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Windex 02-07-2009 12:38 PM

A-Rod took Roids
 
Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

Story Highlights
*Rodriguez tested positive for Primobolan and testosterone while with the Rangers
*Under the 2003 survey testing, there were no penalties for a positive test
*Rodriguez was one of 104 players who tested positive that year

A Rod thru the years

1993

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...-rodriguez.jpg

1996

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...guez.6.new.jpg

1998

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...-rodriguez.jpg

2001

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...001.581623.jpg

2003

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...3.11AE7967.jpg

2008

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...8.80319982.jpg

Stonezz 02-07-2009 12:39 PM

A-Rod tested positive for roids
 
In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.

Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.

When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

Phone messages left by SI for players' union executive director Donald Fehr were not returned.

Though MLB's drug policy has expressly prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003. The results of that year's survey testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the players association. Rodriguez's testing information was found, however, after federal agents, armed with search warrants, seized the '03 test results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., of Long Beach, Calif., one of two labs used by MLB in connection with that year's survey testing. The seizure took place in April 2004 as part of the government's investigation into 10 major league players linked to the BALCO scandal -- though Rodriguez himself has never been connected to BALCO.

The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.

Primobolan, which is also known by the chemical name methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug that is more expensive than most steroids. (A 12-week cycle can cost $500.) It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development, according to steroid experts, and has relatively few side effects. Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse employee who in 2007 pleaded guilty to illegal distribution of steroids to numerous major league players, described in his recent book, Bases Loaded: The Inside Story of the Steroid Era in Baseball by the Central Figure in the Mitchell Report, how players increasingly turned to drugs such as Primobolan in 2003, in part to avoid detection in testing. Primobolan is detectable for a shorter period of time than the steroid previously favored by players, Deca-Durabolin. According to a search of FDA records, Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States, nor was it in 2003. (Testosterone can be taken legally with an appropriate medical prescription.)

Rodriguez finished the 2003 season by winning his third straight league home run title (with 47) and the first of his three MVP awards.

Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04. According to the 2007 Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball, in September 2004, Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the players' union, violated an agreement with MLB by tipping off a player (not named in the report) about an upcoming, supposedly unannounced drug test. Three major league players who spoke to SI said that Rodriguez was also tipped by Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later that month. Rodriguez declined to respond on Thursday when asked about the warning Orza provided him.

When Orza was asked on Friday in the union's New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told a reporter, "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."

Anticipating that the 33-year-old Rodriguez, who has 553 career home runs, could become the game's alltime home run king, the Yankees signed him in November 2007 to a 10-year, incentive-laden deal that could be worth as much as $305 million. Rodriguez is reportedly guaranteed $275 million and could receive a $6 million bonus each time he ties one of the four players at the top of the list: Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Hank Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds (762), and an additional $6 million for passing Bonds. In order to receive the incentive money, the contract reportedly requires Rodriguez to make extra promotional appearances and sign memorabilia for the Yankees as part of a marketing plan surrounding his pursuit of Bonds's record. Two sources familiar with Rodriguez's contract told SI that there is no language about steroids in the contract that would put Rodriguez at risk of losing money.

Arguments before an 11-judge panel in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena are ongoing between government prosecutors and the players' association over the government's seizure of the test results from the Long Beach lab. The agents who collected the material had a search warrant only for the results for the 10 BALCO-linked players. Attorneys from the union argue that the government is entitled only to the results for those players, not the entire list. If the court sides with the union, federal authorities may be barred from using the positive survey test results of non-BALCO players such as Rodriguez in their ongoing investigations.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

Windex 02-07-2009 12:41 PM

dude we made the same post 1 minute apart, someone should merge 'em.

Stonezz 02-07-2009 12:41 PM

^Lmao damn

Raptorman 02-07-2009 12:50 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fTT9xlgZ9C...0/Surprise.jpg

Ugo Ferst 02-07-2009 03:16 PM

honestly. who cares, all that bonds shit gonna happen again?? I could take roids til the cows come home, i wont hit like Arod or Bonds.

INSIDER 02-07-2009 03:28 PM

are people really shocked.
theres guys at my gym that take steroids just to get bigger pecks...
imagine if taking steroids equaled getting millions of more dollars and fame (what is exactly the case for mlb)... dont you think it would be a no brainer?
i'm willing to bet 95% of baseball players took the drugs at least once over their careers.

this is actually a joke, this whole steroid talk... why are people so freaked out and surprised?
steriods, if taken properly and controlled are safe. broadway performers take it to strengthen their vocal chords and makes sure they can belt out the high notes... omigosh!!!!!!
they all do it america, deal with it... theres nothing you can do.

Claudius 02-07-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 138064)
are people really shocked.
theres guys at my gym that take steroids just to get bigger pecks...
imagine if taking steroids equaled getting millions of more dollars and fame (what is exactly the case for mlb)... dont you think it would be a no brainer?
i'm willing to bet 95% of baseball players took the drugs at least once over their careers.

this is actually a joke, this whole steroid talk... why are people so freaked out and surprised?
steriods, if taken properly and controlled are safe. broadway performers take it to strengthen their vocal chords and makes sure they can belt out the high notes... omigosh!!!!!!
they all do it america, deal with it... theres nothing you can do.

The fact that it takes away from the spirit of the game to me really irks me.

We as a society have an obsession with two extremes: anorexia and bigorexia. For males bigorexia seems common. Anorexia for females.

N64 02-07-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 138082)
The fact that it takes away from the spirit of the game to me really irks me.

We as a society have an obsession with two extremes: anorexia and bigorexia. For males bigorexia seems common. Anorexia for females.

lol is bigorexia a real word? seeing those pics of arod it's so obvious he took something to get bigger...ppl don't grow like that after puberty or even during puberty :haha:

The MVP of West Hollywood 02-07-2009 05:53 PM

To be fair even if he hit less longball, ARod would still be one of the league's best. But you could say the same for Barry's career

Baseball's a mess. Between this and the horrible uncapped league system that's going to murder smaller teams in this recession, it's just a mess

INSIDER 02-07-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 138082)
The fact that it takes away from the spirit of the game to me really irks me.

We as a society have an obsession with two extremes: anorexia and bigorexia. For males bigorexia seems common. Anorexia for females.

oh i totally agree CG...
but its just that everyone is so surprised about it that i find funny.

the_ raps_analyst 02-07-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 138163)
oh i totally agree CG...
but its just that everyone is so surprised about it that i find funny.

yeah, it was kind of obvious he was on roids. Most players are but the players are in the drivers seat because if the mlb were to say all the names of people who are taking roids or who have taken roids, it would be dead.

Jay 02-08-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolimitz64 (Post 138122)
lol is bigorexia a real word? seeing those pics of arod it's so obvious he took something to get bigger...ppl don't grow like that after puberty or even during puberty :haha:

Those photos prove nothing. He was about 18 in the first photo, around 33 in the last one. People do grow after puberty if they are on a steady workout program (even one without roids). A-Rod and I are about a year apart and if I compared how I was built when I entered university (6'3", 185 lbs) to now (6'3" 210 lbs), it's night and day.

Sure, if it turns out to be true, it's disappointing, but the guy's still one of the best raw baseball talents I have ever seen.

Superjudge 02-08-2009 11:23 AM

1. 95% of MLB athletes have NOT taken Steroids. Not everyone is of weak character.

2. Using drugs to gain an advantage is terrible. At the end of the day, what you do to your body is your own business, but in official competition, where it's banned, it's simply cheating, and it isn't anything more than poor charactor and disrespect for both the game you play and it's competitors.

I know there's pressure to be the best, but thats the problem with our society, people aren't able to accept defeat or failure, its way easier to take an easy route and suceed, no matter what the cost.

I'm happy A-Rod is going down, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Superjudge 02-08-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 138573)
Those photos prove nothing. He was about 18 in the first photo, around 33 in the last one. People do grow after puberty if they are on a steady workout program (even one without roids). A-Rod and I are about a year apart and if I compared how I was built when I entered university (6'3", 185 lbs) to now (6'3" 210 lbs), it's night and day.

Sure, if it turns out to be true, it's disappointing, but the guy's still one of the best raw baseball talents I have ever seen.

Pictures re obviously not gonna tell the tale. However, the jump you should pay attention to was between 98 and 2003.

There's where he was juicing.

Acie 02-08-2009 11:48 AM

Steriods didn't help him overcome being the most overpaid choker and poorest loser in all of professional sports, so whatever.

Claudius 02-08-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolimitz64 (Post 138122)
lol is bigorexia a real word? seeing those pics of arod it's so obvious he took something to get bigger...ppl don't grow like that after puberty or even during puberty :haha:

Bigorexia is word commonly used amongst cultural theorists ;) I suggest reading Susan Faludi ;)

Claudius 02-08-2009 12:24 PM

My problem with this is just the overall lying of it. Just be honest with yourself and get it over with.

It all started with Rafael Palmeiro saying, "I have never taken Steroids in my life." And then, you have Big Mac pleading the 5th ammendment. It was ridiculous and then they (Palmeiro) gets caught. They created a culture of denial, every single one of these guys, and now they have to deal with it.

It's pathetic in all honestly.

Jean0987654321 02-08-2009 12:24 PM

Its old news + if he took roids, why does he still run fast?? o_O
Maybe a MLB drug test bug :D

Jay 02-08-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean0987654321 (Post 138682)
Its old news + if he took roids, why does he still run fast?? o_O
Maybe a MLB drug test bug :D

Huh? :confused2:

Anyway, yeah Claudius, I'm with you on that. Just come out and say it already. Andy Pettite had it right and even Giambi with his pseudo confession was better than this garbage.

I wonder what all the people who wanted him to break Bonds' HR record are going to say now? Who can they turn to now for salvation? Griffey's body won't let him play more than a couple more years...


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