athletic player like Monfils without being "on your game".

If he was scraping through his wins with long 5-setters I'd agree with you but he's done a nice job taking care of business.

Even at his best I wouldn't have put him as the favourite to win this tourney though.
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At his best he wins the tournament, and any tournament for years to come, no problem. His game is much more than just defense. What blows me away about the guy is how he can go from defense to offense to the point that you can barely distinguish. On top of that he has great touch around the net, and now he can barely get down to make use of those abilities.

How did he physically dominate Monfils? Monfils couldn't hit a shot. All Nadal had to do was get the ball over the net. Don't get me wrong - his level of play is very nice. But it's mostly his mental game, where he's placing the ball, how he's reading his opponent, how he still doesn't give up on almost any shot (where he usually never gives up on any shot at all).
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So did Serena deserve to lose a point? She said she's never been in a fight and can't see how she could be seen as intimidating. If she hadn't destroyed her racket earlier, then maybe she has a case, but she looked intimidating to me the way she presented her racket as though she was going to use it and maybe destroy that one on the line judge's head.

Crazy to make the line fault call. I think Serena would have lost for sure, and I wanted to see Clijsters earn it outright.
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So did Serena deserve to lose a point? She said she's never been in a fight and can't see how she could be seen as intimidating. If she hadn't destroyed her racket earlier, then maybe she has a case, but she looked intimidating to me the way she presented her racket as though she was going to use it and maybe destroy that one on the line judge's head.

Crazy to make the line fault call. I think Serena would have lost for sure, and I wanted to see Clijsters earn it outright.
She deserved it.

You can't say "I'm going to take this ball and ram it down your throat" to a line judge.... you just can't. If someone in the NBA does that he gets an automatic T and maybe even gets tossed.

She should know better.

Clijsters was truly inspiring.... and you'd have to think that she's the favourite going in to the final.... Wozniaki's idol growing up was Kim... go figure lol... she's a sweet kid though... nice story for her too.
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At his best he wins the tournament, and any tournament for years to come, no problem. His game is much more than just defense. What blows me away about the guy is how he can go from defense to offense to the point that you can barely distinguish. On top of that he has great touch around the net, and now he can barely get down to make use of those abilities.

How did he physically dominate Monfils? Monfils couldn't hit a shot. All Nadal had to do was get the ball over the net. Don't get me wrong - his level of play is very nice. But it's mostly his mental game, where he's placing the ball, how he's reading his opponent, how he still doesn't give up on almost any shot (where he usually never gives up on any shot at all).
Whoa fella.... slow down. Let's not let ONE good year from Nadal speak for his whole career.

Federer is still in his prime and he FIFTEEN majors... that's nothing to scoff at. He's the world's #1. And he deserves to be there. If we're talking about the French Nadal will ALWAYS be favoured to win that.... but the other 3 events? Much more wide open. Like I said before.... Del Potro is playing some AMAZING tennis this year and he could throw himself into the mix with a win over Roger (which I could see happening in spite of the poor record against him).

As for Nadal's match against Monfils.... did you notice how Monfils looked at the end of the second set compared to Nadal? He was breathing hard... tugging on his shorts... while Nadal looked like he was out there warming up. his cardio is INSANE. Ab injury or no ab injury I don't think he had a chance against Del Potro.
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She deserved it.

You can't say "I'm going to take this ball and ram it down your throat" to a line judge.... you just can't. If someone in the NBA does that he gets an automatic T and maybe even gets tossed.

She should know better.
Very true, but it should have never come to that. Brutal call, especially in the situation with the game on the line. Very close match decided by a dumb call.
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Whoa fella.... slow down. Let's not let ONE good year from Nadal speak for his whole career.

Federer is still in his prime and he FIFTEEN majors... that's nothing to scoff at. He's the world's #1. And he deserves to be there. If we're talking about the French Nadal will ALWAYS be favoured to win that.... but the other 3 events? Much more wide open. Like I said before.... Del Potro is playing some AMAZING tennis this year and he could throw himself into the mix with a win over Roger (which I could see happening in spite of the poor record against him).

As for Nadal's match against Monfils.... did you notice how Monfils looked at the end of the second set compared to Nadal? He was breathing hard... tugging on his shorts... while Nadal looked like he was out there warming up. his cardio is INSANE. Ab injury or no ab injury I don't think he had a chance against Del Potro.
Fed would not be the #1 without Nadal having worn himself down so badly. You can call Nadal a flash in the pan if you like. I see a guy that with some of the strongest competition ever, dominates everyone when he's anywhere near healthy, which he very clearly is not right now. He is going to go beyond FIFTEEN when all is said and done, and he won't take his entire career to get a career grand slam. He'll likely a get a grand slam in a calendar year. And that is with an incredibly strong field as opposed to Federer, who had nobody much to challenge him until Nadal came along and beat him over and over.

I love Federer too. But to me there is no comparison. As long as Nadal's body holds up he should bury the guy. And since he doesn't have to put in quite the same amount of work as when he was developing his game, I think his body will hold up. I'll whoa and slow down the second I see Nadal doing so, how about that?
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Wouldn't surprise me if Del Potro ends up taking over from Fed/Nadal as the dominant #1 in the sport. Tomorrow's final could be a seminal moment like when Federer beat Sampras at Wimbledon and some other passing of the torch moments over the years

That seems premature. but I really think this guy is a tennis freak of nature. To be 6'6 and that agile and fast... it gives him an ultimate X factor that Djoker, Murray, etc. don't have. Del Potro has the potential to be one of the best on-serve players ever, he's only just started to tap into his ability there. In his prime he could be a guy who serves like Karlovic/Isner who can actually move and return. Meanining if he doesn't finish the point off the immediate creampuff return, his positional advantage will be so great that he can lead it there anyways

Nadal in particular will probably be dominated by JMDP from now on because he's the perfect foil to him. Rafa's best weapon is his spin which makes the ball bounce upwards huge and forces his opponents to hit extra high balls all day. This is COMPLETLEY neutralized against Del Potro. As perfect Nadal is a foil for Federer's game, Del Potro's is against Nadal

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