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Old 04-24-2009, 10:23 AM   #841 (permalink)
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I thought there was a luxary tax in NHL as well so teams can go over that. Or is that just in NBA only
Just in the NBA. It's a hard cap in the NHL.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:41 PM   #842 (permalink)
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guys why is the new York rangers coach not sitting with players but up on club level?
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He's suspended one game for getting into it with a fan last game.

Source - Rangers' Tortorella banned one game for altercation with fan
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The problem every year with the Bill Masterton Trophy is that when you read the supporting material for each candidate, you come away thinking he ought to win. Then you read the qualifications of the next candidate and think he ought to win. And so on.

So, the Professional Hockey Writers’ Association has a very difficult annual task in determining the player "who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey."

Once again, three deserving finalists are in the running in 2009, Detroit Red Wings defenseman Chris Chelios, Florida Panthers right winger Richard Zednik and Nashville Predators left winger Steve Sullivan.

They will be on hand for the 2009 NHL Awards, which will be broadcast live from the Pearl Concert Theater inside the Palms Hotel Las Vegas on June 18 on VERSUS in the United States and CBC in Canada. Tickets to the 2009 NHL Awards are on sale at ticketmaster.com/nhlawards and at the Pearl Concert Theater Box Office.

The Masterton Trophy honors the three-time NCAA champion, American national team star and Minnesota North Stars rookie, Bill Masterton, who died Jan. 15, 1968, after sustaining a head injury when he was checked while trying to skate between two Oakland Seals defensemen.

There is no one standard. Over the years, winners have been honored for leadership, career years, accumulated Stanley Cups, returning to the NHL after fighting serious injury or disease, or in Gord Kluzak's case, not returning to play after injury, despite a dedicated attempt.

2009 NHL AWARDS
Ovechkin, Malkin, Datsyuk vie for Hart
John McGourty - NHL.com Staff Writer
Detroit's Pavel Datsyuk, Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Washington's Alex Ovechkin are the finalists for the 2009 Hart trophy. READ MORE ›


2009 NHL AWARDS FINALIST SCHEDULE:

WED, APRIL 22: Calder Trophy (top rookie)
THU, APRIL 23: Norris Trophy (top defenseman)
FRI, APRIL 24: Lady Byng Trophy (sportsmanship)
MON, APRIL 27: Vezina Trophy (top goaltender)
TUE, APRIL 28: Selke Trophy (top defensive forward)
WED, APRIL 29: Hart Memorial Trophy (MVP)
THU, APRIL 30: Masterton Trophy (perseverance)
FRI, MAY 1: Adams Award (Coach of the Year)
MON, MAY 4: NHL Foundation Award (contributions)
2009 NHL AWARDS ARCHIVE ›
This year's nominees all overcame serious injuries to return to the NHL.

Chris Chelios, Detroit Red Wings -- Chelios was extremely excited to return for this season, which made him only the third player, in addition to Gordie Howe and Mark Messier, to play 25 NHL seasons. But he suffered a fractured tibia when he blocked a shot in a Sept. 30 preseason game against his old team, the Montreal Canadiens, and missed the first 28 games of the season.

He played only 28 games after returning Dec. 13 and did not register a point. But Chelios was available for injury replacements and played an important leadership role behind the scenes.

Chelios, 47, is being honored as much for his durability and high level of play over 25 seasons as for his return from injury. His teams have made the playoffs in 24 of his 25 seasons. He is the oldest player in the NHL.

Chelios won three Stanley Cups, with Montreal in 1986 and with Detroit in 2002 and 2008. He played in 11 NHL All-Star Games and won the Norris Trophy in 1989, 1993 and 1996. He was twice runner-up for the Norris. That means he was the NHL's best or second-best defenseman in 20 percent of his seasons.

Chelios has 185 goals and 763 assists in 1,644 NHL games. He is plus-352 in his career and had only three negative seasons. Afraid of no one, he has logged 2,891 penalty minutes. He has scored 69 power-play goals, 13 short-handed goals and 31 game-winners.

Chelios has been a superior Stanley Cup Playoffs performer with 31 goals and 113 assists in 260 games.

Chelios ranks fourth all-time in games played and is the leader among defensemen, Americans and active players. He is the only player in NHL history to play more than 400 games with three different teams, Montreal, Chicago and Detroit. He set the NHL record by playing in his 880th victory on Jan. 6 and extended that mark to 894 wins.

Steve Sullivan, Nashville Predators -- Sullivan played his first game this past season on Jan. 10, 687 days after he fragmented a spinal disc in a game against the Canadiens. He missed 142 games while he underwent two back surgeries and extensive rehabilitation. Sullivan's ability to resume his career was in serious doubt.

But he made it back and played in every game the rest of the season, except the game after his first game back. Sullivan had 11 goals and 21 assists in 41 games, a 0.78 points-per-game that was just slightly lower than his 0.8 points-per-game career average.

He was plus-2, had two game-winning goals and three power-play goals. Sullivan either scored or assisted on 11 goals that gave his team the lead and three goals that tied games. He beat the Los Angeles Kings with an overtime goal on March 28.

Sullivan showed that he was sound and the team believed him. He averaged 18:29 minutes per game, fourth-highest among Nashville forwards. But he played more than 25 minutes in three of the last four games as Nashville battled bitterly to the end in a futile bid for a playoff berth.

Sullivan was the 233rd pick in the 1994 NHL Entry Draft. He struggled to escape the minors during three seasons as a New jersey Devils' prospect, was traded to Toronto, played three seasons there and was dealt to Chicago. He was in his fifth season with the Blackhawks when they traded him to Nashville.

Sullivan has 239 goals and 370 assists in 764 games over 12 NHL seasons. He is plus-102 for his career.

Undersized, except in his heart and brain, at 5-foot-9 and 173 pounds, Sullivan was already a role model for perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey.

Richard Zednik, Florida Panthers -- There have been few more frightening sights in NHL history than Zednik having his carotid artery nearly severed by teammate Olli Jokinen's skate on Feb. 28, 2008 in a game against the Sabres in Buffalo. Jokinen tripped over a rival player and his foot went high in the air, catching the unsuspecting Zednik in the throat.

Zednik kept his wits about him and quickly skated to his bench, where assistant trainer David Zenobi clamped a towel on his throat and teammate Jassen Cullimore helped carry him to the dressing room. Buffalo team doctor Les Bisson attended Zednik there and he was taken to Buffalo General Hospital where vascular surgeon Richard Curl and attending surgeon Sonya Noor repaired the wound.

By the time surgery started, Zednik had lost about five pints of blood and had gone into shock, with a high pulse and low-blood pressure. Doctors weren't far from losing him and said after surgery that it was a miracle that Jokinen's sharp skate blade hadn't also cut his jugular vein.

The team response was great. Assistant General Manager Randy Sexton accompanied Zednik to the hospital and Karen Cohen, wife of Alan Cohen, the Panthers' general partner, chairman of the board and CEO, flew from Florida to Buffalo with Zednik's wife, Jessica, on a chartered flight.

The hockey community went to bed that night not knowing Zednik's fate and breathed a sigh of relief the following morning when reports said Zednik was resting in stable condition and able to talk. He remembered the incident clearly.

Zednik had been badly injured earlier in the 2002 Stanley Cup Playoffs when he caught an elbow in the face from an off-balance Kyle McLaren and suffered a concussion, broken nose, bruised throat and cut eyelid. He was carried unconscious from the ice and spent the night in intensive care. He came back to have a career year the next season, scoring 31 goals and adding 19 assists.

He came back this season to score 17 goals and add 16 assists while going plus-2. Zednik has 200 goals and 179 assists for 379 points in 745 games.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:55 PM   #846 (permalink)
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Just in the NBA. It's a hard cap in the NHL.

MLB has a luxury tax as well
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:27 AM   #847 (permalink)
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I'm loving this whole Jim Balsillie/Gary Bettman malarkey. Jim's attempting, yet again, to buy and relocate a team to Southern Ontario. I'm all for it. I hate Bettman and his stubbornness, trying to shove teams into US markets that can't support them, all the while neglecting the best market. Considering I'm finished with the Leafs, and if this whole thing happens, the new, Southern Ontario team will be my team.

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The first thing to understand is that Jim Balsillie is a rather clever guy.

Of course, you may have suspected that, given his success in other areas of life.

But in his previous attempts to buy an NHL franchise and move it to Hamilton, he was painted by the league's hierarchy as a bit of a rube, as a guy who just didn't understand how the business worked, who didn't pay the proper respect to the proper people, who was a touch thick when it came to understanding who was boss.

So they rebuffed him, they outmanoeuvred him, they denied him what he wanted, and for a long time, Balsillie went quiet, as though he'd taken his ball and gone home.

A big mistake, though, if anyone mistook silence for inaction.

He is back now with a vengeance, having chosen his moment, having waited for his opportunity, having followed a learning curve.

When he first tried to buy a hockey club, the Pittsburgh Penguins, Balsillie played by the rules. He made an offer for a franchise that was desperately trying to leverage public funds for a new arena, had his bid accepted, and the commissioner, Gary Bettman, gave the deal his blessing.

Balsillie said that he would have been happy to keep the team in Pittsburgh, should the arena deal be consummated. That may indeed have been true. It was and is a good hockey town, and the Pens were becoming a very good team. But he wasn't willing to make that commitment unconditionally, and when Bettman intervened at the 11th hour, trying to insert clauses into the purchase agreement that would have bound the franchise to Pittsburgh, new rink or no new rink, Balsillie walked away.

Lesson one: it doesn't make sense to play by the rules if the rules can arbitrarily be changed.

Then Balsillie moved on to Nashville, where he completed a deal with Craig Leipold to buy the floundering Predators, offering far more than market value for the franchise. At the same time, he began accepting deposits on season's tickets in Hamilton: one of the NHL's requirements when it came to relocation was being able to demonstrate that the new market was viable.

Bettman countered with one of his greatest feats of prestidigitation, convincing Leipold to take far less dough from local buyers, then (perhaps coincidentally) finding a soft, lucrative spot for him to land as the new owner of the Minnesota Wild. Meanwhile, the NHL propaganda machine worked to portray Balsillie as a loose cannon which a large segment of the hockey press reprinted as gospel.

Lesson two: Bettman is not to be underestimated, and making a deal with an owner who has other options leaves a door open. Plus, it might make sense to get to know a few of those other governors personally, discreetly, so as to not be so easily demonized.

So here we are with an owner who has no other options, in a league fighting multiple fires, with a process that is now in the hands of the courts. A more-than-fair offer is on the table, one that will help prop up franchise values, will solve a huge problem, will save millions in bailout money and will instantly transform a have-not franchise into a have.

Think maybe Jim Balsillie has talked to some of those other owners over the past few months? Think maybe they've come to understand he's not the bogeyman, that he might be the best and only alternative right now?

And when the commissioner calls them to the barricades for what would be a protracted, expensive legal battle to keep Balsillie out of the league and to keep him from moving the club (he certainly meets all of the criteria they've laid out in their bylaws), think they're ready to follow him blindly into battle one more time?

He won the lockout and look at what that fine, fail-safe labour agreement delivered. He beat back Balsillie twice, and how did that fix anything? He said not so long ago that Phoenix would be just fine. How did that work out?

By all accounts, the commissioner was apoplectic last night. It seems he may have good reason.

In chess, it's called being put in "check."

Bettman has already proved himself a grandmaster of the game. But even the best of them eventually meet their match.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:38 AM   #848 (permalink)
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The reason why i stopped following hockey all that closely was because i got fed up with the poor direction the NHL was headed towards. now i watch it very very casually at best. Bettman truly has ruined the NHL. that's honestly how i feel and that's why they have lost me as a fan.

This would be a step in the right direction.

and good on Ballsillie for sticking to his guns. I hope he gets to do what he wants. The fucking SPORT of hockey deserves it.

we'll see what happens.
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Bettman's a joke. Some of these southern experiments are over (Nashville, Atlanta, Phoenix...). I say re-locate one team to Southern Ontario, one to Seattle, and perhaps one to Portland, Oregon. Portland and Seattle are natural rivals with Vancouver and would be with San Jose, Anaheim, the Kings.. In terms of Seattle, they would totally support them, and would be the only game in town (aside from U of W ball) in the winter. I think they'd draw. But no, Bettman is going down with these slumping franchises.
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BTW I like the idea of moving another team to Ontario. Three way rivalry
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Bettman's a joke. Some of these southern experiments are over (Nashville, Atlanta, Phoenix...). I say re-locate one team to Southern Ontario, one to Seattle, and perhaps one to Portland, Oregon. Portland and Seattle are natural rivals with Vancouver and would be with San Jose, Anaheim, the Kings.. In terms of Seattle, they would totally support them, and would be the only game in town (aside from U of W ball) in the winter. I think they'd draw. But no, Bettman is going down with these slumping franchises.
There are 7-10 teams in the U.S that are struggling financially.

Tampa/Florida/Atlanta/Carolina/Islanders/Pheonix/Nashville/Colombus

Hockey in most parts of the U.S just simply doesn't do well, most markets south of the border put hockey 6-7th on the sports meter behind Nascar, Tennis and Golf. Bringing one of those teams to Canada only makes sense. To be honest, they should have another team in Ontario, Quebec, Winnipeg.
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There are 7-10 teams in the U.S that are struggling financially.

Tampa/Florida/Atlanta/Carolina/Islanders/Pheonix/Nashville/Colombus

Hockey in most parts of the U.S just simply doesn't do well, most markets south of the border put hockey 6-7th on the sports meter behind Nascar, Tennis and Golf. Bringing one of those teams to Canada only makes sense. To be honest, they should have another team in Ontario, Quebec, Winnipeg.
I think Columbus is a good hockey city
they've just never had a good team

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Bettman's a joke. Some of these southern experiments are over (Nashville, Atlanta, Phoenix...). I say re-locate one team to Southern Ontario, one to Seattle, and perhaps one to Portland, Oregon. Portland and Seattle are natural rivals with Vancouver and would be with San Jose, Anaheim, the Kings.. In terms of Seattle, they would totally support them, and would be the only game in town (aside from U of W ball) in the winter. I think they'd draw. But no, Bettman is going down with these slumping franchises.
totally agree.... plus i'd move the islanders to KC. boom.
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BTW I like the idea of moving another team to Ontario. Three way rivalry
3 way rivalry? i'm afraid the ottawa whateveryoucallthem's are irrelevant...

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thought i might get a rise out of you doc... you can always count on big-city envy from the back-country!

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NHL acting like 'illegal cartel,' Coyotes owner charges

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TORONTO and PHOENIX — The group backing Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie's bid for the Phoenix Coyotes unleashed its sharpest attack yet on the National Hockey League, alleging in a lawsuit that the league is operating like an “illegal cartel” by blocking Mr. Balsillie's effort to move the Coyotes to Hamilton.

“The NHL is excluding competition and restraining trade in [the United States and Canada] through the application of unreasonable restrictions in its constitution and bylaws, which are preventing the relocation of the Coyotes from Phoenix, Ariz., to Hamilton, Ont.,” said the lawsuit filed Thursday in Phoenix.

The suit also takes aim at Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, which owns the Toronto Maple Leafs, alleging it has colluded with the league for years to preserve “market power” in the Greater Toronto Area. Prohibiting relocation deprives hockey fans of “increased competition, lower prices, higher quality and more variety,” the suit alleged.

MLSE officials declined comment but have insisted privately that whatever losses the league has incurred from the Coyotes pale compared to the revenue that would be lost from another team in the Toronto area.
Stupid clowns KNOW that a huge chunk of their frustrated fanbase would up and leave as soon as another team landed here. I'm a Leafs fan and I hate them, I really do. I ain't the only one.
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