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Old 09-15-2009, 09:25 AM   #1201 (permalink)
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I'll agree with what your saying about kessel but if Brian Burke can get the right deal done, you do it asap, I don't think the leafs should give away the farm for kessel but I think burke's got something up his shelve...and let's be honest, ATL will throw anything and everything at kovalchuk to keep him there. A line of kessel, kadri + filler would be fun to watch for years to come.
That's a HUGE if. Who's to say Kadri develops into a top winger? He might turn out to be a Stajan.

Atlanta can throw whatever the want to Kovalchuk, but he's not re-upping because he would have re-signed already if that's the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Thrashers deal him at the deadline for prospects. That's okay if the Leafs want to pass on Kovalchuk. As a Rangers fan, we'll gladly scoop him up.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:56 PM   #1202 (permalink)
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Minor surgery for Leafs' Gustavsson
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Rookie goalie Jonas Gustavsson underwent minor surgery, Tuesday, spending only a few hours in a Toronto hospital after undergoing a procedure called ablation.

Doctors inserted catheters into the groin muscle to dissolve an abnormality that was throwing off the rhythm of Gustavsson's heartbeat.

Gustavsson felt dizzy Friday at the team physical after a strenuous round on the exercise bike. That incident was written off as an overtaxed system.

"We're just lucky it happened when he was put under stress," said coach Ron Wilson "because otherwise it can be difficult to detect."

Gustavsson returned to the ice the day after feeling faint but doctors reviewing his case noticed the problem.

"It's fairly common," Wilson said. "Our doctors say they will do 10 players in a summer."

"We don't expect him to miss more than 48 hours."
Let's hope he's alright. Preseason starts tomorrow
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:51 PM   #1203 (permalink)
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Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs and Boston Bruins have reached an agreement on a trade that will deliver Phil Kessel to the Leafs.

The trade is pending Kessel agreeing to a contract with Toronto. It's a process the Leafs are working on right now.

If the contract gets done, the deal is finalized and the trade goes through. If the Maple Leafs are unable to come to terms on a contract with Kessel, the deal may fall through.

The trade would end a saga that began during the lead-up to the NHL Draft when Kessel originally appeared to be headed to Toronto in exchange for defenceman Tomas Kaberle and a draft pick. However, the deal was scuttled at the last moment due to a miscommunication over the pick.

The Bruins had been unable to re-sign the 21-year old Kessel and the two sides were miles apart on a new contract. A restricted free agent, Kessel was reportedly looking for a deal in the neighbourhood of $4-5 million a season, while the Bruins, who are right up against the league mandated $56.8 million salary cap, could not afford to sign the Madison, Wisconsin native to the terms he desired.

Kessel informed the team through his agent last week that he was through negotiating and intended to sign an offer sheet with one of the league's other 29 clubs.

While both the Nashville Predators and New York Rangers had shown interest, Leafs' general manager Brian Burke's persistence finally paid off.

Kessel, who is sidelined until at least November following rotator cuff surgery, overcame a battle with testicular cancer in 2006 and captured the Masterton Trophy in 2007 for perseverance and dedication to hockey. He enjoyed a career season with the Bruins last year, leading the team with 36 goals in 70 games while adding 24 assists to finish with a career high 60 points. He was selected in the first round, fifth overall by the Bruins in the 2006 NHL Entry draft.
I'm happy, let's just hope Burke got Kessel for the right price
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:55 PM   #1204 (permalink)
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I'm happy, let's just hope Burke got Kessel for the right price
I heard today that it was gonna include 2 1st round picks. Don't know if that's true, but if it is that's crazy.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:14 PM   #1205 (permalink)
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It's just pre-season.... i know i know.... but the first 3 leafs games have been very entertaining. Win or lose, I hope they keep that up into the regular season.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:46 PM   #1206 (permalink)
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I heard today that it was gonna include 2 1st round picks. Don't know if that's true, but if it is that's crazy.
ya looks like the leafs did give up 2 1sts and a 2nd, not good for rebuilding for sure but I guess Burke believes Kessel is the perfect piece moving forward. Btw, Kessel did sign a 5 year/27 million dollar deal, not bad imo.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:22 PM   #1207 (permalink)
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ya looks like the leafs did give up 2 1sts and a 2nd, not good for rebuilding for sure but I guess Burke believes Kessel is the perfect piece moving forward. Btw, Kessel did sign a 5 year/27 million dollar deal, not bad imo.
In the NHL that's a pretty big contract. But as long as Burke didn't pull a JFJ and give him a no trade claws, then whatever. The only thing that's worrisome is that the leafs have been bad for 4-5yrs now and don't have a "franchise player" type of guy on the horizan and now Burke gives away 3 draft picks?

The leafs have been bad the last several years, but as they often do, they weren't bad enough to land a top 3 pick or two and go forward with some direction. It looks like Burke has come in and is gonna try and build through trade & signings. Slippery slope?
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In the NHL that's a pretty big contract. But as long as Burke didn't pull a JFJ and give him a no trade claws, then whatever. The only thing that's worrisome is that the leafs have been bad for 4-5yrs now and don't have a "franchise player" type of guy on the horizan and now Burke gives away 3 draft picks?
Scheen, Kessel, Tlusty, Kadri, Bozak, Hanson, Stalberg, Stefanovich ...that's a good bench of young forwards who have crazy amounts of potential, and when you look at how the leafs picked up Hanson, Bozak, and Gustavsson for basically nothing, that's like 3 1st round picks right there so we didn't lose much.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:24 AM   #1209 (permalink)
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In the NHL that's a pretty big contract. But as long as Burke didn't pull a JFJ and give him a no trade claws, then whatever. The only thing that's worrisome is that the leafs have been bad for 4-5yrs now and don't have a "franchise player" type of guy on the horizan and now Burke gives away 3 draft picks?

The leafs have been bad the last several years, but as they often do, they weren't bad enough to land a top 3 pick or two and go forward with some direction. It looks like Burke has come in and is gonna try and build through trade & signings. Slippery slope?
For every Crosby and Ovechkin, there is a Zetterberg or Datsyuk.... you don't HAVE to get a #1 pick to build a strong team.

Yes, you would love to have that top pick..... but it works out as a bit of a crap-shoot either way most seasons.

I'm not in love with Kessel the way Burke seems to be..... but I don't think it will hurt us too badly to lose those picks.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:08 AM   #1210 (permalink)
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For every Crosby and Ovechkin, there is a Zetterberg or Datsyuk.... you don't HAVE to get a #1 pick to build a strong team.

Yes, you would love to have that top pick..... but it works out as a bit of a crap-shoot either way most seasons.

I'm not in love with Kessel the way Burke seems to be..... but I don't think it will hurt us too badly to lose those picks.
I agree. But when you're bad for this long and the highest pick you've got was #5 (thanks to moving up in 08), they just seem to not be bad enough to build properly, even though i think Bozak, Hanson, Schenn, Kessel are good players is anyone the next franchise player to build around or are they a bunch of "nice players". My main point is when was the last time they were bad and were able to draft a huge impact guy that was eventually a franchise player.
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I agree. But when you're bad for this long and the highest pick you've got was #5 (thanks to moving up in 08), they just seem to not be bad enough to build properly, even though i think Bozak, Hanson, Schenn, Kessel are good players is anyone the next franchise player to build around or are they a bunch of "nice players". My main point is when was the last time they were bad and were able to draft a huge impact guy that was eventually a franchise player.
And my point is that the problem is not WHERE we have drafted..... it's WHO we have drafted.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:11 PM   #1212 (permalink)
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It's just pre-season.... i know i know.... but the first 3 leafs games have been very entertaining. Win or lose, I hope they keep that up into the regular season.
The Leafs are playing some entertaining pre-season games forsure. Not like the Sens who can't find the back the net. Maybe we'll miss Heatley more than I thought. At least he could put them in the net.

BTW, for the first time in years I'm confident in our goaltending. LeClaire has looked fantastic so far this pre-season.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:24 PM   #1213 (permalink)
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It's a good trade for the Leafs. At one point Kessel was considered a better overal player than Crosby. The kid's only 21 and giving up the draft picks in the long run could either hurt them or prove to be a massive steal. Kessel is a natural scorer and the Leafs really haven't had one in awhile.

As for my Habs, I'm excited by that team right now. Ideally, I'd like one big defenceman back there. A guy who has a nasty streak, but I like the puck movement so far.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:26 PM   #1214 (permalink)
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As for my Habs, I'm excited by that team right now. Ideally, I'd like one big defenceman back there. A guy who has a nasty streak, but I like the puck movement so far.
That's exactly what the Sens need too. We have nothing to brag about on defense this season and I think in the long run it'll prove to be Ottawa's achilles heal.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:34 PM   #1215 (permalink)
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I hope Kessel can still be productive without Marc Savard feeding him daily.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:36 PM   #1216 (permalink)
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Watch Toskala get dealt for more American top-6 players/Players Burke has had on previous teams by the deadline (ie David Bakes or Andy MacDonald for Toskala and a spare forward)

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Watch Toskala get dealt for more American top-6 players/Players Burke has had on previous teams by the deadline (ie David Bakes or Andy MacDonald for Toskala and a spare forward)
Then they wouldn't have a goaltender. Sorry, but the "The Monster" has a heart issue and has never played an NHL game.
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Watch Toskala get dealt for more American top-6 players/Players Burke has had on previous teams by the deadline (ie David Bakes or Andy MacDonald for Toskala and a spare forward)
I could see that happening but like JeffB said, we still don`t know who we have with Gustavsson but if he does play well, we have him as the starter + Joey McDonald is a highly qualified back up. Btw I think andy macdonald would be a great addition to the team, get er done burke
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #1219 (permalink)
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Then they wouldn't have a goaltender. Sorry, but the "The Monster" has a heart issue and has never played an NHL game.
They would have a goaltender - Gustavson. What? You'd let Toskala walk? This is a contract year, bud. Let's face it, he's not going to re-up in the off-season.

The whole "heart" issue is blown out of proportion. In fact, a lot of athletes (notably NHL players) get it done.
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They would have a goaltender - Gustavson. What? You'd let Toskala walk? This is a contract year, bud. Let's face it, he's not going to re-up in the off-season.

The whole "heart" issue is blown out of proportion. In fact, a lot of athletes (notably NHL players) get it done.
I would wait and see. Burke has said for some stupid reason that they wanna win now, so why trade your best goaltender. If he walks in the summer and the so called "Monster" really is a pretty good goaltender (which will be learned through the season) the money can be spent next summer on more offense. Best case scenario i guess would be that the Monster plays well by the deadline and feel confident he's ready to take the reigns full time and trade Toskala.
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