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Old 02-13-2015, 08:09 AM   #7681 (permalink)
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so canadiens lose to hurricanes, saabres, and oilers recently...TO gonna have an offensive explosion
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:08 PM   #7682 (permalink)
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Leafs traded Santo and Franson to Nashville for a first, some prospect, and Olli Jokinen.

Good trade for the leafs getting a 1st imo.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:27 PM   #7683 (permalink)
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Leafs traded Santo and Franson to Nashville for a first, some prospect, and Olli Jokinen.

Good trade for the leafs getting a 1st imo.
it's officially begun ...the For Sale sign is up
good trade...and they'll move Jokinen as well

only guys i would keep are Rielly, JVR, Bernier, Gardiner and Holland...everyone else needs to be dealt for picks and youth moving forward

Phaneuf and Kessel might go before the deadline...if not, they'll be gone this summer once the new cap is in

the thing i'm looking for moving forward is size and speed up the middle
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:37 PM   #7684 (permalink)
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it's officially begun ...the For Sale sign is up
good trade...and they'll move Jokinen as well

only guys i would keep are Rielly, JVR, Bernier, Gardiner and Holland...everyone else needs to be dealt for picks and youth moving forward

Phaneuf and Kessel might go before the deadline...if not, they'll be gone this summer once the new cap is in

the thing i'm looking for moving forward is size and speed up the middle
Agreed. I think Phaneuf and Kessel will be moved in the summer. I'd actually look to trade Gardiner but he does still have some promise.

I would like to hang onto Panik. He's a good bottom-six guy to keep around for some size and a bit of scoring during a rebuild. He has some snarl to him that I like.
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Agreed. I think Phaneuf and Kessel will be moved in the summer. I'd actually look to trade Gardiner but he does still have some promise.

I would like to hang onto Panik. He's a good bottom-six guy to keep around for some size and a bit of scoring during a rebuild. He has some snarl to him that I like.
i think with a complete rebuild you have to be patient with Gardiner...but ya, if they get a really good offer for him then you go for it cause he's essentially the same player as Rielly
Panik is interesting...don't know what his contract is but his age (24) fits with a rebuild
Clarkson is the white elephant in the room...you'll never be able to move him...but then i thought the same with the Bargnani situation...so you never know
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:26 PM   #7686 (permalink)
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Even if they are going to lose for a couple of years, you'd hope they get a couple of culture changing leaders to weed out some of the poison these young guys have been fed.....guys who know they are in Toronto for that reason and want to be here. I think Leiweke tempered his quote about character issues for P.R. reasons but he probably saw and heard more than he was admitting.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:01 PM   #7687 (permalink)
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I'm just hoping we can lose the rest of our games to get a top 5 pick at least. Right now were sitting with the 5th worst record points wise, tied with w other teams that have more games at hand. If we can get into the top 3 worst teams we have an outside shot at McDavid/Eichel, no?
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:48 PM   #7688 (permalink)
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I think the lottery is for all non-playoff teams, just weighted as highest probablility to lowest finishing teams. But you can't move down by more than one spot.

Why do I keep thinking that Edmonton's luck, sitting in 2nd last is that they did not tank hard enough and one of the teams 3rd last on up wins the top pick and they miss out on both Eichel ad McDavid with 3rd pick. You really, really want to be worst team because then you can't fall past #2 pick.

At least maybe they would finally pick the stud defenseman they have needed.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:58 PM   #7689 (permalink)
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it's officially begun ...the For Sale sign is up
good trade...and they'll move Jokinen as well

only guys i would keep are Rielly, JVR, Bernier, Gardiner and Holland...everyone else needs to be dealt for picks and youth moving forward

Phaneuf and Kessel might go before the deadline...if not, they'll be gone this summer once the new cap is in

the thing i'm looking for moving forward is size and speed up the middle
No Kadri?
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:33 PM   #7690 (permalink)
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No Kadri?
nope...too small
same reason for Bozak

good hockey players...but if you're rebuilding you might as well get what you can for them and start with a clean slate
as i said before...this club needs to focus on getting bigger/stronger/faster up the middle

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Old 02-15-2015, 05:39 PM   #7691 (permalink)
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I would move Bozak in a heartbeat.

I would move Kadri for the right deal but I wouldn't be in a rush to do so. Nylander looks like a way better skating Kadri anyways, but I'm not sure if Nylander is gonna play C.
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I would move Bozak in a heartbeat.

I would move Kadri for the right deal but I wouldn't be in a rush to do so. Nylander looks like a way better skating Kadri anyways, but I'm not sure if Nylander is gonna play C.
i love Nylander's skill set but there's no way he survives at center in the NHL...at 174 lbs (soaking wet), he'll get killed
i'd be grooming him as a winger

edit...and get him on a serious conditioning program...he'll need at least another 15 lbs to be successful at this level
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i love Nylander's skill set but there's no way he survives at center in the NHL...at 174 lbs (soaking wet), he'll get killed
i'd be grooming him as a winger

edit...and get him on a serious conditioning program...he'll need at least another 15 lbs to be successful at this level
Yeah you're right. He has to be a Kane type player. The only smallish C that can be considered elite is Giroux and he's an exception.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:41 PM   #7695 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:23 PM   #7697 (permalink)
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Holy crap...Leafs managed to trade Clarkson to the Jackets for Horton

No idea what they're going to do with Horton...hasn't played all year because of a back injury

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Old 02-26-2015, 06:51 PM   #7698 (permalink)
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From what I understand, Horton's back is so bad, there's a very good chance he'll never play again.
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From what I understand, Horton's back is so bad, there's a very good chance he'll never play again.
Thats what everyone is saying
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Put him on LTIR and he doesn't count against the cap. I guess is the motive here.
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