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Old 03-01-2010, 08:44 PM   #161 (permalink)
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i think you're on you own TO.

Well just to clarify, it's not my intention to take anything away from the junior or the entertainment of those matches, but the Olympics to me mean way, way more. It's truly the best and biggest championship in the world. It's all in the meaning and purpose, my friend. The world juniors don't even compare IMO.

It's like the FIFA under 20 tourny. Like some of those games were really entertaining, but it doesn't even compare to the real FIFA world cup. not even close.
Oh I can't dispute the fact that the Olympics are on a whole other level in terms of pure spectacle and crowd recognition.....

.... I guess I'm just talking about it from a pure hockey standpoint. I just enjoyed those games more. And the drama with Eberle's heroics were just INSANE.

Last night's final was spectacular though to be sure.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:46 AM   #162 (permalink)
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Another thing, you gotta wonder what the ratings were for the game... I'm thinking the most watched even in Canadian TV history.
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Canada's 3-2 overtime win over the U.S. in Sunday's gold-medal Olympic menís hockey game has become the most-watched television broadcast in Canadian history, with nearly half of the country's population watching the entire contest.

Some 26.5 million, roughly 80 per cent of Canadians, tuned in for part of the final at Canada Hockey Place in Vancouver, with an average audience of 16.6 million viewers, setting the record. The audience peaked at 22 million -- or two thirds of the nation -- when Sidney Crosby scored in the extra frame to ignite a cheer heard across Canada.

The game, which aired live on nine television networks in eight languages, captured an 85 share, meaning 85 per cent of Canadians watching television at the time were watching the gold medal match.
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South of the border, NBC said the hockey final was the most-watched hockey game in the U.S. in 30 years.

The NBC broadcast drew an average viewership of 27.6 million, the biggest hockey number since the U.S. versus Finland 1980 gold medal game in Lake Placid (32.8 million). It got a 17.6 overnight rating, about four times what the NASCAR race on Sunday did. It was the second-highest rated non-NFL sporting event of the year in the States, behind only the Texas/Alabama BCS National Championship game in January (18.2)
Gold-medal game most-watched on TV ever - sportsnet.ca WAP
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:30 AM   #163 (permalink)
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Why would you think Finland could beat them/Miller when Canada couldn't?
Maybe because historically the US has a tough time with Finland. Maybe because they were evenly matched up, even between the pipes. Maybe because Finland is ranked higher in the IIHF rankings. Is that good enough reasons for you?
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I find the FAN from 6:00 am through to 2:00 to be hockey overkill all the time - well before the Olympics even.

That being said, i don't mind it today and look forward to the the media response (for a couple of days at least). I'm still on such a high from that game.
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I'm still on a high. Such a fantastic game. It's one of those moments where people are going to ask where were you when it happened.
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Am I the only one who liked the WJCs more than the Olympics?

No doubt last night's game was awesome.... but for my money those 2 Jr. games between CAN and the USA were probably 2 of the best games that I've ever seen in my life.

The States are going to be a serious power in 2014.
The WJC's are always good. But the skill level and star power was so vastly superior at the olympics, that it's hard to put the WJCs ahead of the Olympics. At the WJCs, the only teams you really look out for are the US, Sweden, Canada and the Russians. At the Olympics, every team has a fantastic shot at making the finals. Slovakia was so close to making the gold medal finals. Finland had a good shot until they had a 1st period meltdown in the semis.

As for the States being a serious power in 2014, they'll be better, but the Canadians still have a embarassment of riches when it'll come to Sochi. Guys who didn't make team this year like Stamkos, like Matt Duchesne, like John Tavares, like Tyler Myers and probably like Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin are going to make the squad.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:43 AM   #166 (permalink)
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The thing too is that the Americans had to have Ryan Miller to stand on his head in order to win this tourney. Had he been just solid, the US would have lost in the quarters.
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honest question here - why was this game such a big deal? yes we won, it was a high level game, and it was intense. i agree with all of that. but why is this any bigger than other olympic wins? or other big international wins? canada is a team that is expected to medal, so why is this in such a defining moment? why will we look back on this and remember what we were doing at the time anymore than we would with the win in 2002?

i'm happy, of course, but the talk is surpring to me. cbc had ron maclean, margaret macmillan and john ralston saul (quite a big-time panel to be honest) on this morning talking about it being a defining moment in canadian history, and i still don't get why. ralston saul's point was that it was a time when canadians of all creeds, colours, religions, nationalities, etc came together to celebrate, wear flags, shout and be heard, and on that level i understand what he is getting at. but in terms of longer-term sports and hockey fans, i am having trouble understanding why this is so important. what sets this apart from 2002? home ice?
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:28 AM   #168 (permalink)
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It's a more memorable victory. Had Canada won 2-1 in regulation or scored an empty net goal, it wouldn't have had the same feel or been as "historic". But because there was a hint of adversity and a lot of people wrote off Canada after the US loss plus the game going into OT, I suppose the game and the goal took on a more of a epic meaning.
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honest question here - why was this game such a big deal? yes we won, it was a high level game, and it was intense. i agree with all of that. but why is this any bigger than other olympic wins? or other big international wins? canada is a team that is expected to medal, so why is this in such a defining moment? why will we look back on this and remember what we were doing at the time anymore than we would with the win in 2002?

i'm happy, of course, but the talk is surpring to me. cbc had ron maclean, margaret macmillan and john ralston saul (quite a big-time panel to be honest) on this morning talking about it being a defining moment in canadian history, and i still don't get why. ralston saul's point was that it was a time when canadians of all creeds, colours, religions, nationalities, etc came together to celebrate, wear flags, shout and be heard, and on that level i understand what he is getting at. but in terms of longer-term sports and hockey fans, i am having trouble understanding why this is so important. what sets this apart from 2002? home ice?
Yeah man... i think it's a little overdone myself. Like the whole Canadian history stuff is wayyyy over the top. I don't really comrehend (or agree with) that. I mean i certainly enjoyed the win and the whole tournament (i even bought myself a Canada hockey sweater due to the olympic fever). I dunno, maybe people want to make these lofty claims so they can feel like they're part of history. Maybe it gives their life more meaning.

I will say that this win meant more than the salt lake gold for a couple of reasons. The fact that the games were at home probably being the biggest one. Add to that how well Canada has been doing in the whole Olympics and how patriotic and proud most of the country felt. It just psychologically amped up the hockey - it did for me i guess. Also, there was the games themselves. COmpletely thrashing 'the favorites' and arch rivals Russians in the semis certainly helped.... and then the drama and intensity of the final - the overtime goal. It was so story book. I freaking loved all of it... Not enough to say i witnessed history, but i loved it enough on a sane level.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:53 AM   #170 (permalink)
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-it was on Canadian soil
-they weren't the favourites
-they won in dramatic fashion
-it was the gold that broke the record on the last day of the games
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As a person that hasnt watched a complete hockey game in about 15 years, I have to admit, it was a great game and a great win.

Acie nicely pointed out all the uniqueness of the win.

And even though the game was for national pride and a long standing rivalry, it was not chippy or dirty or cheap.

I'm gonna let the puckheads enjoy this for as long as they like.
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honest question here - why was this game such a big deal? yes we won, it was a high level game, and it was intense. i agree with all of that. but why is this any bigger than other olympic wins? or other big international wins? canada is a team that is expected to medal, so why is this in such a defining moment? why will we look back on this and remember what we were doing at the time anymore than we would with the win in 2002?

i'm happy, of course, but the talk is surpring to me. cbc had ron maclean, margaret macmillan and john ralston saul (quite a big-time panel to be honest) on this morning talking about it being a defining moment in canadian history, and i still don't get why. ralston saul's point was that it was a time when canadians of all creeds, colours, religions, nationalities, etc came together to celebrate, wear flags, shout and be heard, and on that level i understand what he is getting at. but in terms of longer-term sports and hockey fans, i am having trouble understanding why this is so important. what sets this apart from 2002? home ice?
I think, at this point, it hardly matters why..... the fact is that it did unify our entire country. Maybe we, as a nation, really needed that and latched on to this in a way that went over the top. But I'm glad it happened.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:44 PM   #173 (permalink)
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+ juan.

I'm still on a high. Such a fantastic game. It's one of those moments where people are going to ask where were you when it happened.
I am the same way. I can't even watch Raptors games anymore because compared to the Canada game they suck. Man I am going to miss the Olymipics.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:37 PM   #174 (permalink)
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The WJC's are always good. But the skill level and star power was so vastly superior at the olympics, that it's hard to put the WJCs ahead of the Olympics. At the WJCs, the only teams you really look out for are the US, Sweden, Canada and the Russians. At the Olympics, every team has a fantastic shot at making the finals. Slovakia was so close to making the gold medal finals. Finland had a good shot until they had a 1st period meltdown in the semis.

As for the States being a serious power in 2014, they'll be better, but the Canadians still have a embarassment of riches when it'll come to Sochi. Guys who didn't make team this year like Stamkos, like Matt Duchesne, like John Tavares, like Tyler Myers and probably like Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin are going to make the squad.

Just to be clear.... I was only talking about the 2 WJC games between CAN and the US.

I didn't watch any of the others.

THOSE were the games that I preferred to these Olympic ones (as good as they were).

I agree with 'trane though.... this win is being overdone a bit for my taste. It's special because it's in home soil but I was probably more excited to beat the Russians with arguably our best lineup EVER in 1987 (which was ALSO on home soil).
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I think, at this point, it hardly matters why..... the fact is that it did unify our entire country. Maybe we, as a nation, really needed that and latched on to this in a way that went over the top. But I'm glad it happened.
I also agree with this.

I have an overwhelming desire to go to ROOTS right now and buy myself a Canada sweater lol....

Side Note: The skeleton dude (can't recall his name) is one likeable guy lol.... that walk through whistler with him chugging from a pitcher was greatness.

I was also happy to see Appolo Ohno choke on Canada's fumes a few times in speedskating.
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